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Title: clabbie/clabby
Post by: lyndsey86 on Tuesday 15 April 25 17:25 BST (UK)
Hi,
I am trying to find information on Nora Barbara Clabby/Clabbie she married Arthur John Grose/Grove, 23/5/1933, York, Toronto. Nora was born 1906, in Edinburgh, Scotland.

Ann
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: AlanBoyd on Tuesday 15 April 25 17:55 BST (UK)
seen at A***y
Canada Voters List 1958
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
District: Spadina
no. 4 Vermont Avenue
Grose, Arthur, maintenance
Grose, Nora
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: crisane on Tuesday 15 April 25 21:12 BST (UK)
First name(s) Nora
Last name Clabby
Sex Female
Age 23
Birth year 1906
Occupation Domestic
5, Albert Street Edinburgh
Origin country Scotland
Year 1929
Departure year 1929
Ship departure port Greenock
Departure country Scotland
Destination country Canada
Arrival port QUEBEC
Source dataset Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: crisane on Tuesday 15 April 25 21:33 BST (UK)
There is a tree on ancestry has her father as James Clabby and who's WW1 service record records him as James Tully alias James Clabby which may be the reason I can't find a birth record on ScotlandsPeople for a Nora Clabby born 1906. There is a birth registration for a Norah Tully but it is 1904 Dennistoun.
The tree says Nora's mother is a Mary Ann McCrae. This information is on Nora's marriage record to Grose.
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 07:44 BST (UK)
There is a tree on ancestry has her father as James Clabby and who's WW1 service record records him as James Tully alias James Clabby which may be the reason I can't find a birth record on ScotlandsPeople for a Nora Clabby born 1906. There is a birth registration for a Norah Tully but it is 1904 Dennistoun.
The tree says Nora's mother is a Mary Ann McCrae. This information is on Nora's marriage record to Grose.


Scotlandspeople
Maria Barbara Clabbie
1906 Newington
Mothers maiden name Mcrae

Rosie

Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 16 April 25 07:56 BST (UK)
There is another post re this lady

SS
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 16 April 25 08:13 BST (UK)
As SS says: check the thread below before researching her back story; this thread is concerned with her history after moving to Canada.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890845.msg7647699#msg7647699 (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890845.msg7647699#msg7647699)
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 08:31 BST (UK)
As SS says: check the thread below before researching her back story; this thread is concerned with her history after moving to Canada.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890845.msg7647699#msg7647699 (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890845.msg7647699#msg7647699)

Her birth date matches with this out going passenger list
Nora Grose birth date 4/11/1906 (married )
Address came from 156 Dundee Street Edinburgh
Departure 29 July 1955 Scotland
Destination Montreal

Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 16 April 25 10:04 BST (UK)

Her birth date matches with this out going passenger list
Nora Grose birth date 4/11/1906 (married )
Address came from 156 Dundee Street Edinburgh
Departure 29 July 1955 Scotland
Destination Montreal

Rosie

16 June 1956: Edinburgh Evening News
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 16 April 25 10:19 BST (UK)
Scotland's People Valuation rolls, 1940
Douglas H Clabby 156 Dundee Street
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 16 April 25 10:22 BST (UK)
from the other thread, 1st post
Quote
I do have a Nora Barbara Clabbie her parents were Douglas H Clabbie and Mary Hogg both deceased. She was married 1955.

It seems that Nora Grose had returned to Scotland in 1955 for the wedding of her niece and namesake.
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 10:28 BST (UK)
from the other thread, 1st post
Quote
I do have a Nora Barbara Clabbie her parents were Douglas H Clabbie and Mary Hogg both deceased. She was married 1955.

It seems that Nora Grose had returned to Scotland in 1955 for the wedding of her niece and namesake.

Yes I thought that also
There is a possibility this is Nora 1968
Nora Grose houskeeper no sign of her husband
Westmoreland Avene Toronto

Rosie
 
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 16 April 25 10:46 BST (UK)
156 Dundee Street (Fountainbridge)

Here is a map view from the 1:1250 OS map ~1948, with an underlay of a modern map: move the slider at the bottom left to reveal the modern map. The buildings are numbered, so you can see where no. 156 was.

Much of the N side of Dundee Street has been redeveloped, with this stretch being occupied by a modern office building called OneSixty.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.8&lat=55.94019&lon=-3.22015&layers=170&b=osm&o=100 (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.8&lat=55.94019&lon=-3.22015&layers=170&b=osm&o=100)
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:02 BST (UK)
Here is her arrival transcribed as Bora Grove  ??? but image says 
Nora Grose married housewife age 48
Date of birth 4/11/1906

Arrival date 1 July 1955 Glasgow
Going to 156 Dundee Street Edinburgh

Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: lyndsey86 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:22 BST (UK)
Hi,
Thanks for all the information, very interesting what you all have found. I can't seem to view the Memorian regarding Douglas Henry  Clabby and James Clabby. Would it be possible to have it sent again.

Ann
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:30 BST (UK)
Hi,
Thanks for all the information, very interesting what you all have found. I can't seem to view the Memorian regarding Douglas Henry  Clabby and James Clabby. Would it be possible to have it sent again.

Ann

Click on the link Alanboyd sent on reply 6

Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: lyndsey86 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:33 BST (UK)
Thank you.
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:34 BST (UK)
I don't have access to newspapers.com
Could be a possible record in the Toronto Star 7th January 1991
Grose Nora Barbara obituary died 5 th January 1991

Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: lyndsey86 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:36 BST (UK)
Wow, thanks.
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:45 BST (UK)
Also death  for her husband Arthur John Grose Toronto Star 6th December 1962
Of Cornwall husband of Clabby that's all I can view

Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: lyndsey86 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:46 BST (UK)
Thanks.
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 April 25 11:52 BST (UK)
Thanks.

Maybe someone will have access and be able to help  :)


Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: lyndsey86 on Sunday 20 April 25 13:31 BST (UK)
I have found from a relative in Canada the cemetery where Arthur and Nora are buried, it is Riverside Cemetery and Crematorium.

GROSE
In loving memory of Arthur J Grose dob 6/7/1903 died 6/12/1962 beloved husband of Nora Clabby, dob 4/11/1906 died 5/1/1991.

The relative is going to the library and look further into this family.

Thank you for the addition information.

Ann
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 20 April 25 14:59 BST (UK)
Great News Ann  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 01 May 25 15:59 BST (UK)
I don't have access to newspapers.com
Could be a possible record in the Toronto Star 7th January 1991
Grose Nora Barbara obituary died 5 th January 1991

Rosie

Good find Rosie.

Here is a copy just in case the relative hasn't been to the library yet.

The Toronto Star
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Mon, 7 Jan 1991
Page 32

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-toronto-star/171472810/

Sandra



Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 01 May 25 16:00 BST (UK)
Also death  for her husband Arthur John Grose Toronto Star 6th December 1962
Of Cornwall husband of Clabby that's all I can view

Rosie

Well Done Rosie

The Toronto Star
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Fri, 7 Dec 1962
Page 29

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-toronto-star/171472947/

Sandra
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 01 May 25 16:17 BST (UK)
Well done Sandra was wondering where you were  ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 01 May 25 16:25 BST (UK)


Still alive Rosie, a few near misses but I soldier on.  :)

Hope all is well with you and yours.   :)

Regards
Sandra
Title: Re: clabbie/clabby
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 01 May 25 18:13 BST (UK)
Glad to hear that Sandra both well here also  ;)

Rosie