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Title: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: muckypup on Tuesday 14 February 06 18:03 GMT (UK)
Trying to trace the Stevenson family from  Cullen / Keith / Rathven the majority of the males were masons to trade.

I have traced the line from me back to them in 1710 and forward to the Cox family in Provo Utah USA.....

Now to fill in all the blank spaces for the rest of the family.

If anyone else is tracing Stevenson please get in touch   

TIA.... Rob
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: runner on Tuesday 14 February 06 20:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Rob

Although I am not looking for Stevensons there is a site which might add to you research.
It covers Port Gordon, Rathven and Enzie and has a mass of genealogical information on all the families from the Enzie parish area.
  rgu-sim.rgu.ac.uk/history/family_history.htm (http://rgu-sim.rgu.ac.uk/history/family_history.htm)

I was able to find three generations of my Hendry family, including my grandfathers marriage into the lines there.
The whole site is fascinating so don't get sidetracked and lost in it.

Have fun

Russell
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Magian on Monday 20 February 06 15:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have some Stevenson's from Cullen on my side

Joseph Stevenson married Janet Strachan 7/3/1776, Banff, Cullen
Alexander born 26/10/1778, Cullen
Alexander Steveson married Elspet Sim 16/12/1809, Deskford
Helen Stevenson born 9/6/1909, Cullen
Helen married Alexander Forbes 1837

Does this ring any bells?

Margaret
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: muckypup on Monday 20 February 06 19:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Margaret      :D We have a connection...

Alexander Stevenson who  married to Helen Andrew 16th June 1738

Children
Joseph ... born Jan 1748 married Janet Strachan ..born 15 Jun 1750

Children
Margaret.......born1782 married James Stevenson...my line
Isobel...........born1777 married Neil McKinnon
Helen...........born1780
Alexander.....born1778 married Elspet Sim
Joseph.........born1786 married Margaret Simpson
James..........born1789
Anne............born1794 married John Kemp


Regards    Rob


Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Magian on Wednesday 22 February 06 18:09 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Rob.

This all connects into the Forbes line which is my mother's family. They were all stonemasons from Cullen.

If I find out anything more on Alexander Stevenson and Helen Andrew I'll let you know.

Margaret
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Seonaid C on Tuesday 28 February 06 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hello,
         I have a Helen Stevenson bn 9th Jun 1809 daugter of Alexander Stevenson and Elspet Sim.Helen married a William Forbes and had the following children
Helen bn 1835 mar. Alex. Souter
William bn 1840 d Apr 1858 aged 16
Alexander bn 1844 mar Eliza Constant 1866
Catherine bn 1847 mar John Thom 1866
John bn 1830 mar Jane Anderson
Elspet bn 1838
Margaret bn 1833
William Forbes and Helen Stevenson were my husbands great x 3 grandparents.Helen died 6th Oct 1863 aged 54 at Deskford Street,Cullen and William died 27th Feb 1884 aged 77 at Deskford Street,Cullen.

Seonaid
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: muckypup on Wednesday 01 March 06 20:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Margaret and Seonaid,

Looks like we are all connected
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Relatively Northern on Tuesday 03 April 12 16:39 BST (UK)
Hi Rob,

Just found your post by chance. Helen Stevenson is my 4x great grandmother on my mum's side. I've traced Stevensons back to 1718 through Helen.

Regards,

Laura
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Thursday 14 June 18 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi Laura
Stevenson, Forbes & Constant are part of my tree too
Louise
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Fordyce on Friday 15 June 18 23:04 BST (UK)
Just to add that although I'm not tracing these Stevensons *, I have noted that Catherine Forbes (bn 1847) had an illegitimate son William Strachan bn 30-4-1869 Cullen by James Strachan who was illeg son of William Strachan & Helen Garden then Gardiner. William Strachan was clearly brought up by his mother. He married twice, lived at Lintmill and Ellieside, and died in 1953.

James Strachan leads back to my 5xgtgdparents James Clark & Elspet Andrew. Helen Garden is sister to Elizabeth Garden then Gardiner who married George Geddes s/o of my 3xgtgdparents Peter Geddes & Margaret Reid. And yes, the surname did change from Garden to Gardiner throughout the family - it happened sometime between 1825 and 1841.

* Margaret Stevenson d/o Alexander Stevenson & Helen McKenzie married my gtgduncle shipmaster James Watson 15 Jun 1881 at Lintmill where they stayed, latterly at Ellieside, until at least his death in 1928. Alexander Stevenson was a mason at Lintmill so I expect that's another connection. James Watson's ship Jane Shearer foundered in 1894; its remains can still be seen at very low tides outside Cullen Harbour wall right in the corner by the shore.
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Sunday 17 June 18 22:05 BST (UK)
Hi Fordyce
Oh the plot thickens!
Just to clarify that this is Catherine Forbes born 21/4/1847 to Wiiliam Forbes and Helen Stevenson?
I have recorded that Catherine married John Thom in 1866
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Fordyce on Monday 18 June 18 08:31 BST (UK)
Loobs, Yes.

Catherine Forbes married John Thom not in 1866 but in 1872 (it's in the IGI). ScotlandsPeople's Index ref: M-1872-167(Seafield)-4.

Catherine Forbes married a second time, to John Innes Allan in 1899. ScotlandsPeople's Index ref for her death D-1925-150(Cullen)-16 shows her as Catherine Forbes and Thom and Allan.

William Strachan's Birth Registration has him born 30 Apr 1869 Deskford St, Cullen.
He appears with his still unmarried mother (Kitty Forbes) and her father in the 1871 census and again with his mother now married (Catherine Thom) and her father in 1881 and again in 1891 as John Thom's 'wife's son'.


Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Monday 18 June 18 17:18 BST (UK)
Hi Fordyce
Thanks for this. I don't know how I got the date wrong!
I descend from Catherine's brother William Forbes
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Fordyce on Tuesday 19 June 18 14:38 BST (UK)
Loobs, you're welcome.

As a slight aside, I had a look a Alexander Stevenson h/o Helen McKenzie, and easily enough found he was the son of James Stevenson & Margaret Stevenson. But I also found there were two couples both names James Stevenson & Margaret Stevenson! One was 'our' mason in Lintmill/Cullen and the other was a farmer in Boyndie/Banff. Several Stevenson researchers have got two families mixed up.

Mason James Stevenson (h/o Margaret Stevenson) was born in Keith and was with his son Alexander at Lintmill in both 1851 and 1861 censuses. It's fairly obvious he died there - I haven't looked that up. Farmer James Stevenson (h/o Margaret Stevenson) was born in Boyndie and farming in Oldtown of Ord, Banff in 1851 and 1861, thus proving there were two different families.

A trap laid that caught several out!
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Tuesday 19 June 18 19:05 BST (UK)
Hi Fordyce
I wonder if I am way off track. I need to look seriously at my tree

Joseph Stevenson married Janet Strachan 7/3/1776. They had 7 children including Helen Stevenson (9/6/1809)

Maybe I need to populate the children to get this correct?
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 19 June 18 21:48 BST (UK)
Joseph Stevenson married Janet Strachan 7/3/1776. They had 7 children including Helen Stevenson (9/6/1809)
That seems a long time after the marriage - 33 years between marriage and birth of a child.
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Wednesday 20 June 18 08:13 BST (UK)
I have taken a wrong turning!!
I need to return to this and refigure. You have been a great help. Thank you ;D
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Fordyce on Wednesday 20 June 18 08:41 BST (UK)
Loobs, I agree with Forfarian.

Earlier in the thread, 'muckypup' lists seven children to Joseph Stevenson & Janet Strachan from 1777 to 1794. Both 'Magian' and 'Seonaid C' show Helen Stevenson born 9-6-1809 to their son Alexander Stevenson & Elspet Sim.

You've skipped a generation. Most of the information about these families is in the IGI so I suggest you verify the structure of your tree against the current RootsChat thread as an initial step and then against the IGI.

I've picked up more than enough to establish the relationship between Catherine Forbes (b 1847) and Margaret Stevenson (b 1854) the two who married relatives of mine, so I have no need to follow through these Stevenson further. Others in the thread clearly have far more information - you could always contact them via a PM.

Actually, you maybe have a bigger issue. You said that you are descended from Catherine's brother William, namely William Forbes s/o William Forbes & Helen Stevenson. But I've just spotted a death registration attached to an Ancestry tree that shows that Catherine's brother William died 4 Apr 1856 age 15! ScotlandsPeople Index ref: D-1856-Cullen-13 refers.   

Happy hunting!
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Thursday 21 June 18 22:16 BST (UK)
My William Forbes was born 25/10/1806 and married Helen Stevenson.
I followed down from their son Alexander

It is a blessing & a hinderance that the same names are used over and over again!!
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: UgleyAl on Tuesday 01 January 19 19:34 GMT (UK)
Just joined.  I am a direct ancestor Catherine Forbes/James Strachan and have the tree if interested. o
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Thursday 03 January 19 19:07 GMT (UK)
Hi there
That would be great and likewise happy to share whatever info I have
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Shina on Saturday 15 June 19 21:28 BST (UK)
William Forbes and Helen Stevenson are my relatives too !!!  Shina
Title: Re: Stevensons of Cullen / Keith / Rathven
Post by: Loobs on Tuesday 25 June 19 19:29 BST (UK)
Hi Shina
Always happy to hear of another connection and share info  :)