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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: findem on Friday 18 November 05 08:49 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for the marriage or any info regarding Simon Beal and Mary ? married circa 1735ish.
Their daughter Mary was baptised 7 July 1738 at St Stephen, Norwich and married Michael Dalton 28 June 1762 at St Mary in the Marsh, Norwich.
On the IGI I found the marriage of a Simon Beal and Mary Tillot 6 Oct 1685 at St Mary in the Marsh, Norwich. Way too early for the Simon & Mary I'm looking for but there could well be a connection.
If anyone has knowledge of the marriage or any possible clues I would be most grateful.
Thanks
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I believe I have now found the marriage of my ancestors Simon and Mary Beale aka Bale.
Simon Bale, bachelor, married Mary Dayns, widow, 1 Jan 1733 at Wymondham, Norfolk, they do not appear to have baptised children in Wymondham, or at least I've failed to find any, I have checked on Ancestry and FreeReg.
There are two Simon Bales who could be the husband of Mary Dayns: -
Simon Bale baptised 27 Oct 1705 at Wymondham, the son of Willyom and Mary.
Simon Bale baptised 1 Apr 1706 at Wymondham, the son of Bartholomew, wife's name stated to be unreadable.
Does any of the above ring a bell with anyone?
I have a very brief note, Simon Beale 1741, I have no idea where that came from, I have checked Ancestry and FreeReg 1731 to 1751 with no results.
Regards.
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Notes
The 1706 baptism at Wymondham the mother is Rachel. (NFHS)
Another Simon baptized 13 October 1711 also Wymondham of Nathanial and Ann
Great Ellingham
I mention it because as the first daughter of Michael and Mary is named Ann. Probably a coincidence
2nd daughter Jane/Jenny, 3rd daughter Jenny. First son is Michael, 2nd John 3rd Thomas.so relying on naming patterns doesn't help
There is a Mary Bales of Thomas and Mary baptized 20 September 1741 at St Andrew Raveningham Norfolk
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Thanks amondg, I'll have a look at my Family Group Sheets, especially my Daltons to see if any of those names were handed down.
Michael Dalton and his wife Mary Beales baptised their children in Gt Ellingham, their son Michael, a blacksmith, moved to Coggeshall, Essex where he married Jane Anthony.
Regards.
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Hi there, my ancestor is Simon Beales, twin brother to your Mary Beales who married Michael Dalton. I think you mentioned in your original post that their parents were Simon and Mary. Their mother was actually Elizabeth Poole, I believe; Simon and Mary's baptism record was incorrectly transcribed. Simon and his father Simon were weavers. Do you have a tree on Ancestry? I'd love to compare. Here's the link to mine: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/6176998/person/242336902958/facts.
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I believe I have now found the marriage of my ancestors Simon and Mary Beale aka Bale.
Simon Bale, bachelor, married Mary Dayns, widow, 1 Jan 1733 at Wymondham, Norfolk, they do not appear to have baptised children in Wymondham, or at least I've failed to find any, I have checked on Ancestry and FreeReg.
Is that date 1 Jan 1733/4, i.e the January which would follow December 1733? If marriage actually 1734, the following might be connected.
There is a marriage of an Edmund Dayns to a Mary Stephenson in 1729, and a burial for an Edmund Dayns in Wymondham on 20 May 1733.
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Hi there, my ancestor is Simon Beales, twin brother to your Mary Beales who married Michael Dalton. I think you mentioned in your original post that their parents were Simon and Mary. Their mother was actually Elizabeth Poole, I believe; Simon and Mary's baptism record was incorrectly transcribed. Simon and his father Simon were weavers. Do you have a tree on Ancestry? I'd love to compare. Here's the link to mine: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/6176998/person/242336902958/facts.
Hi, Sorry but I don't have my Dalton and Beale family on Ancestry. I do have just a small tree of my Essex Searles people which I put on there to counter some incorrect info regarding those Searles.
I've had a quick look at your Beales/Bales on Ancestry, Having just arrived back today in Australia from a Bali holiday I'm a bit jet lagged, so I'll have another look tomorrow when the brain is up and running.
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I believe I have now found the marriage of my ancestors Simon and Mary Beale aka Bale.
Simon Bale, bachelor, married Mary Dayns, widow, 1 Jan 1733 at Wymondham, Norfolk, they do not appear to have baptised children in Wymondham, or at least I've failed to find any, I have checked on Ancestry and FreeReg.
Is that date 1 Jan 1733/4, i.e the January which would follow December 1733? If marriage actually 1734, the following might be connected.
There is a marriage of an Edmund Dayns to a Mary Stephenson in 1729, and a burial for an Edmund Dayns in Wymondham on 20 May 1733.
Hi, I record dates as they appear in the PRS so it would be 1733/4, going by the post of ruthruss the bride may not be Mary Dayns but Elizabeth Poole, an incorrect transcription in the Bishops Transcripts, which is where I sourced that info via Family Search. All being well I'll start reviewing what I have tomorrow. It looks like I'll need to make alterations.
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I found what could be the burial of Elizabeth Bale (nee Pool) wife of Simon, Elizabeth was buried 25 Feb 1741 at Wreningham the same day as Simon & Elizabeth's daughter Rebecca was baptised at Wreningham, unfortunately the entry did not provide any identifying details such as Elizabeth being someone's wife or daughter.
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Hi there, my ancestor is Simon Beales, twin brother to your Mary Beales who married Michael Dalton. I think you mentioned in your original post that their parents were Simon and Mary. Their mother was actually Elizabeth Poole, I believe; Simon and Mary's baptism record was incorrectly transcribed. Simon and his father Simon were weavers. Do you have a tree on Ancestry? I'd love to compare. Here's the link to mine: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/6176998/person/242336902958/facts.
Beale
Having had a good look at your tree and carried out a few checks I have to say your findings are very feasible.
I am a tad concerned regarding the Mary Beal daughter of Simon and Mary, baptised 7 May 1739 per Ancestry or 7 Jul 1738 per Family Search at St Stephen Norwich, I haven’t been able to prove she didn’t marry Michael Dalton, were you able to rule her out?
Unfortunately, Michael and Mary Dalton failed to name any of their children with Mary’s parent names or Mary’s sibling names not that proves or disproves anything because the couple don’t appear to have named a son after Michael’s father.
Just for interest and the robots.
Simon Beal marriages I found: -
Simon Beal married Mary Tillot 6 Oct 1685 at St Mary in the Marsh Norwich
Simon Bale, bachelor, married Mary Drayns, widow, 1 Jan 1733 at Wymondham.
*Simon Beal, single man, married Francis Wheeler, single woman, 29 Mar 1736 by licence at Drayton, both were stated to be of Wicklewood.
* John son of Simon and Francis Bale was baptised 29 May 1737 at Wicklewood.
Other Mary Beal/Bale Baptisms, searching 1733 to 1743 Norfolk,
Mary Beal daughter of John and Helen baptised 6 Mar 1736 at Norwich.
*Mary Bale daughter of Simon baptised 20 Oct 1738 at Wicklewood Norfolk.
And from Essex although irrelevant: -
Mary Beal daughter of Johannis baptised 5 Jan 1739 at Wethersfield, Essex.