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Title: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: SooCatt on Sunday 01 January 06 13:29 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone and Happy New Year

I'm trying to help my Sister in law track down two of her mother's brothers.

Roy and Edwin Jeffrey were both killed in WW2 but I can find no trace of them on the CWGC site.  Although Sara's Mum was brought up by relatives and was much younger than her brothers she does remeber them and she is quite sure that they were both in the Air Force and were killed.

Do you have any ideas how I could track them down?

Would appreciate ANY ideas.

Thanks

Susan
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: Calver on Sunday 01 January 06 13:39 GMT (UK)
Hello Susan,

There's a Roy JEFFERY on the CWGC. Just wondered if you'd seen that one.

Regards,
John
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: SooCatt on Sunday 01 January 06 14:35 GMT (UK)
Hi John

Thanks for looking. I had seen that one and should have clearly ruled him out in my first posting - sorry.  Wrong parents.

Thanks for trying though.  This has really got me stumped.

Susan
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: alllegs on Sunday 01 January 06 15:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Susan,

I volunteer for the War Graves Memorial project, http://www.wargraves.org.uk/

I've searched their site and found the following

Edwin Jeffery
http://www.wargraves.org.uk/gravedetails.asp?id=163602
He was in the 1st/3rd Kent Field Coy. Royal Engineers.
Serivce Number: 939
Rank: Sapper
Buried at: Helles Memorial, Turkey.
Other details: Soldier lost at sea, 28 Oct 1915 aged 23, Son of George and Mary Jeffery of 96 Silverdale Road, Tumbridge Wells.

A photo of his grave can be requested.

There was no Roy Jeffery but there was a Royston Edward  and a Gilbert Roy?

Hope this helps
Love
Legs
xxxx
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: SooCatt on Sunday 01 January 06 15:49 GMT (UK)
Sadly that's not them either but I really appreciate that you tried.
Thank you

Susan
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 01 January 06 16:16 GMT (UK)


Hi Susan - Happy New Year!

You may want to check this out - maybe you can get their service records!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,63691.0.html

Annie :)
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: Kevwood on Sunday 01 January 06 16:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Susan, what where the parents names, so we can rule people out.

And any other info you may have on them.

Kev. ;D
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: SooCatt on Sunday 01 January 06 17:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks Annie.
That's certainly an option.

and Kev ... I really should have done that already sorry :-[

Parents were George Sizeland Jeffrey and Ann (nee Davies)

and they were living prior to the war in Otley

Thanks everyone

Susan
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: Kevwood on Sunday 01 January 06 17:25 GMT (UK)
Susan, you could try asking on here, it is a very a good forum.

http://www.wwiiforum.com/

Kev. ;D
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: loo on Sunday 01 January 06 18:37 GMT (UK)
Can you estimate when they died?  Perhaps they can be found among the "regular" deaths. 
Also, did they die in Britain, or do you know where? 
Is it possible they enlisted under-age? - people who enlisted under-age often gave false names.
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: manmack on Monday 02 January 06 06:54 GMT (UK)
susan,its unlikely that two brothers would be overlooked on the CWGC,especially in WW2,the only thing i can think of,is that they were in the american air force,or they died after the time limit for a CWGC burial,mack
Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Wednesday 04 January 06 20:18 GMT (UK)
Susan;
I would advise that you make contact with the CWGC and place your inquiry  direct, I made some contact with them regarding a lost relative, it turned out they had the spelling wrong, however they were able to find him.
You could also try local news papers.

Just one question were they both British?




Title: Re: Died in WW2 but not on CWGC - any ideas?
Post by: SooCatt on Wednesday 04 January 06 20:57 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone
I apologise for the delay in responding to these last messages but for some reason I hadn't got notification.

Anyway to try and answer all the queries:
yes they were British and in the Royal Air Force
We don't know where they were killed
It IS possible that they joined up under age since they would only have been 16 or 17 at the start of the war but of course we don't know when they joined so we can't be sure.

Following the research that I've been doing over the last few days, my sister-in-law and I are beginning to think that perhaps they weren't actually her mother's brothers but perhaps cousins who had been 'taken in'. 

I think that local newspapers is my best next option.

Thanks Kev for that forum address, I'm off there now for an hour or two!!!!


Thanks to everyone for your ideas and suggestions.

Susan