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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: lady hendon on Wednesday 02 November 05 19:04 GMT (UK)
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Trying to find the descandants of my great Aunt & Uncles's :-
Sarah Ann Ashman B 1889
Henry B 1890
Mabel B 1891
Willie B 1892
John B 1895
Charles B 1899
In 1901 census were living at:-
46 Clydach Rd
Ystradyfodwg
Rhondda
With their parents John Ashman & Emily(nee Whittock)
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There are 32 'Ashman' buried in Trealaw cemetery, Rhondda. Not sure if any others are yours, do not seem to fit with the info you gave, also most of the females would possibly be married.
Burial 13565 Ashman John age 44 plot C265 died 1904
Burial 26329 Ashman Emily age 51 plot C265 died 1917
Possibles?
Burial 38877 Ashman Mary Elizabeth age 5 plot C333 died 1930
Burial 50040 Ashman Martha Hannah age 54 plot C333 died 1944
Burial 61972 Ashman William John age 71 plot C333 died 1964
Interment records are available from Treorchy reference library, via email if you have the burial numbers, (just google).
This will give you date of death, address, next of kin etc. Also if you have address you can ask for electrol look ups from about 1918
Hope this helps
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Many thanks for the info.Yes these are gt. grandparents:-
John B. 1860 Blaenau/Blina. Monmouthshire
Emily B. Midsomer Norton,Somerset 1865/6
I also believe that William John is the Willie that appears on 1901 census,but
will need some more research
Alison
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No problem..let me know if you need any others.
Cas
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Hi, are you still researching the ASHMAN family.
My great grandfather Thomas Ashman (b. 1862) was the younger brother of John Ashman (b.1860)
Their parents were George (b.1827) and Dinah (b.1828) Ashman
In the next few weeks i will be going to get burial records of George & Dinah.
Contact me if you have any questions :)
Jan
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Morgan
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I have a Mabel Annie Ashman in my Tree,she married my relative Stephen Robert Stephens at Pontypridd in 1908.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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My partner is a descendent of George Henry Ashman who was the eldest son of John and Emily, born 2 years before Sarah Ann
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Hello,
My grandfather was John Ashman ( know as Jack ) born 1896 according to the 1911 census and living at 69 Clydach Road Blaenclydach with mother Emily, and siblings George, William, Sarah Ann, Mabel, Charles and Harry.
The only sibling I remember is Sarah Ann who for some reason we knew as Aunty Sissy. She was living at the time in Knoll Terrace Clydach Vale and later in sheltered accommodation in Llwynypia Rhondda.
I have a number of family photographs including a few of Sissy and another of the five brothers together - at least I think it's them. Certainly my grandfather is one and there is a strong family resemblance, I also have a wedding photograph, which I assume to be the marriage of one of the siblings. Sarah Ann, as a young woman, is one of the bridesmaids or maid of honour or something like that. There's also a very old photo of a young woman with four children, two boys and two girls. Could this be Emily with four of the children?
I'm putting together a family tree, so any help would be appreciated.
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I believe my partner remembers Sissy, I think she worked in the flower shop in Tonypandy?
His grandfather was Sissy's brother. George Henry Ashman, he remembers George so may recognise him in a picture. Sadly my partner's mother (George's daughter) died just a year ago, she may have been able to name more of the siblings. Her brother is still alive, but he was 10 years younger than her. I'm happy to ask him if you want to share the group photograph though.
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Thanks for your reply. I'm happy to post some photographs, but unless I'm being a bit dim, it's not very obvious how I go about that. Can you help?
Colin
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Since my previous post, I've worked out that my Grandfather was William John, ( not John ) since he died in 1964 at the age of 71 and therefore born in 1893. John was born in March 1898. As I said he was always known as Jack hence the confusion.
John and Emily haven't made it easy their decendants have they
The Photo is of the five brothers at least I assume it is. My Grandfather William is seated front row on the left. judging by the uniform, the photo dates from the 1914/18 War
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My apologies, it's not my own family tree so made an error.
John and Emily's eldest child was George Henry, he was the father of my partner's Grandfather William George Ashman.
So it was his Great Grandfather who was the brother of your grandfather.
I'll ask his uncle if he remembers his grandfather i.e. your great uncle George Henry and show him the photograph. As George was the eldest I presume he's the one in the middle.
Will let you know when he replies to me.
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Thanks for your help,
This is Aunty Sissy, in later life and as I remember her. I assume she was christened Sarah Ann and that Sissy was a nickname. I just wish I had asked that sort of question when they were alive.
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My partner's uncle didn't know his grandfather as he died in 1942. He knew his name was George Henry and that he'd been bombed by mustard gas in the trenches of WWI. He was then discharged from the army. He died of lung complications when about 52.
He was an ambulance driver during the war so the red cross insignia on his uniform fits in with what is known about him.
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Thanks so much for your help. I'll post more photos in the next day or so.
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Philip remembers the lady in the photograph, but he knew her as Agnes May, known affectionately as Bopa Agnes.
He said she always seemed old, and was brought to various family parties with her equally elderly husband Charlie. .
He said that his mother's sister Sarah Ann (named after her Auntie Sarah Ann the sister of the boys in the photo) was called Sis by his mother and then Auntie Sis by her children, my partner's uncle (who I'm getting the info from, and his mother who has now died). Sis was apparently short for sister.
Hope that makes sense!
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Here's a photo I know little about, except that Sissy, as a young woman, is standing on the left of the group. A family wedding or a friends wedding? Hard to say, but the men do look related to me. same shape face and nose.
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This photo shows Sissy, second left next to my Grandmother Millicent. I don't know who the chap on the left is with his arm around Sissy. One of the brothers perhaps with his wife on the right of the group? Taken in the late 1950's is my guess.
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This photo is dated September 1948 with the comment " Uncle Jack and Pat "
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I've sent them to Phillip (Ashman) to see if he recognises anyone or sees any family resemblances.
I'm confused about him calling the lady you know as Sissy Agnes. I know from doing some tree research for my partner that they did have an Agnes but on a different line.
I think I need to draw the tree out for him so he can get the gist a bit more easily of the different people in the different branches.
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Thanks for that,
I agree with your thoughts about Agnes, I think Philip is wrong about her, but I didn't like to say so because you are both trying to be so helpful. At the moment, I think Sissy could be Mable Emily ( as I found out today ) or Sarah Ann.
It would be great for me, as well, if you could copy me in on the George Henry family tree, when you get round to doing it.
I have one or two more photo's to post. I can be of more help, please let me know.
Kind Regards,
Colin
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He said that his grandfather's sister Sarah Ann more or less brought up his father's sister who was also called Sarah Ann and they called both of them Sissy. He claims that Sissy was a pet name for sister.
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This photo was taken outside the Grand Pavilion Porthcawl. The South Wales Miners often held annual conferences in the Pavilion, so it might be something to do with that.
My Grandfather, William John, on the left. I don't know who the others are, but the chap on the right has to be related - doesn't he? He looks older than my Grandfather and is obviously using a walking stick, but they look so much alike. Could this be George?
You say George died in 1942. The photo could have been taken about that time.
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This photo was taken in Barry island according to the photographers stamp on the back.
My Grandfather and Grandmother left and right. I have no idea who the woman and the children are. My gut feeling that she is a Niece on my Grandfather's side of the family which would make her the daughter of George, Sarah, Mable, John, Charles or Harry.
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Did you say your Grandfather was John or William?
Phillip didn't recognise anyone in the other pictures unfortunately. He wasn't born until 1950 so didn't know his paternal grandparents at all.
I've almost finished putting together the Ashman names I have going back to Somerset where they came original, will hopefully send through later this evening.