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Title: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 04 December 05 14:27 GMT (UK)
This is my Great Uncle Victor Rogers in his navy uniform.

Someone has scribbled all over the photo......Not me officer  ;D  ;D ;D

I have just tracked down his grandson and would love to give him a copy of the photo.

Many thanks- all you clever people out there. ;)

Carol
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Sunday 04 December 05 16:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol,

Needs some more work - but have to go out - will try later.

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Sunday 04 December 05 18:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole,

Getting there - bet it would look good coloured - would you like one?

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 04 December 05 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Keith,

See, I said someone clever would have a go at this pic for me  :-*

It's looking very good so far thanks.

Go on then- lets see what it would look like in colour please.

How could I refuse an offer like that  ;)...and on a Sunday too.

Regards

Carol
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: kizmiaz on Sunday 04 December 05 18:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol

I've had a bit of a mess with this and this is what I've come up with

Simple repair, and then a coloured version

(If you want full size versions of any of these, PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send them. They're a bit too big to post here. These ones are half-sized for display)

Glen
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: kizmiaz on Sunday 04 December 05 19:02 GMT (UK)
And heres a full sized one which just sneaks in under the 300 kb limit!

Just a cropped version of the coloured one above

Glen
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Sunday 04 December 05 19:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole,

Told you it would look good in colour!!   ;D

Nice one Glen - better than mine - but you have a choice Carole - never done a uniform before - think most of my relations must have worked in the fields!!

As Glen says we have to reduce it to get on here - once we start colouring.

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: Jane Eden on Sunday 04 December 05 19:42 GMT (UK)
Hi

And here is mine

Jane
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 04 December 05 22:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks guys- you are all very very clever.

Have to pick my favourite(sorry  ::)) But it must be Glen's this time.

All the best

Carol
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: rkaa on Monday 05 December 05 00:53 GMT (UK)
Good picture... very dramatic - just had to play around with it
(http://www.minneboken.com/rkaa/sailor.jpg)
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: deadants on Monday 05 December 05 05:16 GMT (UK)
I just had to have  a go at this one. It just reminded me of Keith's first colorizing attempt. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,53403.msg212838.html#msg212838
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: deadants on Monday 05 December 05 21:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol,
 was Victor a crewman of the HMS Umpire when it was sunk?
http://www.divernet.com/wrecks/wtour550903.shtml
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 05 December 05 22:48 GMT (UK)
Hello there,

Have just discovered his real name was George!!!
In fact George Victor William ROGERS- what a mouthful  ;D Known as Victor.
He died age 56 in Harrow in 1951-so I don't think he was on the Umpire when it sunk(unless some survived?)

He had two brothers also in the navy.

Regards

Carol
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: rkaa on Thursday 08 December 05 05:10 GMT (UK)
Looked around via google at various HMS Umpire info sites: It seems 9 men of 31 survived.

A quote from http://www.divernet.com/travel/1001norfolk.htm:

"HMS Umpire was a U-class submarine, rammed in error by the trawler Peter Henriks on 19 July, 1941, just nine days after it was commissioned and on its first night at sea."

So it almost seems probable that he was one of the survivors, in which case the photo might be of special interest to navy historians.
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 08 December 05 08:07 GMT (UK)
HI Rkaa

George originally signed up in 1912 age 17 for 12 years-after serving on many ships in WW1 and beyond, he finally left on 9 Oct 1928(he must have loved it!)

By then he had a young family and had moved nearer to London.

If it was the same ship as the one he served on ,he must have been very sad to hear it had been sunk in 1941.

All the best

Carol
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 08 December 05 08:12 GMT (UK)
By the way, he served on the Umpire from Aug 1917 to Mar 1919,so the pic must have been taken bewteen those dates.

Unless they got to keep their hats  ;D

Carol
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: rkaa on Thursday 08 December 05 10:59 GMT (UK)
"I'll get you, Google"... The Umpire I found even was a submarine.
How do I navigate out of this with this without examining my brain/eyes..
Let's see..  Compliment the navy on their timeless uniforms..
hmm.. no.. I'll file a complaint about their vessel naming habits instead!

R.K.
Title: Re: Please can someone clean up this dirty pic?
Post by: kizmiaz on Thursday 08 December 05 15:08 GMT (UK)
Google doesn't seem to want to give its information too freely about this particular HMS Umpire, does it? I had to try several sneaky searches before I finally found any record of the correct one.

She was a Modified R Class destroyer of the 6th Division, 13th Destroyer Flotilla, Grand Fleet, and her pendant number was F26. She was launched on 9th June 1917 and completed in August 1917, so Uncle Victor would have been a member of her first crew.

This is the closest I could find to a picture of her. Its the same class of vessel and she'd have looked almost identical other than her number.
http://www.pbenyon1.plus.com/Janes_1919/Destroyers/Admy_Mod_R.html

Glen