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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: Lesanne on Sunday 23 October 05 20:24 BST (UK)
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The face at the window is the Grandmother of these children.
It is the only record of her I have.
Would it be possible to isolate, and make her clearer.
Many thanks, Lesanne.
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I think this is the bit Lesanne wanted!
http://static.flickr.com/33/55332995_f4dd648b4c_o.jpg
Annie
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Hi Annie, How ya doing?
I don't know how to make the image "sharper"
at the same time lose the pot infront of her.
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Hi Lesanne!
Don't ask me about doing this stuff!
I just cropped the picture!!...
You know me better than that :P :P :P :P
Annie
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Hi Lesanne & Annie,
Can you rescan the
window pane with the face at a far greater resolution.
The small picture is only 12k in size & also cuts off some of
the hair etc.
In aniticipation.
Tomkin.
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Grief !! ;D I just love your "in anticipation".
As you can tell, Annie and I need it in step by step bits... ;D ;D
Just see Berlin Bob's posts 8)
I think he gave up with me. :-\ :-[
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Hi Lesanne & Annie,
This is what I mean.
Tomkin
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Sorry Tomkin!
I had to walk away from the computer 'cos I was laughing so hard!
Lesanne and I are the "dipsey twins" when it comes to technical stuff!! ::)
and I don't have a scanner!
OK! so tell us what you want!
Annie
EDIT did you already do it?
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That's clever. Is that sort of a mirror image.
I suppose her lefthand side of the face is in the shade.
Thanks for trying Tomkin, it is quite difficult to know what to achieve
if there's nothing else to go by.
:D :D
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Hi all,
What tomkin means is can you scan the photo again, but only that little bit?
If you do a preview scan (most scanners do this) then you can see the photo on screen, and with a selection tool, you can draw a box around the bit that you want. Once you've done that, find where you change the scanning resolution (it will be in a menu somewhere) and change the resolution to maybe 600 or 800 dpi (tomkin, you may have a different idea about what res would be best!).
Then, just scan it, and the little bit you chose will be the only bit the computer scans! It will be a larger picture and a larger file size than the little one that's currently on the board.
Did that help? ;D
Prue
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Erm, ??? ;D I'd better sleep on this one.
I shall try again tomorrow. Scanning and saving a ??? smaller size?
Nite, nite all. :-*
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Come on Lesanne!
Even I understood Prue .... You can do it! ::)
You can't to go to bed yet it's too early!
Annie ;) ;)
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Aw, Annie,
I have to be up at 4am, to get to the flower market.
It took me nearly 45mins to do the last posting,. ;D :-X ;D
With all the desizing and rescanning, I should take till tomoz anyhow.
I really must go.. See yuz all.
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Hi Annie, Lesanne & Prue,
Annie I can't believe that you
haven't got a scanner.I thought i was the only one working
with ancient equipment & I have got one.Drop broad hints at
xmas. ( Nooo! I'm not going to buy you one)
Prue, I was just trying to compose a method that would
explain ( it could have taken a long time) when you did it
brilliantly. It all depends on the quality of the original. I would do exactly
as you said. first at 150d.p.i. then save it to file,naming it scan 1.
Then do it again at 300d.p.i and save as scan 2.Repeat at 450 d.p.i
& 600 d.pi.. Open all 4 in your photo software and see which gives
the best result( or post all 4 and let us see.)
Anyway Russell Crowe is just about to kill the baddie Emperor,
So ta ta for now.
Tomkin.
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Lordy Tomkin!
Thank goodness you didn't tell Lesanne that - she would have lost it ;)
I'm talking up a storm for a scanner - but nobody's listening :P
Enjoy Russell Crow!!!
Annie
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Got it Lesanne, printed it. Now we have a name, a face and I guess that is "home". I'll try those tips tomorrow. Thx all!
G'nite
k.
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Why not ask the old dear to come out into the light?
Aye yours
Rog
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??? I don't know her exact death date, but it is around 60yrs ago. ???
I suppose I could send a psychic request to sit in front of the digital. 8)
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Does this look any better. ???
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Hi Lesanne,
No!! is the quick answer ;D
Your picture is only 19kb in size - we would like one with 200kb to get much out of the window!
It looks fine on the computer - but not when put into photo software.
If you scanned it a 600pbi - don't then reduce the image size down to much to send.
Where is Annie when you need her! ;D
Cheers
Keith
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LOL ;D Will try again.
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;D
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;D ;D Oopps.
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;D Rightio, another one..
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??? ??? Why is this only 15 but bigger ??? ???
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OK Lesanne - one step at a time .... :P
If you do a preview scan (most scanners do this) then you can see the photo on screen, and with a selection tool, you can draw a box around the bit that you want.
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Once you've done that, find where you change the scanning resolution (it will be in a menu somewhere) and change the resolution to maybe 600 or 800 dpi
:P
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How about this one
Cheers
Guy
http://anguline.co.uk/face22.jpg
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Then, just scan it, and the little bit you chose will be the only bit the computer scans! It will be a larger picture and a larger file size than the little one that's currently on the board.
That's what Prue said ..... :P
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Hi Annie, Take it that one's no good then. ???
and Guy, I can only see the paper clip thingy. ???
and .. I did try 700 but told me it's to big... and error occured... Duh. ???
Is it any wonder Bob gave up on the webspace. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Guy!
I hate to say this -
cos you were good enough to do it - but can you open it ?
because I can't - my computer won't let me! ::)
Annie
Why does everybody get mad at us and give up Lesanne??
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Annie, ??? Just don't understand us I suppose. :(
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:D Annie, do you still want to have a go at that website space wotsit?
'cause my page is still out there
waiting for me to .... ??? overwrite it, is yours too.... :P
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Hi Lesanne,
You can do it!!
Annie has told you fine - when you said you tried 700 - what in your scanner said it was to big??
If you are able to move/insert a resolution try the largest that you can - for the small area of window - then do not alter it to put on here - it will not be more than 300kb.
By the way just click on Guys address - it will open in a new window - it's better than I could get from your very small picture.
Go on it will be worth it in the end - honest!
Cheers
Keith
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Not the scanner to big, it was the posting on here ???
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I couldn't get it to open in the message so I added a link to my website.
Try clicking on
http://anguline.co.uk/face22.jpg
Cheers
Guy
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Oh yes, thanks Guy, that's good isn't it..
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Right - if it said it was to big - thats great!!
It means it is more that 300kb
If that was for the whole of the photo - crop it to just the window part - (can you crop?) - then it will be less than 300kb - but you might have to rename it - ass this site might remember the original name.
If it was just the window - even better - with your picture in your picture viewer (Photoshop or whatever) hover your mouse on image tab along the top - a window will open with choices - choose resize.
When that opens it will give you a choice to resize in Pixels - not sure what will be there - but alter it to a slightly smaller number - then close and resave.
Hope you can understand than ramble.
Awaiting with baited breath!! ;D
Keith
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Hurry up Lesanne!
We're on Page 3 and we haven't got the picture up yet - between us !!
People are going to think we're dumb or somethin'
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Wot me think that - Annie - never ;D
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Last one. 8)
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Run out of matchsticks... bedtime. Nite all, thanks for all your help to night.
:-[ :-[
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oh Lesanne!
Lets not bother with one - find another one do!
Annie :P
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LOL Lesanne and Annie, a right pair you are ;D
You're doing well Lesanne, step by step you are getting there!
So, now you have scanned your photo to a high resolution. I am guessing you have scanned the whole photo, and now have it your imaging program (Photoshop, Paint, whatever). What Keith said about it being a BIG file is good!! We want it big!!
If that's the case, all you need to do now is get your selection tool which usually looks like either an arrow, or a square with dotted lines, and draw a square around the face in the window.
Now, while the square with dotted lines is still sitting there around that bit of the photo, go to your menu bar, and find where it gives you an option to "crop". On my Photoshop program, it's under "IMAGE - CROP". Click on "crop" wherever it is, and what you should end up with is the rest of the photograph has disappeared, and only the face in the window is left on your screen.
Go to the FILE menu, and choose SAVE AS. give it a name, and then save it somewhere.
Then have a look at its properties. I think you can right click on the file in a PC, and click the file once and choose "Command-I" in a Mac, to get this info. It will tell you what sort of file it is (whether JPG, TIF, or something else) and also how big it is (e.g. 250kb, 1mb etc.). Before you post the photo on the board, come back and tell us what this information is. We can then judge if it's ready to be posted, or if you need to make further changes.
I hope I made sense ??? ??? ???
Good luck!! Am now determined to have you succeed whether you like it or not!! ;D
Prue
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I'm telling you Prue !
Lesanne and I are exactly the same -
(though I really think she's a little more clever than me )
You have to say it in everyday language - otherwise it goes right over our heads
We are both computer illiterate! - I mean it! ::)
The only reason I have so many postings is cos it's the only thing I can do!!
plus it's easy!
Wish you guys could just do a little something with Tomkins little photo - she'd be thrilled with that - you made me very happy with my little photo !!
Annie ::)
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'allo,
Just got in from work, so I will be turning in straight away.
Hope to get to this tomoz. Nite all and thanks for your help.
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Too bad I'm asleep when you are all chatting!! Here's what I got from the photo..She's a lady, hair done in style of the period, wearing a lace collar..probably crocheted, (maybe by herself). She is reaching into the vase (hand in image) either placing or taking care of something. She strikes me as a gentle woman.
Thanks to all for your efforts with the photo!
G'nite
k.
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Ok, first of the day. 2.40 pm ;D
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Hi Lesanne,
Now you are starting to cook with gas,
Very well done,
Tomkin.
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;D geez, thanks Tomkin. I've done something right, but what... ??? ;D ;D
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Hi Lesanne,
Repeat what you did but this time scan the cropped
image at a slightly higher resolution than you did before.
Take a note of that resolution. Save it to file and post it.
We will sort out what you did right later.
PrueM will keep us on the right track.
Tomkin.
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Where would one find the revolution. ;D Beetles track perhaps. ???
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Gotcha Lesanne,
You spelled Beatles wrong.
:o What is the make and model of your scanner?
Tomkin.
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;D On porpoise I'll have you know....
Epson 2480 ;D Cheers.
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OOooh Lesanne you are nearly there!! :D
Stick with it, not long to go now!
Prue
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Hi Lesanne,
I have just popped onto the Epson website and
looked at the manual for your scanner. Of course the terminology
is different to my scanner. The cropped area that PrueM mentioned
is called the Marquee by Epson.(I always thought it was a big tent)
See if you can find that description in your instruction book.
When you have cropped or Marqueed (if that isn't a proper
word then it ought to be) the area that you are going to scan will be
shown as a dotted square.The dots will seem to move.That shows that the area is active.
On your screen should be a menu for your
scanning options. on the left hand side will be the word"resolution"
At the side of that will be an oblong box. this is where you alter the scanning resolution. There will be a figure in there already. It may be
75, 150, 300 or some such figure.At the right of the box is a menu
arrow. if you click on that, a menu will appear giving a range of resolutions, i.e. 75, 150 300 etc. Select one of those and you will scan
at that resolution. At the right hand side of the oblong is d.p.i.
All that means is dots per inch. When you have scanned the area
covered by the Marquee (back to tents again) you will be given the
option to save to file. As I said previously, Scan at 75 and call it scan1,
Next scan at 150 and call it scan 2, and so on.
On my old scanner I could alter the resolution by typing in the figure or use a slider to increase it by any amount from 1 to 9,600d.p.i
I must admit that I have hardly used my new one so I do not know
what it's capable of.( I nearly bought one of yours but I got a new one
from Canon via e-bay at a ridiculously low price)
Remember, Take it a step at a time.We all learn by trial and error.
Tomkin
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;D Thank you for this. I should be very good at this techno stuff, eventually.
I shall, cut and paste. Then print off. Go to sleep. Then do it tomoz.
I really do appreciate the trouble you have gone to, for me. :D L.
The Bowling Stones, were good too !!
Nite ;D
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Hi Lesanne,
I never cut and paste so it's obvious you
know more than me on that subject.
Hope the little red rooster does not wake you
too early & don't forget to put some brown sugar in your coffee
or you won't get no satisfaction.
Tomkin.
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;D Oh, very good, Tomkin. ;D ;D
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Ok, and tonight's problem Student ask's...... ;D
Popped photo in scanner,
Click on Scan and save,
Image Format~PDF Single page = No resolution window, ( I've been using this)
~PDF Multi page= gives revolution+DPI !! (couldn't resist it Tomkin)
Now, I saved this on my desktop and is now a PDF file ???
This won't transfer to Irvan, Paint or anything else that I can crop or cut or marquee.
I presume that PDF doesn't go anywhere the same way as J.peg's do ???
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Hi Lesanne,
Oh dear,
P.D.F. stands for Portable Document format.
This is a system for the electronic distribution of documents.
To be able to read a p.d.f. file you need Adobe Reader.
I often download brochures of items that I am thinking of
buying. These brochures are in p.d.f. I can then read the brochure
on my computer without having to go to a shop to obtain one.
Recently I downloaded the brochures for all the Toshiba D.V.D &
V.H.S players so that I could check certain specifications.
This is a long winded way of saying that we will have to start from scratch. Unfortunately Epson will not let me download the
brochure of your scanner(p.d.f. file). I have to read it on line.
P.D.F is a document file not an image file like J.P.E.G
PrueM Help!!!!! where are you when I need you?
Tomkin
P.S we will have you working for Microsoft by the time we
have finished with you.
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Ok, perhaps I don't scan and save.
I do something else to give me an image transfilable file,..... "phew ;D
instead of a text thingy one... ;)
C ya L8R 8)
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Oh sorry!!! I was in bed - on the other side of the world, you know ;D
I can't find the manual for your model of scanner, but it sounds to me like there must be a step in there where you can choose the format of the file you are creating. That is, instead of a pdf file, you can select from a number of different types such as tif, txt, and jpg.
See if you can locate the menu where you get to choose the file format, and if there is a jpg option there. I guarantee there will be! :D
Then, see if you can find somewhere you can choose to do a preview scan. This is where the scanner does an initial quick scan, and shows you what it's scanned, so that you can choose only a bit of the object to do the final scan on. On the scanners I've used, there is a button that says "preview".
After you've done a preview scan, you should be able to choose all the other options like select an area to scan, choose a file type, choose where to save it, change the resolution etc.
Prue
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Oh, hold your horses...I've found the online instruction booklet!
Tomkin, have you seen http://support2.epson.net/manuals/english/scanner/perfection2480p2580p/REF_G/INDEX.HTM
I'm afraid I have to get off to work now :-\ will look forward to seeing what you lot manage to achieve before I get back online tonight ;D ;D ;D
Prue
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Hi PrueM,
That's the online instructions that I have been reading.
I still prefer to download it onto my computer (P.D.F file, Lesanne)
But for some reason Epson will not allow me to.
Having read through it, I do not think it is user friendly
for a beginner. First thing to do is find out if Lesanne has the manual
so we can go step by step.
Unfortunately several urgent matters have arisen which
will need my attention ( family bereavement) Also I expect to be without a computer from this weekend for some time.
Lesanne have you got an instruction book? ( No! not on flower
arranging. On the 2480 scanner)
Tomkin
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Hi Lesanne,
I shall have to be quick before my computer throws
another wobbly.
1) Have you got an instruction book for your scanner?
2) what software do you use, to make your scanner available?
Tomkin
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Hi Lesanne,
I am posting these just to try my settings.
Tomkin
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Hi Tomkin,
Just got in from work, Thurs, Fri and Sat's are very busy with the weddings and all, I thought the wedding season was over. But hey, its all good for business.
Looking at your post image, doesn't look like that on mine :-\
I shall be able to concentrate on it tomoz. Perhaps I can do an image like yours of my scanner info page... but don't hold your breath...
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Hi Lesanne,
Does it look like this?
Tomkin
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Yes, that's it.. :D
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Cracked it,
Now what software or programme do you use to
open your scanner ( I.E. Acquire)
When we know that the rest will be plain sailing.
Tomorrow or when you are ready ,we will go through the
process step by step.
Microsoft, get ready for Lesanne.
Tomkin
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:D do you mean AOL ???
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Aol I think is internet
When you want to use the scanner you
will probably use an imaging software like Photoshop,Elements,
Irfanview or Serif Photoplus to open it.
In short how do you use your scanner with your computer?
How do you get your scanner to work on your computer.
Just describe how you get to the screen where you said "thats it"
Imagine that you have just turned on your computer and want to
scan a photo.
Tomkin
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Lesanne,
Did you get a programme called Arcsoft
Photo Impression with your scanner? If so is it installed on
your computer?
Tomkin. (this beats flower arranging)
P.S from monday I am likely to be offline for several days.
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You're doing a great job tomkin ;D
I think flower arranging must easier tho' - and I've never done it!! ;D ;D
Will keep a eye out if you haven't done it all by Monday (which Monday!!??)
Cheers
Keith
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Walk into my garden. Grab a handful of beautiful yellow
daisies (some one once told me that their posh name was
Dandy o' Leon ) Walk back into the house, empty nearest jamjar
of the mornings tea. Half fill with water from sink.
Throw flowers into said recepticle. Place on mantlepiece.
People will enter the house and stand there speechless at the
beautiful spectacle.
Flower arranging the Tomkin way.
Try it keith, don't be frightened.
Tomkin.
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It's a bit dark out there at the moment ;D
Wondered what the technical name for the yellow things I managed to grow was - now I know :P
Keith
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Don't want you to think that I'm counting or anything - but it's page 6!!!! ::) ::)
Come on Lesanne! - do your utty!!
Annie ;) ;) ;)
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Let's not rush things. I have plenty of time &
Lesanne is a busy lady. I was quite pleased
yesterday my computer only crashed 7 times.
Internet explorer keeps committing a fatal error and
warns that it is closing down and Photoshop Elements
tells me that I have insufficient memory or haven't got
the correct module or something.
So you see I have plenty of time,Lesanne hasn't. Anyway Liverpool Annie, I seem to have missed you for the last few days. What have you been up to? (& tell the truth)
Tomkin
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Back soon.
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:D Technical name is Taraxacum officinalis.
Did a wedding based on this a few years ago. :D
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Quote from tomkin:
Now what software or programme do you use to open your scanner
:D Technical name is Taraxacum officinalis.
Did a wedding based on this a few years ago. :D
Don't know that software - does it run on AOL ;D ;D
Cheers
Keith
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The scanner has it's own software, I presume. It just open's on that page you put up, tells me to wait while it warms up, then off I go.
Confused everybody. ???
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Thanks Lesanne.
Turn on your scanner etc. until you see that Menu.
At the top where it says full auto mode you will see a V. Click on
that and a drop down menu will appear.
Click on professional mode and the you should now see the image that I posted which shows the resolution settings etc.
If you want to change back to full auto mode, click on the V and select
full auto mode and you will go back to where you started.
Try it and tell me if you have any difficulties.Look at my previous
image and make sure they are the same.
Tomkin
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Yep, its the same.... ;D ;D Whooopeeee. 8)
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I'll have a go with that then. ;)
C ya L8r's.
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You see. I told you that you were clever.
Now where you see the word resolution, you should see a number.
At the side of that number is another V. Click on that and another menu
will appear giving you a choice of resolutions. They will probably be
75, 150 , 300, 600 etc. Make a note and tell me what they are.
Tomkin
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Every thing from 50 to 12500 whoo.
Gone to preview, so I can Chose what to save.
Tried marqueeing, ??? Little box round the face/window.
Erm...
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Ok, got the little active bit.
Clicked on scan.
Will take 12 minutes ???
Whow scary! :o
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Came back with ....
Unable to write file ???
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Lesanne, Calm down don't get too excited. I am trying
to go slowly,step by step. What do you mean preview??
Why have you gone there?.
Anyway if you scan at 50 dpi then the image will be coarse.
The higher the resolution the finer the scanned image will be.
This will depend on several factors such as the quality of the original
image. The problem is that the higher the resolution the larger the file becomes.
But first you have to master the marquee tool.Read my previous posting.
If I were you I would scan at 75 -100 dpi. so you will have to set that in
the resolution box
The picture should appear showing the window etc.
Put your mouse cursor on the top corner of the window pane where
the face appears. Press on the left mouse button and keeping it pressed
( the cursor should have changed to cross hairs +) Drag the crosshairs
to the opposite corner of the pane. A dotted box should have appearred
which totally surrounds the pane.Release the mouse button and the box
will remain. It seems to blink slightly. This shows that it is an active area.
The rest of the picture should darken showing that it is inactive.
Try it. let me know what happens. We have nearly finished
Tomkin
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I have either Preview or scan to choose from.
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Scan comes back....
Unable to write file ... J. peg plug in ???
Preview.. Scans and shows picture. Mouse activates the area/ picture.
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:o Its going to take 1,200 mins to do. :o
Better cancel all that then. ;D Grief. :-\
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Hi Lesanne,
Lets step back slightly. Put your photo on the platen and click preview.
My fault,I was jumping too far ahead. The full picture should appear.
We are then interested in scanning the face at the window.
Follow the steps in my previous posting from " put your mouse
cursor on the top corner.......
When you have mastered that you will be able to do anything.
Tomkin
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I've got the active box round the face/window.
All goes kaput from there ???
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Hi Lesanne,
I think tomkin has had to go for a lie down in a darkened room.
We were up to resizing your photo after using the double-end arrows to mark the area you want to scan - when you have done that, alter the resolution.
You say it says 10 mins - try another resolution - (just to see if they all take 10 mins!!!)
Making sure that you are only going to scan part of the picture - not the whole thing.
I have a different scanner so it will work slightly differently - but very similar!
It should only take 30 seconds to scan the small window you want - at nearly all resolutions
Let me know how you are getting on.
Cheers
Keith
P.S. please do not read anything on the "free webspace" page of this site - someone is trying to help me put my website back running properly - it's taking ages!!
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Hi Keith,
I wouldn't dare even look at the webspace. I got scary looking lines all horizontal on puta, when I wuz there last.... :o
I tried scanning this small area of the photo, puta went kaput and only just back online...... :-\
I had just better stay well away from all this technical stuff. :-[
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Lesanne,
what sort of computer do you have? i.e. what make and model? Sounds like it's having problems dealing with anything major like scanning a big pic.
Prue
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I don't know. :-[ :-[
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;D Dare I say, it's a blue one ;D
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;D ;D ;D Lesanne!
YOu have the patience of a saint. Truly!
Have a look at your puter. The box bit, not the monitor. Is there anything written on the box? Like Compaq, Gateway, HewlettPackard, Macintosh, Unisys, Dell....and there might be some numbers as well.
Also, when you first turn the puter on and it starts up all the Windows programs (I'm assuming here that it's not a Macintosh, as then you'd not have Windows) what does it say about the version of Windows it's using? For example, mine says "Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional".
Prue
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Good job - blue's your favourite colour Prue!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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LOL annie!! What a pity my favourite colour isn't beige, I'd be in heaven with my work puter then ::) I have a beautiful, clean, white iMac G5 at home that I love to bits. Used to have a blue iMac though, one of those bubble ones that came out about 8 years ago.
I wonder if Lesanne is getting sick of all us obsessives yet?? ;D
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I bet if Lesanne had a Mac she would have restored the face in the window herself. ;D
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Excellent, a Mac vs. IBM flamewar!! Bring it on deadants ;D
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I've got a Mac to go with my Jeanette!! 8)
She'd better hurry up - we're going to have to ask Trystan for more server space!!
Lesanne ! - come on Girlfriend - you can do it - one last surge!! ;) ;) ;)
Do it and wonder how you did it!!
Annie
We're on page 8!
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While were waiting, I thought I would clean the dirty window a bit.
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Good Morning to you all,
Prue, Annie, Keith, Deadants and especially Tomkin.
I'm sure you can guess my next phrase...
Gotta turn it off to find out the start screen.... :-[ :-[
Now, I'm away off to work. I am working on a giant rose flower.
The rain is pouring here, not a glimmer of sun.
C ya L8r. 8)
And a luke skywalker Light sabre in blue
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Morning,
Windows XP.
Epson Perfection 2480 Photo.
Does this mean anything much? :-[
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Hello Lesanne,
Well, I thought the operating system (Windows XP) might give us a clue as to why the scanner is saying it's going to take so long!! But I don't think that's the problem. Maybe someone more computer minded can help out here!
I think you are doing the other steps right, in terms of selecting the area you want to scan, and changing the resolution.
I'm stumped ??? Going to make a cuppa! When I come back I expect to see this problem fixed!! ;D ;D ;D
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Every thing from 50 to 12500 whoo.
Gone to preview, so I can Chose what to save.
Tried marqueeing, ??? Little box round the face/window.
Erm...
Hi Lesanne,
You should chose what resolution first, try 300dpi first time - making sure "Document Size" hasn't been set to anything large by you.
Also make sure that the "Target Size" tab has nothing set in the small window as per photo below.
As I have said it is not my scanner - so I am just reading the instrustions myself - without actually being able to put them into practice.
"Preview" is the actual process of scanning - so if the resolution etc are set too large - a huge file can be created.
Try that way again - see what happens ;D
Cheers
Keith
P.S. Lovely crisp sunny day here in Shropshire - so the world is looking good - so everthing must work!!
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Should have said NOT to tick the unsharp mask (yet)
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How do you post the image, of the scanner page, with the info.
I've tried right clicking, left clicking,
up down in out round and round here and there.
C ya L8r's. ;D
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Do we want to start something else ;D
You save the picture by right clicking and use "save as" to your folder on the harddrive (using a name you will remember). Then from this page in "additional options" use the browse button to find the picture you have just renamed - and click OK.
Now - I am asking myself - WHY does she want to know that! ???
Cheers
Keith
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Any position or place that you right click on..per chance?
Assoloootelly nothing happening.... ::)
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Hey, what's happening?
I've been pinching a couple of minutes a day just to tune in to find out if Lesanne has been able to plant the face and it's suddenly gone very quiet.
Not given up I hope!
Sandie
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:D I'll be back....
Need 2 B. It's the only photo of her.
Just had the christmas delivery in and trying to design a christmas window. Have a herd of reindeer, with some in the sky, with snow chrystals, and ice. Just got to put the flowers somewhere as well... Ummm..
:-X I tried to get the image posted again yesterday, didn't happen. :-[ If I could post the scanner info page, with the detail on it, :D someone, somewhere might tell me where it's gone wrong. 8)
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Any position or place that you right click on..per chance?
Assoloootelly nothing happening.... ::)
Just put your mouse over the picture and right click - should come up with a list of things to do - "save picture " being one of them.
Try that again and say what happens!!
Cheers
Keith
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Got the page up on screen. Right clicking like mad, all over the page.
Still assoolootelty nofinn :-[ Nowt, nothing at all.
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Lesanne,
Get the scanner info page up on the screen, then press the "Windows" key and the "print screen" key. If you then go to MS Word or an imaging program, you should be able to then paste what you copied when you pressed "print screen".
Then, save the MS Word document or image, and try to post it on this board as an attachment.
Let us know how you go!! I know that's another thing for you to try to work out, but perhaps it might give people the clue they need to sort this out!!
(http:///Users/pruemckay/Desktop/Windows.jpg)(http:///Users/pruemckay/Desktop/Print-Scrn.jpg)
I've added some pictures of my keyboard to show you the keys I press to do this.
;D
Prue
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...and the others...
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Yep, got that, and tried it.
I have to copy and paste most of the time with AOL.
But this just won't go to copy at all.
So no chance of pasting if it won't copy :-X :-X
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Sorry - no nothing about the keys to use with aol - if they are different to Windows
Keith
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Mode= Prof Mode
Setting= Current Setting
Document=Document Table
Exposure Type= Photo
Image Type=48bit Colour
Resolution=600 dpi
Document= (greyed out)
W= ? H=?
Scale=100%
Adjustments= Histogram / Image / Tone correction
Unsharp Mask
Descreening filter
Colour restoration
Dust removel
Preveiw or Scan
HELP Configuration CLOSE
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It is windows X P, does it make a difference if ISP is AOL
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;D Trying to scan photo.
Preview -scans the photo.
Scan -Does not Scan, comes up unable to write file ???
What's J.Peg Plug in ??? ::) ;D
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:D Prue, have you gone for a lie down, with a cold flannel, for your head ;D
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Hi Lesanne,
Have you figured out how to do a Preview Scan yet? If you could just do a preview scan to start with, this should be your first step. Once you have done a preview we will move onto the next step.
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:D How do you get that scan info page >:( argh... ;D ;D
Yep, done preview, loads of 'em.
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If you get the "preview scan" to work - then you must see the whole picture - including the window.
Then put your mouse over this picture and do the altering of the picture with your mouse by using the "double ended" mouse to adjust the lines around your photo to include just the window.
DON'T Press SCAN
Now go to resolution and alter this to 150 - it might give you the "Image Memory size" somewhere - this should be about 800kb - but anything so long as it is not 800mg!!
Now press SCAN!!
Wonder what will happen?? ;D
Cheers
Keith
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;D Trying to scan photo.
Preview -scans the photo.
Scan -Does not Scan, comes up unable to write file ???
What's J.Peg Plug in ??? ::) ;D
Thought you said you could do a preview scan
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Yep, did a preview scan, Put the little box round the window/face. Got the resolution to 150 dpi. Went to scan --- Unable to write file again ??? :-[
There just must be something, so tiny, that I'm doing..... :-\
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Great now we can move onto the next step. Once you have done your preview, Click the Zoom Preview button to zoom in on a selected area of the image. Use a marquee to select the part of the image you want to zoom in and then click the zoom button. An enlargement of the selection appears in the Zoom menu, allowing you to see the effects of your settings in more details.
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Ok, Looking good.
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There just must be something, so tiny, that I'm doing..... :-\
Ok, just for interests sake, lets do it one more time. It's a bit of a struggle because I am only reading from the instruction manual.
There could be something wrong other than the scanning process, but let's go down this route first.
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Ok, got my flask and sarny's... :D
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Ok stand by I am figuring out the next step. :)
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Lesanne, what image software are you using?
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Erm... Well, other stuff just get's scanned and saved into wherever.
I have downed Irvan, got that on Desktop to use, whenever. :)
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OK, We have gone all out now, we have got our hands on an Epson scanner and it uses the same software as yours. soil we are in the middle of setting it up now. So we might take about half hour to figure it all out. So if you have to go to bed, no worries, We will knock out a tutorial for you.
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:D Oh wow, That's great, thank you so much. Mine's Epson 2480 Photo.
It's such a shame that it's Friday already and I have to sleep yet.
Will you still be awake in 7 hours.....
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Yes I will still be here, trying to figure out how to use this scanner. This scanner we have a loan of is an Epson Perfection 2580 Photo which is the next model up from yours but will do exactly the same.
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:D Rightio, I'll go and get my head down.. C ya L8r. 8)
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Songs of the face at the window ........... !!
When I'm calling you-oo-oo oo-oo-oo!
You will answer too-oo-oo oo-oo-oo!
That means I offer my help to you to be your own.
If you refuse me, my computer will be blue
And waiting all alone;
But if when you hear my help call ringing clear,
And I hear your answering echo, so do not fear
Then I will know our toil will come true,
You'll be happy with me, I'll be happy with you!
Pretty good huh??
Annie
8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Beautiful, Annie!! Nelson Eddy approves!!
I did go for a lie down, coz I'm sick today :( got a horror head cold and feel terrible. I thought the copy and paste screen thing might help, but can't understand why it didn't ??? ??? ??? Shouldn't have anything to do with AOL or any other ISP.. But anyway, it seems that deadants has come to the rescue!!!! Hooray!
Prue
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Hope you feel better Honey! - did the words help??
Take it easy ... we're only on page 10 - plenty of time yet!!
Good old Deadants - what a guy!! we're so fortunate to have a man around like him !! ;) ;) ;) ;)
Annie
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Well all this attention. I'm startting to blush, golly gee 8)
I hope this tutorial works. fingers crossed.
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The best way to scan your photos is straight from your graphics software. I have done this step by step using IrfanView but most graphics software will do the same. If you haven’t got IrfanView you can get it from this link
http://www.irfanview.com/
OK, lets start by opening IrfanView. When you have IrfanViw open, go to File/ Select TWAIN Source. This will look for your Scanner.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step1.jpg)
You should get another dialog box open which shows all the TWAIN devices connected to your computer. Select the “EPSON Perfection…” Then click Select.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step2.jpg)
Now you go to file again and select Acquire/Batch scanning.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step3.jpg)
A new window opens asking for the Acquire Method. Make sure that the first two radio buttons are selected and click OK.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step4.jpg)
The next window to open will be your scanner settings. You may get one of two windows open. If the following window opens, go to the Mode drop down window and select Professional Mode.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step5a.jpg)
The following window opens, and then set the resolution to 300dpi and Click Preview.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step5b.jpg)
Now you drag your crosshair cursor over your target (in your case, the face in the window) Then Click Zoom.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step6.jpg)
Once the scanner has finished its preview Scan, a new window opens and you should see the targeted area you selected zoomed up nice and big.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step8.jpg)
Now you can set your resolution higher if you want to, I used 600dpi to see what would happen. Then select Scan. Once the scanner has done its job it will disapear and the scanning process is finished.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/deadants/step9.jpg)
There is no Step 7 by the way. I just made a typo.
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::) My goodness, you have been working hard, thankyou, thankyou, :-*
Funnily enough, I went to bed with Surfing on my mind...
Will go through posts, i have an hour B 4 I have to go work. ;D
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Let's see....... Drum roll.. da da da...
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Yahoo! You did it deadants..... Yahoo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:-* :-* :-* :-*
I'm grinning like the Cheshire Cat.
Thank you x loads.
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If I ask Bob, do you think he could do a tutiorial like that for the webspace ??
I must be a student needing pictures (Photographic memory)
can't do text (Academic).
Wahoo, skipping off to work this a.m. ;D ;D
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By the way, that was me in my younger days. A wompy stopy surfer boy.
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If you ask Bob very nicely with sugar on top, he just might break the steps down to little pictures like mine. One more thing, go through the same steps again but before you do your final scan, bump the Resolution up to 1200dpi and see what happens.
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I'm just printing off all 9 pages...
Where was it taken? You don't have a wet suit.
There's a photo somewhere of my surfing days and we all look like seals in our black wet suits. North Atlantic, Cornwall. Brrr.
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I grew up at Merewether Beach, Newcastle. NSW the only time I wore a wetty was in the middle of winter when the temp dropped all the way down to a chilly 50°F ;D
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1200 coming up,
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Now your getting the hang of it. I can see you getting more use out of that scanner now. ;)
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Brilliant, This is great. Deadants, I feel a special trip to Aus coming up.
'cause you need a big hug.
;D
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Awww, shucks. I'm going to go all shy now.
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:D Off to work, will have another go tonight.
Cya L8r's :D
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I think I will have to do a step by step tutorial on saving with Irfanview so you can post images for restoration. The Big version is so compressed by jpeg that it goes all blocky or pixelated when you zoom in on it. This is a problem that a lot of people seem to have. I'm no expert on Irfanview, so it may take me a few hours to get the hang of whats going on. This will have to be another topic because this one is a wopper. It was started on the on: 24 October it has up to this posting 161 Replies and almost 1400 viewings. This is getting almost as big as the censuswack.
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Well done to you both - Lesanne & deadants!! ;D ;D
Nice surprise this morning to wake up to a large picture of Gran at the window.
Just a thought deadants - when I use my old scanner with Paints Shop Pro - I can only save the file to "jpg" - when I use Photoshop I can save with lots of choices.
I have just done one picture doing exactly the same things in both - the jpg was 2.8mg the Tiff was 28mg - so I guess a lot depends on the extra sotware you use. I knew jpgs compressed the file but did not realise that much.
Might put something along those lines in your fabulous tutorial.
Once again - well done to both of you - and Annie for the poem!
Cheers
Keith
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Wow! Lesanne you did it!! woohoo!! ;) Page 11 - Tomkin Keith and Prue will be proud !!
Now Deadants - you know of course - you've created a "Monster "!!
She's going to be scanning pictures all over the site now!!! you wompy stopy surfer boy you!!
Annie
PS That's the kind of scanner I need to buy - now all the instructions are here!! ;)
So what is it again Deadants??
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CONGRATULATIONS!!
We all knew you'd get there, you just needed the right kind of prompts, well done deadants for coming to the rescue.
I have to say they're the kind of instructions I need for anything technical - simple step by step pictures.
Sandie
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Hi Lesanne,
I thought after your great work in finally mastering the art of scanning that I ought to have a go at your end result!! ;D
I am sorry that after all your hard work I am unable to do much with it - but at least it gave me a go at using deadants tutorial - practice makes perfect - well in my case I think I need some more practice!!
Cheers
Keith
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Keith !
How come you made Grandma look like Albert Einstein?? ::)
The hair etc.....!
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Hi Keith,
This has been a truly, marvellous thread. To say thanks to everyone, just doesn't give over the heart felt ... joy, exitement, pleasure etc, etc.
I have just posted on the web space post for Bob, a very sugary please can we have a pictorial ;D for all of us who just need simple pictures. Which I imagine take the longest to do, so much more work.
If I knew "what" was needed to make it, I would willingly lend a hand, scan, puta.
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I hope Berlin Bob takes you up on your challenge Lesanne !
then we could ALL have a website!! :D :D
Sorry to make remarks about Grandma but her hair is just like his - don't you think?
Annie ;) ;) ;)
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Keith !
How come you made Grandma look like Albert Einstein?? ::)
The hair etc.....!
I did think I had turned Grandma into Grandad!! ;D
But look forward to the next attempts by the experts.
Cheers
Keith
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My internet went down overnight, so I'm late coming back to say
[size=20PT]CONGRATULATIONS LESANNE!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]
...and well done everyone who had a hand in getting the results!! A marathon effort but worth every minute!
Prue ;D
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Hi Prue, how's that cold of yours?
It's grey and overcast up here today, good photo restoring weather. :D
Ants
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:D Ants,Prue,Annie,Keith,and all, couldn't have done it without you. :D
Right, what's the project for this week end then......
;D
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Wow! Lesanne you did it!! woohoo!! ;) Page 11 - Tomkin Keith and Prue will be proud !!
Now Deadants - you know of course - you've created a "Monster "!!
She's going to be scanning pictures all over the site now!!! you wompy stopy surfer boy you!!
Annie
PS That's the kind of scanner I need to buy - now all the instructions are here!! ;)
So what is it again Deadants??
I told you Deadants - you've created a MONSTER - now she's going to be doing EVERYTHING!! ;) ;) ;)
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I think we should start a new topic as this one is getting a little bit long winded. So Lesanne, you might consider starting a new topic asking the question whats the best way of saving your photos for restoration.
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;D ;D ;D Have you got your pictorial piece ready and waiting then ? ? ;D ;D
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Annie, We still need to do our web space.
That page, Trystan so very kindly cut short the honeymoon to give us, is still out there waiting for ...overwriting ??? ???
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No, not yet. I thought I would see how you went first. ;) but I guess If I do a similar thing on saving and posting we may get better resolution photos to work on.
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I suppose we'd miss out on all the fun, ?? :-X ??, and other imput and that would be to quick and easy too.
::) ;D Up to you.......
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Hi,
have been avidly following granny face at the window dialogue...probably one of the many folks logging in each day to see what happens next.......
Leasnne glad you have finally got to grips with your scanner..well done.
Deadants, Keith and Pru....you are all stars.
Had a go at the original inbetween reading posts..granny seems to be holding a hankerchief but I had a bit of trouble defining ...also put too much hair colour around left had side of face.
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I thought it was a lace collar of some sort. It certainly is going to take some doing to pull much out of these pixels. but at least Lesanne has now got the hang of using her scanner.
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Not a lot of defination... could even be shadows.
You did some fine work guiding Lesanne through (her) scanner procedures....... Hats off to you......and Pru and Keith.
beats the box any day.
SKIPPY
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Just a quick update.. ;D ;D Been playing with the scanner.
Have just finished photo album number 3.
Thanks so much to all of you, your patience was really terrific.
I have even managed to move a picture over to a program and mend a rip, with the colours, it doesn't notice at all.
:-* :-* :-* Lesanne.
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Now... will I get my restored chin's on here.
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Wow, I have learnt so much, thanks to all you very kind folks out there.
Now....Grannie at the window.. ::)
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Oh no, we've created a monster ;D
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:D I have to leave it for now, but I have enjoyed playing with all the greyed colour.
I now know why the dpi makes all the difference. I can only marvel at you guys for all your excellent work, restoring the photo's on here. Keep up the good work.
:D ;D :D ;D
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See Deadants! - I told you!! ::) ::) ::)
Very good Lesanne - now do something brilliant!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) - show 'em all!
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This has to be the funniest thread of the year!!
I have just had a go but could only get Einstien with a vase infront of his face, sorry.
(http://www.fox302.com/userdata/scouse_mouse/files/Pics/granny1.jpg)
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Hi Lesanne,
Now look what you have started!! ;D
Can you help me - I want to know the colour of the carpet and also the colour of her eyes!! ;D
I wonder why mums always hid behind the net curtains - perhaps that is what they were doing for most of the time in those days - while of course all they do today is be on Rootschat!
While of course the men are/were working hard. [drinking,smoking,gambling]
Cheers
Keith
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Oh that's easy, we know what granny looks like!!
(http://www.fox302.com/userdata/scouse_mouse/files/Pics/granny2.jpg)
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Hi Lesanne,
Hopefully I am now back on line.I have been
reading with great interest all that has been happening
since my last posting. This is what is so good about
Rootschat. I said you would soon be working for
Microsoft. Well done everybody- tremendous result.
Tomkin.