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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: lily2103 on Friday 17 February 06 03:32 GMT (UK)
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I know this info isnt U.K. relatd but im hoping that someone will know what to do or where to look!
My rellie was Leslie Orian Carpenter, born 15 Nov. 1900 in Ohio, most likely Monroe county. His parents were Sarah Snyder and Earl Carpenter. They never married and family stories say that Sarah was a servant in Earl's house and he was married to another woman but that Earl put Leslie through school because he didnt have any other children. Leslie eventually became the principal of a public high school (again i think in monroe) Now, Sarah's parents were Francis Snyder and Eliza Baker who married 27 July 1873 in Monroe county Ohio (Sarah must have been REALLY young when she had Leslie) Earl's parents were Jack Carpenter and Ella Wells. I have no other dates but Im hoping someone can help.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!
erin
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Hi Erin and welcome to RootsChat!
Maybe you have these already - but if you would like 1920 census written out in full - I'd be glad to do it!!
1920 United States
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Hi Annie.
Congratulations on your responce to Erin,s Post,I am overwhelmed with your responce.
You are a real Ambassador to Rootschats.com.
Regards Reg.
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Thanks Annie! I had the SSDI but not the census. Can you tell me what else is on it please?
Erin
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On the 1900 census in Monroe County in the house of John S. Carpenter a farmer aged 60 married, wife not present, were his two single sons Oliver W. 20 years old and his younger brother Earl W. aged 18, both farm labourers. Also in the household was Sarah E. Snyder their father's cousin, a 23 year old (though her year of birth was written as Feb. 1873) whose occupation was a cook, and another Snyder, Laurence aged 2 whose relationship to the head of household was given as second cousin (which would be correct if he was the son of Sarah, and she was a cousin to John). On the census it stated Sarah was single and the mother of two children, both living at the time of the census.
Regards
Valda
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I think you might be right Valda, now i just have to make sure its them, THANKS!
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Thanks to the 1820 census from Annie, I was able to find John Baker and Elizabeth Morgan (the parents of Eliza Baker, grandparents of Sarah Snyder) on the 1881 census!!! Hope my lucky streak continues ;D
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Good for you Erin! - keep going ........ now you've got plenty to keep you occupied for a while .... apart from all the Carpenters!! I also think Valda is right on !!
Enjoy your search!
Annie :)
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Also in the same district are:
Francis Snyder born Apr 1845 55 m.27yrs farmer owner mortgaged born Ohio as were his parents
Louisa E.Snyder wife born June 1848 age 51
Margaret Snyder dau. born Dec 1883 age 15 House Keeper
Charles son born Sept, 1887 age 12 at school
Stephen Alra or Alva O. Snyder grandson born October 1896 age 4 (this could be Sarah's second child).
On same page are
John Snyder born June 1875 age 24 married 2 years
Farmer owner mortgaged
Harriett Snyder wife born Jan 1880 20
Hope this helps also.
Su
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The first one looks like a posibility as the 1920 has a Charles and Maggie that are the right age, and Sarah's father was Francis... but her mother was Eliza, could Eliza and Louisa be the same person??
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It says Louisa E.
So she was probably known by her second name, that often happened.
Su
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1910 Census Monroe county
Eliza Snyder Widow aged 61 mother of 8 children, 6 still living.
Margaret daughter aged 26 single
Charles son aged 22 single, a farmer
Orion Carpenter grandson aged 9
Also in Monroe county
Earl W. Carpenter Married 9 years farmer
Wife Adelia (Delia 1920) mother of 6 (6 still living)
Guy H 7
Parker 6
Earl 5
Roman 4 (son)
Maelva (Melva 1920) 2
Zelma 7 months (daughter missing 1920)
further children on 1920 census with their ages in 1920
Lillian V 10
Jennie H 8
Mary L 7
Ralph 6
Robert 4 years and 10 months
Pacy? (son) 3 years and 9 months
Evelyn 5 months
On the 1920 census Leslie O Carpenter 19 was in the house of Charles C Snyder 32 single farmer. With him was his single sister Maggie L 36 and his widowed mother Eliza E aged 71. Also in the household was Charles' married brother Elijah M Bunting aged 52 a farm labourer.
Regards
Valda
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It all looks good to me, but I wonder where Sarah is. Could she still be with Earl's father as thats where she was in 1900?
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Hi Erin,
I have been using these sites when researching my Ohio family. Maybe they be of use to you in the future.
http://index.rbhayes.org/hayes/index/
http://www.ohiohistory.org/index.html
http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/OH/Seneca/
Good luck in your research
Cathy
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On the 1910 census in Monroe county Ohio
John S. Carpenter aged 70 has remarried. His new wife Elizabeth aged 40 (married 7 years) is the mother of 6 children (6 still living). One of them is Angie aged 14, step daughter to John, but her surname is given as Carpenter (there are an awful lot of Carpenters in Monroe county). She may have taken John's surname, it maybe a mistake on the census, or her original surname was Carpenter. With them also was John and Elizabeth's own son Chancel aged 8 (who seems to have arrived slightly in front of the marriage).
The 1910 index is slightly difficult to find people on
"This database is an index to the head of households enumerated in the 1910 United States Federal Census, the Thirteenth Census of the United States"
If Sarah is not a head of household and not in the household of someone you know to search for then it makes it almost impossible to find her. There seems no evidence that Elizabeth, John's wife in 1910 is actually Sarah E. Her age, number of children, plus daughter Angie who should have appeared on the 1900 census would seem to rule her out.
Regards
Valda
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Looks like family lore may have to be changed.
This is the only Earl Carpenter in Monroe County. He seems to have been very fruitful, and multiplied many times.---Genealiza
1910 Ohio Monroe Seneca
Carpenter, Earl, 28
Adella, 32
Guy, 7
Parker, 6
Earl, 5
Roman, 4
Melva, 2
Zelma, 7/12
1920 Ohio Monroe Seneca
Carpenter, Earl, 39
Delia, 42
Guy, 16
Parker, 15
Earl J, 14
Roman, 13
Melva, 11
Lillian V, 10
Jennie H, 8
Mary L, 7
Ralph, 6
Robert, 4 10/12
Ray(?), 3 9/12
Evelyn, 5/12
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In the Ohio Death Certificate Index, located at the Ohio Historical Society <www.ohiohistory.org>, I found a Sarah Delilia Carpenter who dies Feb 2, 1942. Maybe her death certificate will state her maiden name.
-----Genealiza
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1870 Ohio Monroe Seneca
Baker, John, 66, male, white, farmer, real estate
value $9600, personeal estate value
$705, b. Ohio, male US citizen over 21
Elizabeth, 62, female, white, keeping
house, b. Ohio, can't read, write
Sarah, 42, female, white, helps mother, b
Ohio, can't read, write
Andrew, 32, male, white, works on farm,
b. Ohio, can't read, write, male US
citizen over 21
Lucinda, 30, female, white, helps mother,
b. Ohio, can't read, write
John F, 24, male, white, works on farm, b
Ohio, can't read, write, male US citizen
over 21
Eliza Ellen, 20, female, white, helps
mother, b. Ohio, can't read, write
1860 Ohio Monroe Seneca
John Baker, 51, male, farmer, real estate value
$4000, personal value $450, b. Ohio
Elizabeth 52, female, domestic, b. Ohio, can't
read, write
Sarah 33, female, domestic, b. Ohio, can't
read, write
James 30, male, farm laborer, b. Ohio,
can't read, write
Elijah 26, male, farm laborer, personal
value $150, b. Ohio, can't read, write
Andrew, 23, male, farm laborer, b. Ohio,
can't read, write
Lucinda 21, female, domestic, b. Ohio,
can't read, write
John F 15, male, farm laborer, b. Ohio,
Eliza E 12, female, b. Ohio
Francis W 1, male b. Ohio
1850 Ohio Monroe Seneca
John Baker, 46, farmer, real estate value
$2000, b. Ohio
Elisabeth 42, b. Ohio
Sarah 23 b. Ohio, can't read, write
James 22, farmer, b. Ohio
Elijah 17, b. Ohio, attends school
Andrew 13, b. Ohio, attends school
Lucinda 11, b. Ohio, attends school
John F 6, b. Ohio
Eliza E 2, b. Ohio
1840 Ohio Monroe Seneca
John Baker, males 1 (0-5), 1 (5-10), 1 (10-15)
1 (30-40)
females 1 (0-5), 1 (10-15), 1 (15-20)
the last female is probably an error
1830 Ohio Monroe Seneca
John Baker, males 1 (0-5), 1 (20-30)
females 1 (0-5), 1 (20-30)
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WOW! thank you all so much, now im excited ;D I didnt think this family was going to be found! still hope i can find more ;D
erin