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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Keith Sherwood on Monday 02 January 06 22:58 GMT (UK)
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Hi, Everyone,
It has been pointed out to me on another thread I initiated here that there are DYNES family interests in County Clare. But can I ask whether there is anyone with any connections or information on this family in County Armagh as early as the 18thC...particularly in a place called Bluestone.
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Hi again,
If you want I can look up the Seagoe Parish registers(these would include Bluestone) possibly next week to see what Dynes' are listed?!?
By the way Bluestone is not actually a townland. The neighbouring/surrounding townlands are Lylo, Ballygargin,Crossmacaughley(there are various spellings of this),Moyraverty. Check out the Craigavon Historical society's website.
aljepeka
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Hi again, Aljepeka,
If you could possibly look at the Seagoe parish records, I would be MOST grateful. When it comes to Irish genealogy and place location, I'm afraid I'm a complete novice at the moment...
Very best wishes,
Keith
p.s. I forgot to reiterate that there should be a marriage in Bluestone for a James KERSHAW and a "Miss DYNES" c. 1750
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Hi Keith,
I have a Mary Jane DYNES b. Lurgan m. Patrick NEWS 1853 in Co Armagh.
Mary's parents Acheson DYNES and Mary HENDRON.
Acheson's parents Valentine DYNES and Mary? b. Derrytagh, Co Armagh.
If you would like any more information on this family just let me know.
Regards,
Gail
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Gail,
This is all most interesting! As I have absolutely nothing at all on the DYNES other than an extremely vague reference to the Miss DYNES of 1750 at Bluestone par (was it?) Seagoe, I would welcome any information you have on this line. The 3 generations you give would certainly bring things back to the 18thC, I should imagine.
Perhaps you would be so kind as to PM me with as much info as you have on these DYNES. I would be most grateful...
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Hi Keith,
My email address is:
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If you contact me direct I can email you a genealogical report and details of sources etc.
All the best,
Gail
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Gail.
Great, I really look forward to contacting you about all this!
Keith
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Keith, if you have a look at this site (http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=97414349&pageid=r&mode=ALL&n=0&query=dynes&SUBMIT=+Find+) you will see a number of links that refer to Dynes in the area, including Seagoe Parish. Hope this is of some help.
Link doesn't seem to be working now
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Scotmum,
Thanks so much for all those lovely links! I really have something to work on now... Plus Gail has sent me a brilliant file of her DYNE's, and I'm going to PM you about that, Gail...
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Hello folks. GerryM of Wisconsin here. New to this site.
I have Sarah Ann Dynes b.1840 d.1925 Clontyclay married Henry Quinn b.1831 d. 1903 Aughamullan.
Have the Quinn side back one more generation. Nothing on the Dynes. Does anyone have Sarah Ann?
Many thanks for your help.
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Hi, Gerry,
I've been away from Rootschat for a while, so sorry it's taken a while to respond. This has been a great thread for me and my tentative first steps with the DYNES. Some extremely helpful people on here, too...
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Hi again, Everyone,
Just an update on here after 18 months or so of silence, but I was yesterday contacted privately by someone directly descended from the DYNES family of Bluestone, so perhaps I might get some kind of joy now with finding a forename for the "Miss DYNES" who married my direct ancestor in 1750...
keith
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Hi Keith,
Good to hear from you and I hope you do get a break-through with your line.
Let us know how it goes.
Thought this snippet from the Craigavon Historical Society may interest you:
Family Names in Lurgan
by P. Creery
From Review - Journal of the Craigavon Historical Society Vol. 1 No. 1
In leases dated about 1624, we find such Irish names as Owen O'Neale, Shane McAlinden, Murtagh McAtananey, Donnell McCawhelly, and, naturally, the inevitable McCanns. After the Williamite wars of 1689-91, we find that these Irish tenants were replaced by English tenants with names like Wilson, Turkington, Irwin, Patterson, Dynes and Robbs.
All the best,
Gail
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Hi again, Gail,
All very interesting...and the gentleman who spoke to me on Sunday told me about a book entitled "Methodism in Portadown" written by a William J. Green, published in 1960 at the cost of 6 shillings. There's a fleeting reference there to my ancestor James KERSHAW.
I'm also writing to another man suggested by the out-of-the-blue phonecaller who apparently knows a good deal about the DYNES family from the early days in Armagh, so suddenly things are beginning to move a little!
keith
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That's all good news, Keith. Do keep us posted.
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Scotmum,
Well, having read through for the umpteenth time the work-in-progress on my ancestor James KERSHAW, b. 1725 d. 1790, I've come across what could be a significant marriage in Gainsborough, Lincs, in 1783 on the IGI for a Mary KERSHAW and a Richard BEAL. Gainsborough was where James settled for a while after leaving the Methodist ministry, and this Mary KERSHAW could well be his daughter, born in Armagh c.1750, and who it is known came to England some time after 1770 to rejoin her father. Richard BEAL was a shopkeeper from Sheffield, and well-known in Methodist circles.
So, the "Miss DYNES" might be a Mary DYNES...
keith
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Came across this transcription from Seagoe Parish Records and thought of you:
Baptism on 1/2/1839
Ellen of Hugh O'NEILE and Mary HEWITT
Sponsor: Mary Ann DYNES
and also a Birth on 24/1/846
Felix of Hugh O'NEILL and Mary HEWITT, 24/01/1846
Sponsors: John DYNES and Rose DYNES
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Scotmum,
So what exactly is the significance of the term: "Sponsor" in these two very interesting cases...?
By the way I was at the Society of Genealogists for a short while on Tuesday, and came across that 1783 marriage entry I mentioned above for Gainsborough.
There was another one, too, in 1787 for a Jane KERSHAW and an Edward SMITH. So perhaps another daughter of my ancestor James KERSHAW who might possibly fit the bill...
keith
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I believe it was the same as being god-parents, so assume the families were friends or relatives.
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Thanks, Scotmum,
And just to say that a member of the current living DYNES family very kindly sent me about 6 female DYNES births from his tree for the 18thC, but unfortunately none of them would quite fit a woman with that family name marrying my ancestor James KERSHAW in the late 1740's/1750.
I feel I'm getting closer, though!
keith
p.s. Though I've just had another look at the e-mail I mentioned above, and they are all baptisms, not births. Not unheard of someone being baptised shortly before being married, I suppose...
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Sorry so much time has passed since the last post, I hope someone can use this info.. My branch of the tree are Australian and come from gr gr grandparents.
John Dynes b 1835 Glencoe, married 1855 in Tartaraghan, Sarah Mackle b 1838 Derrykerb. Her Parents Anna Maria Hendron and Joseph Mackle. John Dynes parents (Alex Dynes and Emily Sullivan) these 2 people are not yet proven.
Cheers,
Jen
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Hi, Jen,
And welcome to Rootschat! Time does pass, doesn't it - I'm amazed to work out that it's nearly 8 years ago that this thread was last active. And thanks very much for your further input into the DYNES family. There's always someone out there who might be able to use the information you provide. When was it that your branch of the family came to Australia?
Keith
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Hi Keith, my lot arrived in Aus in 1856. 5 or 6 descendants from that original couple fought in the 1st world war, one was awarded the military medal a month before passing away, probably from the influenza. His brother was MIA then declared KIA.
This year being the 100 year anniversary I have been able to get lots of fresh information.
I'm working from memory at present as I'm away from my computer for a few days. I'll post more info later in the week.
Cheers,
Jen
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Jen,
How sad, what a sacrifice…
Where exactly is Tartaraghan? Would love to hear more info on your branch of this family.
Keith