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Really finding it hard to get the Penketh line back would be very very grateful if someone could help me.
ELLEN PENKETH - Born abt 1853 in St Helens
Names that might give a clue as to correct Ellen could be John and Catherine.
Thanks
Jonathan Loughlin
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1861 Census RG9/2751/45/20
Address: 19 High Street, Eccleston, St Helens, Lancs.
John Penketh aged 65 Head Married Labourer Copper Works, born Eccleston
Catherine Penketh aged 41 Wife Married born Ireland
Peter Penketh aged 24 Son Single Labourer Copper Works, Born Eccleston
Catherine Penketh aged 15 daughter single Scholar born Eccleston
Ellen Penketh aged 11 Daughter single Scholar born Eccleston
John Penketh aged 8 Son single Scholar born Eccleston
Best wishes
MO
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Can't tell you how much that has helped ;D
WOW! THANKS MOSCAN
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Hello,
It might be nearly four years old but no need creating a new thread when you know you've asked about the same family before. Good old Rootschat, keeping everything :)
I stumbled across a unseen site which has shown up some Penketh's who are certainly related to me but I don't have any record of them. So I've been going through my data and I find its shockingly bare!
As you can see from above, Mo very kindly brought up my Penketh's from the 1861 census.
Could someone be ever so kind and find them using that from above for the '41, 51 and '71 census'
I have Ellen, Catherine and Peter on the 1881 census
Thankyou
Merry Christmas
Jonathan
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Jonathan
I have found them in the 1851 Census listed under 'Ponketh'
Details are:-
6 High Street Eccleston Lancashire
John age 55 Copper Worker born St Helens
Catherine 34 born Ireland
Peter 14 Labourer in Glass Works born Eccleston
Charles 10 Labourer in Glass Works born Eccleston
John 8 born Eccleston
Catherine 4 born Eccleston
Ellen 1 born Eccleston
source: HO107/2195/109
Hope this helps
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and 1941 also
1841 Census High St Eccleston
HO107/516 Folio: 32; Page: 17
John Penketh 35 Labourer b Lancashire
Catherine Penketh 25 b Ireland
Mary Penketh 10 b Lancashire
Peter Penketh 5 do
Charles Penketh 3 do
John Penketh 7 Mo do
Regards
Mariac
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Thankyou you both so very such :)
Merry Christmas
Jonathan
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I found a couple of Penketh snippets ... they mightn't even be your family Jonathan ... but thought I'd post just in case !! ::)
* Snippet ....
04-07-1864
PENKETH James 31 Labourer
Looking out of the cage whilst ascending
08-07-1865 WO.
At an inquest into the death of JAMES PENKETH collier aged 31 years who put his head out
of the cage at the Chain Pit and caught it on a bar the verdict was accidental death.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07ps/
* Snippet ......
Burials for the Independent Chapel St Helens in the Old Mersey Times
March 7th 1830 - Margaret Penketh/St Helens
Annie :)
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Hi,
The address of High Street, Eccleston is interesting as the same address would now be High Street, Prescot.
That thought lead me to this a John Penketh married a Catherine Kelly 17 Nov 1833 at Prescot St Mary - High Street Prescot is about 100 yards from St Mary's Church.
John is described as Labourer, widower of Eccleston and Catherine spinster of Eccleston - both sign X - witnesses Thomas Sallon and Mary Kelly again both sign X
Regards
John
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Hello,
Thats great stuff, John and Annie :)
Trying to peice together my Penketh's and i'm at that annoying point, were you have isolated people who you know are related to you. You just can't link them back.
Take JOHN PENKETH who is buried in the same grave plot as Ellen Penketh and her family (Married name Jackson) - This JOHN PENKETH died in 1907 aged 33 in Prescot district.
None of the John Penketh matches on 1881 census, age wise are any help. With Thomas' and James' for fathers, but I ain't got no such gentlemen in the Penketh family tree.
So indeed Annie, every little snippet helps. That poor James met an unforunate end.
Penketh is not a bad name to search in the right area. I reckons if I collect enough 'snippets' of St Helens Penketh's - I'll have enough to make some sense of it all.
Thanks again
John, You seem to have solved and filled a little question mark that has hung over the Penketh tree...
Now Catherine has a maiden name and they both have a date and place for their marriage. Plus added bonus of witnesses. Also explains the age gap between them, he already having been married.
Merry Christmas to you both
Jonathan
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Any of these boys yours by any chance ?? ::)
Declaration of Trust DDX 112/21 16 Jul. 1869
Contents:
(1) John Penketh of Eccleston, nr. St. Helens, co. Lanc., gent. and wife Grace, (2) James Ricketts of St. Helens, doctor of medicine, and wife Grace Langsdale, (3) James Penketh of St. Helens, timber merchant, John Crossley of Ravenshead, nr. St. Helens, glass manufacturer.
By a settlement Aug. 1867, £13,578 (together with £2750 arising from sale of property in Sefton St., Liverpool) was invested in name of Michael Lea of Liverpool, whitecooper, exor. of Thomas Langdale of West Derby, co. Lanc., gent., for benefit of Grace Langsdale Ricketts, her husband and children. Money was placed in mortgages of various properties in Tranmere and Litherland nr. Liverpool.
(3) Now declare that they hold these mortgages in trust for the sd. Grace Langsdale Ricketts.
Schedule of property investments in Kingsley (Peel Hall Estate), Tranmere and Liverpool, co. Lanc., making total of £16, 328.
Wit. William F. Morecroft, solicitor, Liverpool, Peers Naylor, clerk, St. Helens.
[no title] DDX 112/22 1885, 1878
Contents:
Probate (Liverpool) of Grace Penketh of Eccleston, nr. St. Helens, co. Lancs., wid. Will: 27 Mar. 1878. Pr. 27 May 1885.
Bequeathes all personal estate to dau. Grace Langsdale Ricketts, wife of James Ricketts of St. Helens, surgeon. Devises all real estate to exors. to sell and invest for use of sd. Grace and her children, if any.
Exors: James Penketh of St. Helens, timber merchant and John Crosby of Ravenhead nr. St. Helens, glass manufacturer.
Wit: W.F. Morecroft, solicitor, F.H. Jacob of St. Helens.
Codicil 20 Oct. 1884, appointing sd. Grace extrix. in place of James Penketh dec..
Wit: W.F. Morecroft, M.L. Hare of Eccleston, co. Lanc., governess.
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More snippets ...... ;) are these any good ?
1871
Back Of Pilkington's Row, Sutton, St Helens
ACKERS, William Head M 56 1815 Granton
ACKERS, Ellen Wife F 55 1816 Lancashire
PENKETH, George Step-Son M 18 1853 Lancashire
PENKETH, John Step-Son M 16 1855 Lancashire
PENKETH, Rd Step-Son M 11 1860 Lancashire
RG10/3866/128/24
1881
37 Railway St Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire
Fredk. GILL Head M Male 36 Ridding, Derby Engine Fitter At Wks
Margt. GILL Wife M Female 39 Manchester, Lancashire
Susannah OWEN Step Dau U Female 16 Crewe, Cheshire
Elizth.Mary GILL Dau Female 6 Crewe, Cheshire
Arthur S. GILL Son Male 3 Crewe, Cheshire
Richd.E. PENKETH Lodger U Male 20 St Helens, Lancashire Appce Engine Fitter At Wks
RG11/3543 / 101/41
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if you search on this site http://www.lan-opc.org.uk you will find various Penketh snippets