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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: Shari on Wednesday 22 September 04 10:57 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am new to the site and I think it is great, I hope someone will be able to help me with my research, my 4th great grandfather William White was born in Sussex and he married Ann Thatcher they had 3 children that I know of William, Sarah and Ann, I am hoping to get any info on this family even parents and family of William and Ann,
Thank You
Shari, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
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Hi Shari
Welcome to Rootschat
We hope that your stay with us will be beneficial in helping you further your family history research.
Right, after saying that, Sussex is a big county and we need a bit more info where to start looking for them, their ages and an idea of their birth dates.
William White married Ann Thatcher - any idea where in Sussex or what date
They had 3 children - what are their forenames, where were they born and about what year
The more you can tell me, the better I am to help you
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
Thank you for your reply, I have am told only that William was Born in Sussex, no date of birth, no date or place of birth for Ann, they were married in All Saints Sussex on October 10 1761, their children were all born in Hastings Sussex, William in January 1762, Sarah 1765, and Ann 1767, William married a Sarah Tolhurst born in Westfield, I am told they were publicans of an inn called The Kings Head Inn at Ore from 1832 to 1834, they gave it away when William became ill and he died November 13 1837 at Ore,
Any info you can gather would be very much appreciated, from what I have read you have done wonders for other people.
Cheers
Shari
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Shari,
And Chris, if I may help out here, before handing over to you.
William White bach m Ann Thatcher sp botp (B)
Hastings All Saints, East Sussex 1 Oct 1761:
bach
Witnesses: Wm.THATCHER; John PHILLIPS
The second is as follows:
Hastings All Saints, East Sussex, 14 May 1787:
William WHITE & Sarah TELHURST
No further info.
I think this is your territory, Chris. ;)
Nell
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No, sorry, Shari, I don't. I was just able to look up the marriage for you.
Nell
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Hi Shari
Firstly, thank you Little Nell for providing that information.
By coincidence I live in Ore Village, not too far from the Kings Head Inn, so am pretty well familiar with the area. Will take a walk up there tomorrow and take a picture of the pub.
Not far from me is the Old St Helens Church, Ore, which is now a ruin and the churchyard is overgrown.
I visited it last week in order to look at what condition it is in (see picture below) and to see if I could re - transcribe the stones and take digital pictures of them before the vandals destroy everything.
Looking through my transcription notes done in the last few days, I found the following in Old St Helens
Memorial No 36
Sacred/ to the memory of/ Sarah/ wife of William White/ who departed this life/ May 9th 1827/ aged 60 years/ also of/ William White/ who departed this life/ November 11th 1837/ age 72 years/
Now - isnt that a coincidence - will take a picture of the stone in the next few days and post it on here for you.
In the meantime, will try to see if I can find anything else out for you - fingers crossed
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Shari
Been looking through the baptisms for children of William & Ann
A/S = All Saints
S/C = St Clements
Whilst I have the same names as you - I have different dates
A/S - William, 2nd Feb 1766
A/S - Sarah, 14th Jul, 1762
A/S - Ann, 8th Feb 1764
Possible children of William & Sarah taken from the Baptism Register are:
A/S - Sarah, 13th Jan 1788
S/C - Thomas, 20th Nov 1792
S/C - Joseph, 1st Mar 1795
S/C - James, 13th Mar 1796
S/C - Robert, 28th Apr, 1799
A/S - Ann, 5th Apr 1801
S/C - George, 29th Jun 1804
A/S - Thomas, 8th Oct 1806
S/C - Barbara, 17th Jul 1807
Looking at later baptisms, it would appear that Thomas, Joseph, James and Robert all married and produced children.
Hope the above helps you a bit
Chris in 1066Land
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Chris, can I say what a beautiful church that is! Is there no preservation society that can do something about it, or are you IT? Such a shame, it looks very old, Norman?
Jane
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Hi there Jane
The Sussex Heritage Trust has undertaken responsibility for this scheduled ancient monument and Hastings Area Archaeological Research Group (HAARG) of which I am a member are keeping a daily watch on the site.
But is still does not stop things like this happening - and if you imagine the weight of that table top tomb lid - it must be nie on impossible to do this.
Are we getting intervention from other powerful forces?
Incidentally, The favourite saint of Offa, King of Mercia, who conquered Hastings in 771 was St Helen, and it has been suggested that this may explain the dedication of this ancient parish church - so it is very very old.
Chris in 1066Land
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So glad to hear that there is something being done about the church, thanks to people like you Chris!
Jane
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Hi Shari
Visited St Helens old church today and photographed your 'White' ancestors headstone.
Hope you find the picture suitable for your ancestral files.
Was unhappy to see a lot of vandalism has occured over the weekend and the old Church has been entered.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
Thank you so much for the photo of the White's tomb stone, it is great and I can still make out some of the etchings on it. I have put it into my family tree album.
I would be grateful for any info on the family of 4 of their children Joseph, James, Robert & Thomas, wifes & children.
Also is there any history to the Old St Helen Church? I have a photo of the Old KIngs Head Inn but am unsure to wether it is the right inn.
Thank you for all your help.
Shari.
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Hi again
I am attempting to put together some data on the history of St Helens Church - so will contact you in due course with that; in the meantime I will try and find more on their children
Chris in 1066Land
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Little Nell
Can you furnish me with any information from the pre 1837 marriages for the White Children listed below by Shari, i.e - Joseph, James, Robert & Thomas.
Then I can attempt to follow them into the census records
Anticipating a positive reply and saying thankyou in advance
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
Sure, this is what I have found:
Joseph - only possible around the Hastings area and assuming a marriage age 20 - 30.
Hastings St. Clement, East Sussex, 14 Apr 1814
Joseph WHITE & Sarah HOSE
No other details.
James - similar criteria
Hastings All Saints, East Sussex, 26 Jul 1816:
James WHITE & Sarah DUNGATE, (St/Mary inCastle)
Robert - similar criteria
Hastings All Saints, East Sussex, 27 Aug 1820:
Robert WHITE & Elizabeth BAKER
George:
Ore, East Sussex, 19 Jun 1821:
George WHITE & Frances IGGULDEN
(This is really a bit unlikely but included because it is in the correct area)
Thomas:
Hastings St. Clement, East Sussex, 30 Nov 1834:
Thomas WHITE & Naomi Jane PADGHAM
Fairlight, East Sussex, 20 Apr 1835:
Thomas WHITE, bach & Ann GLADISH, sp botp (B)
Hastings All Saints, East Sussex, 25 Oct 1835
Thomas WHITE & Jane JOHNSON
Fairlight, East Sussex, 22 Apr 1839:
Thomas WHIGHT, bach coachmaker St.Mary Hastings & Ann BREEDS, sp otsp (B)
(wrong spelling, but the profession may be of assistance in case someone made a mistake)
There do not seem to be any others in the Hastings area. There are a number in West Sussex and as far as Newhaven and Brighton in East Sussex, but they do not indicate if the groom was from outside the parish. If you would like any other possibles, let me know, and I'll come back to it later. I need to cook himself dinner!
Nell
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Update on the last post,
Another three possibles for James:
Battle, East Sussex, 26 Jan 1824:
James WHITE, bach & Jane ALLEN, sp botp (B)
Extra Information: Witness wit: Mewrcy ALLEN; Richd.WHITE
Ore, East Sussex, 21 Nov 1825:
James WHITE, HT & Rachel WHITE, otsp
Hollington, East Sussex, 11 May 1828:
James WHITE, bach Holy Trinity & Ann FAIRALL, sp otsp (B)
Another possible for Robert:
Fairlight, East Sussex, 23 Sep 1833:
Subject: Robert WHITE, bach & Joanna EDWARDS, sp botp (B)
And another for Thomas:
Battle, East Sussex, 8 Apr 1833:
Thomas WHITE, bach & Frances CRAMP, sp botp (B)
Extra Information: Witness wit; Jane & Jas.C.
Nell
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Little Nell & Shari
Firstly, Little Nell - thank you for all that information, appreciate that
Shari - can you positively identify ancestors from the information that Little Nell has provided, if so, I will try to follow them through the Baptisms in Hasting (some 430 entries)
What worries me is the lack of White baptisms at Ore which is where I would have expected to find them.
Most seem to be in All Saints and St Clements - the old town of Hastings.
Are we sure we will be following the correct ones?
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris & Nell,
Firstly, thank you so much for all the help you are giving me, all I have on James White is that he was born in 1796 I have no birth place for him his siblings as below;
Sarah born January 9, 1788 married Richard Selden in 1809 still have to find children for them.
William born 1790 married Rebecca Mills. children yet to be found
Thomas born 1792 died 1813
Stephen born 1794 married Margaret (Peggy Vass in 1821.
Joseph born March 7, 1795 no other info.
James born 1796 no other info
Robert born March 28, 1799 married Elizabeth Baker 1820 had a son James born February 1824 he married Elizabeth ?
Anne born April 5, 1801 married John Boyce 1817 children yet to be found
George born June 29 1804 married Frances Iggulden 1821
Barbara born July 17, 1807 married Charles baker 1826 yet to find children
I do have a James White born Feb 20, 1824 he married Elizabeth ? and as far as I know they had a son Harry born 1873.
I am told a lot of the family left Ore-hastings to live elsewhere not real certain of the areas.
Can you please explain the abbreviations (botp B and otsp B)
Thank you both
Shari
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Hi once again Chris,
I have just been informed that William & Sarah (nee Tolhurst) White had their children baptised either at All Saints or St Clements, as did most of all the White families, hope this helps.
Shari
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Hi Shari
Yes, that helps - but I am doing my one day at work today - so will look for you this evening when I get home
Hope that is ok
botp - I know means Both of this Parish
B means Banns, they were married after the calling of Banns
otsp - not sure; over to you little nell on this one
Chris in 1066Land
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Good morning all,
otsp means "of the same parish".
Nell
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Little Nell
dooohh - now why didnt I think of that
Thanks Nell
Chris in 1066Land
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Shari
Been looking through the All Saints & St Clement Baptisms for your Whites with the following results:
William (Sailor) & Rebecca - Non Found
Stephen (Sailor) & Margaret:
Ore - Margaret, 5 Jul 1827 (born 23 Jul 1824)
Ore - Sarah, 5 Jul 1827 (born 10 July 1826)
Ore - Stephen, 5 Jul 1827 (born 28 Dec 1822)
Ore - Ann, 6 Jul 1828 (father Stephen is now Labourer)
Ore - William, 6 Feb 1831
Robert (Fisherman) & Elizabeth
SC - Mary Ann, 4 May 1821
SC - Robert, 6 Sep 1822
SC - James, 20 Feb 1824
James & Elizabeth - Non found
George (Butcher) & Francis
SC - Frances, 8 Oct 1824
SC - Sarah, 3 Nov 1826 (father listed as Milkman)
SC - Mary, 3 Sep 1830 (milkman)
Hope that is agreeable and helps your research
Chris in 1066Land
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Shari
Continuing the search for 'White' females who married others
Sarah & Richard Selden (Grocer)
SC - Mary, 31 Dec 1813
SC - William, 28 Jan 1816 (Seldon)
SC - Stephen, 8 Mar 1818
SC - Mary Ann, 8 Apr 1821
SC - George, 22 Mar 1822
SC - James, 7 May 1824
SC - Thomas, 19 Jun 1829
SC - Charlotte, 20 Apr 1827 (Seldon)
Ann & John Boyce (Milkman)
OR - Ann, 13 Sep 1818
OR - John, 23 Jul 1820
OR - Sarah Frances, 4 Aug 1822
OR - Elizabeth, 6 Jun 1824
Barbara & Charles Baker (Labourer)
OR - Charles James, 5 Aug 1827
AS - William, 26 Aug 1829 (now at Guestling)
AS - George, 3 Aug 1831 (Guestling)
AS - Alfred, 30 Oct 1833 (Guestling)
Thats all I could find
Registers were
Ore - 1700 - 1837
All Saints - 1700 - 1851
St Clements - 1700 - 1869
Chris in 1066Land
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Chris,
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, what a great surprise to find all the info you have sent to me, you have made my day, I really appreciate all you have done, and you have more than helped.
I did have a photo of The Kings Head Inn at Ore, somehow I have misplaced it so won't know if it was the right building as I have been told there was more than one with the same name, thank you also for helping me with the abbreviations and thank you also to Nell,
When you have some time can you please let me know when the Old St Helens Church was built, would love to know.
Thank you agian
Cheers
Shari.
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Shari
Have been going through my books to see what I could find out about the Old Church - this is the sum total of that research:
St Helens Old Church, Ore
When King Offa conquered the men of Hastings in 771, it is thought that he founded the church of St Helens at Ore as his favourite saint was St Helen, mother of the Roman Emperor Constantine.
This Old Church of St Helens, Ore, built of Hastings Sandstone in the 8th century, was replaced by the present church in 1868 because it was stated that “The whole interior is so damp and wretched that parishioners are prevented from attending”, and a vestry meeting of 1868 decided that “It is in a most unsatisfactory state of repair, the roof being in a bad condition, requiring immediate and thorough reparation, both as regards the main timbers and the retiling, amounting to entire reproofing. That the main walls are in places, so falling over, that if the roof were removed it would be necessary to rebuild it in parts”
It was also discovered that ground level outside the church at the north east was now three feet above the floor of the church, consequently a faculty was obtained to build a new church on a nearby site utilizing suitable material from the old one. A ruined portion of the old St Helens still survives today together with some of the tombstones in the Old Churchyard.
It was also thought in 1868 that Architecturally there was little to preserve apart from the arches, windows and the Tower, the rest having already been modernized and spoilt – therefore it was proposed to remove stone that was re-useable, but leave the Old Church looking ‘Picturesque’
The surviving parts of the church suggest that it is of early Norman or Saxon origin – this can be clearly seen in the north wall of the nave where a small window of nine inches wide is seen, giving a probable date of 1150 or before; and although the church shows evidence of much alteration, it would appear that the tower is of late 12th or 13th century.
At the top of Elphinstone road is the Borough Cemetery, this was the original Ore Cemetery before they built the road cutting it off from the church and then extended it to form the Borough Cemetery. Just above where the modern B&Q DIY store is situated on Winchelsea road is ‘Ore Cemetery’ – known as the ‘Ore Burial Ground’ because the parish of Ore was made responsible for burying the dead of the workhouse and to meet the increased demand for graves, a new cemetery was opened in Winchelsea Road in 1855.
In the 1851 Religious Census of the Country, it was stated that Ore Parish Church had 430 seats, of which 300 were free (i.e, not paid for by parishoners, so anyone could sit in them)
The churchyard contains the family vault of General Murray, conqueror of the Canada’s and builder of Beauport Park
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
Thank you for the info on the St Helens Old Church, very interesting so sad to see it in such disrepair, must have been beautiful in it's day at least some of it is still standing if only a part of it.
Vandals have no respect for anything, but I just can't understand the vandalism on churches and historic buildings, and worse... people steal from churches...so sad.
Thank You
Shari
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Hi Chris,
Would you have any history on the Kings Head Inn - Ore? would like to learn something about it, when built etc.
Thank You in advance
Shari
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Hi Shari
Will have to consult the 'Oracle' on that one
Will come back to you
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
Thanks heaps will look forward to it.
Shari
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Hi Shari
Have just received a long e-mail concerning your ancestors from another source - copied in full below.
If you would like to send me your e-mail address (via private message) I will pass it on to the writer of the e-mail who can contact you direct.
This is that e-mail
Hello Chris,
I have just had a quick look at the Rootschat, and thank you for the info of
what you hold. However, quickly glancing through the messages, I would like
to point out a slight error in your response to Shari. you have the point
that Joseph married to Sarah, but it is not the Joseph s/o William and
Sarah, as he did not marry under the name Joseph.
The Joseph that married Sarah HOSE in 1814 is in fact the s/o James and
Bridget.
A friend and I did a lot of work on this family about three/four years back
and Joseph s/o Sarah should have been entered as Stephen, and you will find
Stephen's second marriage to Margaret ANDERSON in Ore 5 July 1827. His
first marriage being on Tristan da Cunha, the date eludes me at the moment,
but it is thought that William wouldn't recognise the marriage.
This was all sorted out with the help of a will and other sources, but out
of interest, Stephen would never collected the £50.00 left to him, as he had
to return in person within six months to collect it, and as he was over in
OZ at the time, it wouldn't have been possible, even if he had known about
it.
If it is possible and Shari could contact me directly, I can put her in
touch with other descendants of Stephen, who are over in Tasmania as well as
other places in OZ.
Sincere regards,
Frances
Over to you
Chris in 1066Land
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Hello Sussex,
I am new to the site and I think it is great, I hope someone will be able to help me with my research, my 4th great grandfather William White was born in Sussex and he married Ann Thatcher they had 3 children that I know of William, Sarah and Ann, I am hoping to get any info on this family even parents and family of William and Ann,
Thank You
Shari,
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I am also looking for a family (WHITE) that came from FERNHURST , her name was Joan white and she married LESLIE WILFRED SELBY the 20th february 1943 at the ST MARGARET CHURCH the best man was ARTHUR HOLDEN . They had the reception at the village hall.
any information would be appreciated.
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Hello, I have just joined the site after seeing this post regarding my grandfather. He is Leslie Wilfred Selby and my grandmother in Joan White. I am interested in any information on the Selby's in particular my great grandfather.
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Hi Robin, I saw your reply about your grandparents. I was actually in contact with my great uncle Leslie before he passed away. I have been in contact with his son Leslie jr.I will send you a private message ok.
kind regards
charby
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Sarah Tolhurst wife of William White is my 4th great Aunt. Some years ago I and another descendant of Sarah's brother James spent a lot of time on the family.
The transcript I have of William's will refers to William as a yeoman of Ore. He left £5 to William White, Stephen White, James White, Robert White, George White, Sarah the wife of Richard Sheldon, Ann the wife of John Boys, and Barbara the wife of Charles Baker; to be paid 6 months after his death. All his messuages, lands, tenements, hereditaments and real estate whatsoever and wheresoever was left to sons in law Richard Sheldon and Charles Baker tenants in common.
the will was made 24 Jan 1837 and proved 2 Feb 1838, the value being no more than £300.
Jo
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Hi Chris, this is a very old thread so I'm not sure whether anyone will see it (I'm new to rootschat).
I believe I may be a descendent of Stephen White and Margaret Vass and am trying to do some digging around on their lives after arriving in Van Deamons Land (Tasmania).
I note that Frances in her quoted email refers to Margaret Vass as 'Margaret ANDERSON'. I wonder if that is just a typo or is there another name I'm not aware of? I've only ever encountered the family name 'Vass' in connection with Margaret.
I'm also keen to learn anything about Margaret's family. She is said to have been born in either Bombay or Madrass.
Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Rowan (ozone).
Hi Shari
Have just received a long e-mail concerning your ancestors from another source - copied in full below.
If you would like to send me your e-mail address (via private message) I will pass it on to the writer of the e-mail who can contact you direct.
This is that e-mail
Hello Chris,
I have just had a quick look at the Rootschat, and thank you for the info of
what you hold. However, quickly glancing through the messages, I would like
to point out a slight error in your response to Shari. you have the point
that Joseph married to Sarah, but it is not the Joseph s/o William and
Sarah, as he did not marry under the name Joseph.
The Joseph that married Sarah HOSE in 1814 is in fact the s/o James and
Bridget.
A friend and I did a lot of work on this family about three/four years back
and Joseph s/o Sarah should have been entered as Stephen, and you will find
Stephen's second marriage to Margaret ANDERSON in Ore 5 July 1827. His
first marriage being on Tristan da Cunha, the date eludes me at the moment,
but it is thought that William wouldn't recognise the marriage.
This was all sorted out with the help of a will and other sources, but out
of interest, Stephen would never collected the £50.00 left to him, as he had
to return in person within six months to collect it, and as he was over in
OZ at the time, it wouldn't have been possible, even if he had known about
it.
If it is possible and Shari could contact me directly, I can put her in
touch with other descendants of Stephen, who are over in Tasmania as well as
other places in OZ.
Sincere regards,
Frances
Over to you
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Rowan
First of all welcome to Rootschat and especially the Sussex Boards - nice to have you with us.
Hopefully you will get a reply from others on this thread even though it was started some 6 years ago
Chris in 1066
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Hello Chris,
I'm new to rootschat and in 2004 you and others had disscussed the White family in in some detail, and I'm a decendent of william and sarah and then through the stephen and margaret line and I had a few questions for you. I was wondering where I might be able to view birth and marriage records of the white family and also how I might be able to get in contact with Frances who it seem sent you an email clarifying a little mix up and she said that her source was a will, how might i view that will, she alluded to stephen white being born as joseph white?
any help would be great.
Thank you
Seth (Tasmania, Australia)
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My name is Irene Schaffer I live in Hobart Tasmania. I have been researching the White family for over 15 years and have just completed a book called "The Sea Shall Not Have Them" its the story of Stephen White who was shipwrecked off the Blenden Hall on Inaccessable Island near Tristan da Cunha in 1821. I can be contacted from my website
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Regards
Irene Schaffer
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My name is Irene Schaffer I live in Hobart Tasmania. I have been researching the White family for over 15 years and have just completed a book called "The Sea Shall Not Have Them" its the story of Stephen White who was shipwrecked off the Blenden Hall on Inaccessable Island near Tristan da Cunha in 1821. I can be contacted from my website - http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi or by email
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Irene Schaffer
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Hello Shari, I have been unable to use the Personal Message system on this site, hence I could not reply to your message. Might there be another means to exchange information? I hope that you get this message, Sorry for the troubles.
Seth.
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Hi swool
You need at least two posts to activate the personal message system so it should work for you now. Click on the green scroll under Shari's name.
Andrea
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Hi All,
I have recently started doing my Tree and have come across Margaret Vass ? and Stephen White.
Reading your forum I have found that I'm another 4th Generation Great-Grandchild also doing the same Tree, different Branch.
Stephen White born 1821-22 is my 3rd Great Grandfather.
I'm looking for someone to swap information with in regards to the English Branches. or Anything on Margaret Vass (or whichever name she seems to go under)
Any Help would be Muchly Appreciated.
Thanks for your time.
Morgan.
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Hi,
I know this is an old thread, revived and now getting old again but you have to try these things sometimes. :-\
Was Margaret Vass who 'married' Stephen White on Tristan Da Cunha in a ceremony by an unauthorised official the same person as Margaret ANDERSON who married Stephen White in Ore on 05 July 1827?
They left Tristan Da Cunha in 1826 so seems very plausible.
I'm researching a man who is sometimes called LIND and sometimes ANDERSON, he deserted from a whaler in 1839 and raised a family on Tristan Da Cunha. Which of course is 13 years after Stephen and Peggy left but there are a few mysteries about him so I'm looking into everything even if to eliminate false trails.
Would love to hear from anyone who has researched this before me. Especially, if it is so, why she used that surname?
Irene
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Stephen and Peggy met each other just before the rescue ship arrived at Tristan Da Cuhna. Peggy was a Maid that had travelled with her lady boss. They had travelled from India to England, and were travelling back to India, when the ship burnt out. They were rescued by "The Endevour" and that ship took them to Endurance Island. There were a few inhabitants that lived on "Tristan Da Cuhna", and a few people at a time were taken from Endurance to Tristan. There were 80+ passengers in total that were moved . After a few months a ship came to pick up the people , stuck on the island.By now Stephen and Peggy had met each other on the Island. 8 men were staying behind on Tristan. They ware to check out how habitable Tristan Da Cuhna was, and worked with the few locals. As the resque ship was getting ready to leave with the rest of the survivers, Stephen asked Mr Glass, (The Man in Charge) would Peggy be allowed to stay with him, if she accepted. Mr Glass said yes and Peggy was taken off the ship by her own concent. They were in love. William glass was a ships Captain and was allowed to Marry, Stephen and Peggy. They then had their first 3 children on Tristan Da Cunha. Stephen, Margaret and Sarah. Born 1822, 1824, 1826. In 1827 the work had finished and they sailed back to England. Stephens Father, William, was extremely angry with Stephen. Stephen had bought home a wife and 3 Children He had been legally Married in 1822, but it wasn't blessed by God. William insisted that they Marry again, in a Church. so they did in 1827. Peggy was then pregnant again so they waited for Ann to be born in Suffox and then made the decision to leave England. They immigrated to Tasmania, Australia on the "Blendan Hall" They settled and then continued to have 5 more Children
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1822
Age: 28
Tristan Da Cunha
Stephen had arranged for Peggy to leave the ship and return to the island. They were later married by William Glass. It was the first marriage on the island
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Marriage to Margaret Peggy Vass
1827
5 Jul
Age: 33
Ore, Hastings, Sussex, England
Stephen White Married Margaret VASS on 5 July 1827 at Ore, Hastings, Sussex, England, during a holiday to see his Father back in England. They already had their first 3 children, and Stephens Father insisted on the Christian Marriage, for Children
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Stephen and Peggy are my 4th Great Grandparents.
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Stephen WHITE (1794 - 1854)
is your 4th great grandfather
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son of Catherine Brooks Brogan
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Hi to all who have posted on this family information. I am a descendant as follows
William White m Ann Thatcher
Their first child William White m Sarah Telhurst/Tolhurst
Their 3rd child Joseph aka Stephen White m Peggy/Margaret Anderson/Vass.
Their 5th child William White m Charlotte
3rd child Charles White m 2nd wife Florence Wardle
Charles 5th child, Florence 2nd son Stephen George White m Versa Helen Skinner
1st child is me.
I am in UK and came down to Hastings yesterday. I was able to find the tombstone for William White at Old St Helens Church at Ore with many thanks to Chris at 1066 land photos. The cemetery had been recently whipper snipped.
Helen
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Hi Lynette,
I am also a descendant of Stephen White & Peggy Vass (or Anderson) via one of their daughters Ann. You have that the family came to Tasmania on the Blendan Hall. The Blendan Hall was the ship that they were on, that ended up on Tristan DÁchuna.
The family went back to England aboard the Norwegian whaling ship "Duke of Gloucester" in December 1826. This ship had previously taken two of the Glass children to Cape Town in March of 1826 to complete their education.
The ship that the family sailed on to Tasmania was the "Rubicon", in 1832.
Cheers
Webby
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Hi All, I am very late to this party! I'm not sure how I've been missing this post for all these years.
I'm a descendant of William White and Sarah Telhurt through their youngest, Barbara and her husband Charles Baker.
I'm not sure if anyone knows this but the Kings head was sold in Feb of this year 2019. It was set to be torn down to make way for a new 12 home building/buildings. I'm not sure if it's already gone but just wanted to sure.
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Hello kshaw
The pub has gone.
New houses already have roofs on.
Google Ivy Gardens,Park Lane Group.
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Oh, what a shame.
I'm in Scotland, I found out about the families link to the Inn a few years ago. At the time it was still a pub and doing business. I had been planning to go see it but life is busy and kept getting in the way. My grandma (95 years old) is Barbara White and Charles Baker's 2 x great-granddaughter (William White & Sarah Telhurst's 3 x). I was hoping to get some pictures of it, and hopefully even photos of the inside. So sad, it's my own fault for putting it off.
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Hello kshaw
You could email Hastings Reference Library,they are very helpful or the Local Paper ,Hastings Observer
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