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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Greaves on Wednesday 23 April 25 15:17 BST (UK)
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The above, distant relative of mine, was born on 04 May 1820 in Pancras, London to John DEARLOVE, a shoemaker, and his wife, Harriet.
By 1841, he was living aged 20, with his parents in Edmonton, North London. 0n 23 May 1842 he married a local girl named Esther DANIELS at All Saints Church in Edmonton. The couple had one child together, John William BEARLOVE,
In March 1844, he fell foul of the law, being convicted at the Central Criminal Court of stealing a gelding worth £7 and was sentenced to deportation for 10 years to Tasmania.
He arrived in Tasmania in July 1844. He was granted a ticket-to-leave in May 1851 and recommended for a conditional pardon in Jun 1852.
In October 1852, he was granted permission to marry a female convict named Mary EVANS by the Lieutenant Governor. This permission was quiclkly over-turned, when the Bishop of Tasmania reported that his wife was still alive in England.
In the British 1851 and 1861ccensuses, his wife Esther declared her status as married. In both censuses, she was living with William DAY, whom she later married.
in June 1853, John James Dearlove was granted a conditional pardon. I have no idea what happened to him after his pardon. Ideally I would like to know where he settled, whether he remarried and when and where he died.
I suspect that some of the Australian contributors will have far better knowledge and access than I to the relevant records. I think I have exhausted my sources.
In June 1863 his wife, Esther, married a William DAY, in West Hackney, declaring herself a widow.
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In both censuses, she was living with William DAY, whom she later married.
As a widow?
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No, not as a widow. As I said in my post, as a married woman, presumably to Dearlover as she didn't marry DAY until 1863.
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Sorry I meant on the marriage certificate to Mr Day.
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Widow on certificate.
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Hi,
I haven't had any luck in Australia or New Zealand. Having been refused permission to marry, is there any chance he might have gone back to England? I found this death registered Hackney, not that far from where his family lived in Edmonton:
Name John Dearlove
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place Hackney, London, United Kingdom
Death Date Jun. 1860
Inferred Death Place London, United Kingdom
Volume 1b
Page 219
If he did die in 1860, it could explain why his wife was free to re-marry in 1863.
Christine
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In order to leave Australia and return to England, he would need to hold a Certificate of Freedom.
The records at this stage only show he had a Conditional Pardon, the condition being h may not leave the colonies.
Is there any evidence of DEARLOVE's ongoing relationship with Maria EVANS?
Sue
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Name John Dearlove
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place Hackney, London, United Kingdom
Death Date Jun. 1860
Inferred Death Place London, United Kingdom
Volume 1b
Page 219
This John DEARLOVE was reported to be 47 years old (GRO) so probably not your man
It would be unlikely that he was refused permission to marry only because his wife was alive in UK.
The laws associated with a 7 year transportation sentence would mean both could remarry.
However any initial problem was rectified in October 1852
TROVE newspaper search has reported that the sanction was lifted in October 1852 so John & Mary were free to marry. Note that he only had Ticket of Leave in 1852.
Did they marry?
CONVICT DEPARTMENT.
Comptroller-General's Office, 11th October, 1852.
The Lieutenant-Governor has been pleased to withdraw his sanction to the marriage
of the under-mentioned persons ;—
John Dearlove. T. L„ "Maria Somes" and Mary Evans, "Anna Maria",
both residing in the Hobart District.
J.S. HAMPTON, Comptroller-General
Was Mary Evans of the "Anna Maria" the same lady as Maria Evans of the "Duke of Cornwall"?
EDIT: Amended to add extra info
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Mary EVANS of the "Anna Maria" married William BRADBURY free.
Marriage was confirmed May 1853
Sue
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Interesting to note that the page from Tasmania, Australia, Convict Court and Selected Records, 1800-1899; Registers of conditional pardons issued, 1853-1856 which lists his name as having been awarded the conditional pardon, has his ship listed but no other information next to his name. Most other entries on that page show two dates and a town/village name (which I would assume is their residence) for each person.
This makes me wonder whether his whereabouts were unknown to the authorities - and a possible change of name, perhaps?
There are mentions of him on the Tasmania Names Index.
The Marriage permission request is dated 13 September, 1852, and ,as you already know is for marriage to Mary Evans (ship: D(uke) of Cornwall - most convict records include the name of the transport ship as a further means of identification)
There are also Convict records for him (not always easy to find the dates these are made)
The appropriation record shows him deployed to Maria Island for fifteen months -probably at his arrival in 1844
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON27-1-10/CON27-1-10P212
Conduct Record has a number of entries, including a description of him and some mentions of misdemeanors such as stealing a sack of potatoes, being absent without leave etc. He was sent to Port Arthur, a notorious prison at one stage. I'll leave you to read!
One note states that he was not to reside in the Hobart area (1852 but a later note a few months later suggests that he may reside in the Hobart area!
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON33-1-57/CON33-1-57p52
Other than the granting of the Conditional Pardon I'm not seeing any records for him later than 1853.
Judith
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TROVE has an account of him and the potato stealing:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/65980065/6255664
The Cornwall Chronicle, Sat 25 Sept 1847
Page 3, Headed LONGFORD. (in north of Tasmania)
John Dearlove, passholder in the service of C. Arthur, Esq , and Edward Blount, free, were brought up on a charge of stealing a bag of potatoes, the property of Mr. Arthur, and were remanded until Thursday for examination.
There's quite a detailed account of the trial here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/65980698
The Cornwall Chronicle, Sat 9 Oct 1847
SUPREME COURT—(CRIMINAL SITTINGS.)
Judith
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It would be unlikely that he was refused permission to marry only because his wife was alive in UK.
The laws associated with a 7 year transportation sentence would mean both could remarry.
However any initial problem was rectified in October 1852
TROVE newspaper search has reported that the sanction was lifted in October 1852 so John & Mary were free to marry. Note that he only had Ticket of Leave in 1852.
Did they marry?
It is actually part of his convict record.
Certification from the Bishop of Tasmania.
Sue
ADDING Oddly, it does not quite say that this fact prohibits a marriage.
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Note dated 5 Sept 1851 on John Dearlove’s convict record
“In the event of this man petitioning to be married the Bishop of Tasmania certifies that his wife is still alive in England”
The marriage between Dearlove and Evans was approved.
9 Oct 1852
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062770?searchTerm=%22John%20Dearlove%22
Then 13 Oct 1852 the Marriage permission was withdrawn
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062789?searchTerm=%22John%20Dearlove%22
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Many thanks for everything documented so far. I think it is clear that John James DEARLOVE did not return to England, at least he was not the John DEARLOVE who died in Hackney in 1860.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the name of the woman he proposed to marry: Mary EGAN, Mary EVANS or Maria EVANS. Also about the convict ship she arrived on: Duke of Cornwall or Anna Maria.
I am not sure of her correct name or the name of the ship she arrived on. I have been told - though have been unable to verify - that Mary EGAN of the Duke of Cornwall died on 11 Sep 1852 at Oatlands.
I am confused as to whether DEARLOVE and EVANS married. Or did she marry someone else?
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about the name of the woman he proposed to marry: Mary EGAN, Mary EVANS or Maria EVANS. Also about the convict ship she arrived on: Duke of Cornwall or Anna Maria.
I am not sure of her correct name or the name of the ship she arrived on. I have been told - though have been unable to verify - that Mary EGAN of the Duke of Cornwall died on 11 Sep 1852 at Oatlands.
I am confused as to whether DEARLOVE and EVANS married. Or did she marry someone else?
No reason for confusion. Mary Evans is quire clearly written on all documents relating to the marriage which did not take place. She came per “Anna Maria”.
Her convict record records that she married William Bradbury in 1853, detail already posted above.
Mary Eagan of the “ Duke of Cornwall” died 11 Sept 1852nat Oatlands. There was an inquest.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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Not all documents re Mary Evans give her ship as Anna Maria.
https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=dearlove&qf=NI_NAME_FACET%09Name%09Dearlove%2C+John%09Dearlove%2C
The image shown on the Tasmanian Names index of Marriage Permissions shows her as
'Maria Evans, D of Cornwall' There are two notations on this index - 15/9/52 and 23/9/52 and an illegible comment. Some entries for others show a date/place of marriage but not this one.
Seems to me that the information given on this document may be incorrect, as there "Maria Evans" is not shown on the convict list for the Duke of Cornwall; however...... Seems that there is no record of an actual marriage taking place - or have I missed it?
(Thank goodness John had an easily-searched name; searching for Mary Evans is not so much fun! ;D)
Judith
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and it doesn't help when the transcription of the above record (link provided prev) shows:
Name: Dearlove, John
Record Type: Marriage Permissions
Ship/free: Maria Somes
Marriage to: Egan, Mary
Ship/free: Duke of Cornwall
Permission date:13 Sep 1852
Index number: 18178
Record ID: NAME_INDEXES:1246054
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Is that an Ancestry transcription? There is no transcription with the image from the Tasmanian source, which as shown gives the female name as Maria Evans and I cannot see any further suitable records for a Maria Evans. The nearest name on the list for the ship Duke of Cornwall is Mary E(a)gen and then there's the Mary Evans who arrived on the Anna Maria who has some records and then and seems to have married William BRADBURY in May 1853.
I feel that the marriage with John Dearlove, whoever the woman is, didn't take place.
Judith
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Hi.
Maybe Buttons is referring to this error on the Tasmanian Source.
The index shows her name Mary EGAN.
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qf=NI_INDEX%09Record+type%09Marriage+Permissions%09Marriage+Permissions&qu=john&qu=dearlove
But upon opening the digitised record we see- Clearly EVANS
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Thanks, Sue. No wonder I couldn't find "Mary Evans" if it's indexed under "Egan" !
Can anyone figure out what the illegible notation is on that permissions record? Proabably no help anyway!
Judith
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As mentioned by Neale in Reply#14, one Mary/Maria EGAN/EAGAN who arrived per Duke of Cornwall died 11 Sept 1852.
Here is a link with a bit more information about her.
https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/eagan/mary/146093
Sue
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Anyhow, as stated DEARLOVE did not marry either woman.
Mary EVANS was, after her marriage to BRADBURY, recommended for Absolute Pardon in 1855 and it was approved 6/9/1856.
All not much help in what became of John DEARLOVE ::)
Sue
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Yes, it's a mystery what became of him and I don't think it is possible to know. I've searched for deaths under Dearlove without any success and the closest one I could find is the following:
Name John James
Death Age 79
Birth Date abt 1819
Death Date 17 Jan. 1898
Death Place Hobart, Tasmania
Registration Date 1898
Registration Place Hobart, Australia
Registration Number 115
This man was buried in a pauper's grave in the Cornelian Bay cemetery in Hobart. The 19th century Tasmanian death certificates are very sparse with no parents named and only perhaps place of birth. Being a pauper, the informant probably wouldn't have known anyway.
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The most likely scenario is that once he had his conditional pardon, he headed off to the gold fields. Many convicts took this route, and many changed their names.
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I always figured that finding any information about John James was a bot of a long shot, but thought it worth seeking the expertise of some of the inhabitants of this board.
I have had similar failure with another transported relative, namely Charles GAME (b 1802) and transported in 1835 on board the Norfolk.
Finding the demise of both the above is unlikely, but one has to try.
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Charles Game per Norfolk
Ticket of Leave 1839
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8747959?searchTerm=%E2%80%9CCharles%2520Game%E2%80%9D%2520AND%2520Norfolk
Cert. of Freedom 1841
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2955712?searchTerm=%E2%80%9CCharles%2520Game%E2%80%9D%2520AND%2520Norfolk
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Many thanks for these. I found these records the last time I looked a few years ago, but was unable to find what happened after.
I have experienced considerable difficulties in tracing ex-convicts once their sentences have expired. In fact, I a zero percentage success rate!