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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Jeffrey on Wednesday 30 November 05 14:17 GMT (UK)
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Hello All,
Does any one know any information about 'Glass House Street', Byker. Where it was, Type of housing etc.
Was it near any pottery as my ancestors that lived there in 1841 were Potters.
Thank you.
Judy
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Hi Judy
If you go to www.old-maps.co.uk and enter Glass House Street in the address search option then choose Northumberland you will be shown an 1864 map of the general area.
There is a St Peters Pottery shown.
Regards
Helen K
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Hi judy,
although i do not know of that particular street name not being a native of byker, when i was doing social work training in 1990`s worked in an area down near the river known locally as pottery bank after the pottery that was once there.
Had a smashing little book all about the area that included history of pottery but like many others lent it to someone in my next job and never got it back.
Think i got it from Newcastle Library .. one of the local history series. They may have a ref copy but afraid i can`t remember the name. They would know of such an address. Found the person there very helpful when i was doing my own elswick/scotswood research. Found a pic of the street my grandfather lived in.
What area are u
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Thank you for the replies on 'Glass House Street' Byker.
I have looked it up on the old map sites and I have just ordered a little booklet from Newcastle Library about Byker for about £1.50 which apparently has photos of the area.
If any one else is interested in the Newcastle area there are loads of these booklets of the different areas and you can see them on the Newcastle Library web site and can order them if you have a credit card.
The areas my ancestors were born was Glass House Street & St Peters Quay which I think are in the same area.
Thank you
Judy
Judy
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Apart from the St Peter's Pottery, don't forget the world famous Maling factory that was there from 1813 to the late 1950's. There were a number of other potteries in area.
Richard
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Hi Richard,
Thanks for the information.
My ancestors were called Branford & they also worked as Potters in Sth. Hylton Ford, Sunderland where I think there was another Malings pottery.
I wonder if they went from one Malings Pottery to another to another for some reason.
Any suggestions.
Judy
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Judy
The Maling business was started in Sunderland around 1760 and moved to Byker in the 1810's. It was originally called Ford but traded under the name of C.T. Maling. I don't know why they moved. Ford I believe was his wife's maiden name.
They had two sites in Byker although I think one was a much later addition. One building at least still exists and is, I believe, being used as a small business centre.
Another pottery (Woods) existed on the south side of Stepney Bank. The buildings can still be seen nestling almost underneath Byker Bridge.
Richard
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Don't know if you are still on this site Richard but looking through realise I hadn't thanked you for your informative reply.
Judy
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Picking up rather belatedly on references to Byker, Glasshouse Street, and potters.
My OH's family came from Byker and lived in the St Peters, Glasshouses area. A mixture of potters, glassmakers and publicans.
Marrying into the Byker glassmaking Bambrough family, the Browns are in Byker in 1851, William and his family all in the pottery trade born in Scotland.
The Bambroughs had been in Portobello Edinbrough for some years, though originally Byker glass workers , returned to N/Castle.
Eventually ,1870's, Jonas Bambrough was landlord of the Hare and Hounds along with his wife Elizabeth ( nee Brown, potters), right in the middle of the potteries and glassworks of Byker.
Thirsty work!! Must have been some lively times there!
Sadly, no record of which pottery or glassworks they all, men, women, boys, girls, worked in. Would love to have known...
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With all the different industries in that area it must have been a hive of industry at the time. Next time I can get up to Newcastle I will certainly go and visit the area to get the feel of it. It's good to hear from other family researchers about what their family did there.
Does anyone know what the nearest Non-conformist Church/Chapel was to Glass House Street in the 1830's.
I have a baptism of my 2x Gt Grandmother Maria Branford and the death of her mother Elizabeth Branford between 1830 and 1837 in that area and I can not find anything in the normal Churches.
Judy
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Don't know if you are still on here but here goes there were 2 chapels in the vicinity one next to St peters school top of glasshouse street named browns chapel over the road almost opposite there was a methodist chapel also there was a pottery on glasshouse street which became ford pottery A ford pottery B is a little further on there was a bottle works on end of quality row the kilns can still be viewed also there was 5 glassmaking works on lime street one being messrss ridley and co I know this as my gggg grandfather was the spokesman for the workers of all 5
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Thank you for your reply and yes I'm still on this web site and always interested in a reply.
Since I last posted on here I have found the burial in the Burial Ground of Ballast Hills of Elizabeth Branford wife of John Branford Potter Abode St Peters 34 years.
She was my 3x Gt Grandmother.
But still unable to find any Baptisms of their children even though in the 1851 Census I know approximately where they were born and it is all around that area.
So I am now totally convinced that they were Non conformists in some way.
Do you or anyone know anything else about 'Brown's Chapel' or the Methodist Chapel?
Thanks
Judy
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Re this topic, I knew a close friend who was born in 1927 and grew up in Byker. Sadly he passed away 5 years ago. But being from the North East myself and forming a friendship with him and his family, I learned many things from him about life in the Newcastle area during the hard times of the 1930s. Relating to pottery and glass firms in the area you mention, my friend did tell me about when he was a young child they would search for -"boodies" or "boudies" near the sites of such potteries/glass firms. A boodie or whatever was broken pieces of such products, which were treasured by those youngsters.
pityackafromblyth
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I will have a look are you on find my past as they have non conformist births deaths and marriages I will also check ballast hills for you as some of the gravestones were used to make a path around it she might be there alas the rest of the stones were cut up and used as oven bottoms would you believe.There were 700 people buried there in ballast hills cemetery
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Thank you very much. I don't know if there were more Branfords buried there but Elizabeth definitely was. Most grateful.
Children who were born in the same area to John & Elizabeth Branford who I can not find a baptism for are:
1) John Branford c 1820 St. Peters Byker
2) Elizabeth Branford c 1829 St. Peter's Quay
3) Maria Branford c1834 Byker.
They had other children 2 of them baptised in Leeds and 1 cannot find at all.
The names and years of birth I have from various census's. But can not find a Baptism for them not even of Findmypast so wondering if they were baptised in a lesser well known 'church' or 'chapel' that has not been transcribed by any group yet.
Any ideas anyone.
Thank you
Judy
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Just looking at the years between the births of the children I suppose there could have been more that had died, or even lived elsewhere that I do not know about. So maybe more buried in Ballast Hills Cemetary
The child before John was James c1816 - he didn't live after the 1841 Census. So don't have a place of birth. They were living in Glass House St then and he was born 'out of area'.