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Title: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: john llet on Friday 24 February 06 02:49 GMT (UK)
Hello could someone look up 1861 census Middlesex Lobo
George Padget with Margret and William They are on their way from England to Iowa. I am trying to find out where they are from in England and or if William is Georges son. Thanks
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 24 February 06 06:58 GMT (UK)
Hello John

Could you provide a few more details about this family?
You mention Onterio? and yet also Middlesex.
Is this a British census query or not?

I have however looked up the Padget surname in the UK census of 1861 and find that nearly all of them are in Yorkshire.

Without knowing when these people were born,or what jobs they did,it's going to be hard to know if it is the correct family.

Regards,

Carol
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: john llet on Friday 24 February 06 18:37 GMT (UK)
sorry about lake of information, i will try to do better
William Padget left England to Canada around 1850S I think I have him located in Yorkshire but my information has his father as Henry Padget but in Yorkshire he is living with a George and Margret Padget.  I think this is the right Family because he had a sister named Mary which shows up in Yorkshire and in Iowa where ended up. I understand that they show up in the Ontario Census of 1861 in Middlesex (county?) and Lobo ( Township?) with George as head of household. William would be in his teens at this point depending on which age I use. I would like to find out if possible his relationship to George if that information is listed. George I believe is a Farmer  and William is a Farmer in Iowa.
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 24 February 06 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hello John,

I think you need to get a moderator to move this to the Canada boards?

I realise now you are talking about Ontario, Canada. ;D

Have you tried posting a request on the Yorkshire board for an 1841 look up,where you might get him living with his parents ?

All the best,

Carol
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: MJP on Friday 24 February 06 20:54 GMT (UK)
Hi John,

There is a free-access transcription of what looks like your family's census entry here:

http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/6nq/c186p001.htm#padget

but unfortunately they seem to have transcribed only the names, not ages or relationships, so it is not much help. 

Once the moderators move this over to the Canada boards I think you'll get a lot more responses - hopefully we can track down some more details for you. 

MJP
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: KarenM on Friday 24 February 06 23:00 GMT (UK)
Hi John,

Do you think any of them stayed in Ontario, or they all went off to Iowa?

I did find a William Padget who was born in Yorkshire, England and died in Markham Township, County of York in 1897.  He was 71 years old and a farmer.

Karen
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: J.J. on Sunday 26 February 06 02:35 GMT (UK)
Have also found a William in the 1871...Farmer in York East from England born 1826...This would be the same fallow as above...
No George...This is heads of households listed, only...
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02010803_e.html

No sign of this family in the 1881...
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: john llet on Thursday 02 March 06 23:48 GMT (UK)
The William Padget who was born in Yorkshire may have been a Brother of George the age is about right and George has a William with him that may have been his or a Henry Padgets ( according to the family information I have William Padget born about 1845 father was Henry Padget) It seems that William was living with George and Margaret Padget from at least 1851 to when they came to Iowa. By then William had married in Michigan and after stopping in northern Iowa settled in Waterloo Iowa. George and Margaret settled in the same county or very near it and I can find no reference that they are related. Which of course does not mean they are not but you would think someone would metion it.  Thank you both for the help if you have any suggestions I would be happy to hear them
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: Adeline on Saturday 04 March 06 04:56 GMT (UK)
Just thought I would give my 2 cents worth on this discussion............ but check out these websites, to see if you can find them. 

Directories - Click on the go button and look for the year you are requiring.  I know it says for Toronto, but there are other areas it covers for the year 1861 and should not be over looked.
http://digit.tpl.toronto.on.ca:8000/

Also check for directories:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/canadiandirectories/index-e.html

Also check Canadian Online, perhaps they are listed in a book/microfiche film.
http://www.canadiana.org/ECO

Never know what you might find!  :) 

Good luck, Adeline



Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: DeniseA on Monday 27 March 06 19:05 BST (UK)
Hi John
1861 doesn't give the 'relationship to head of house' but according to the 1851 enumerator instructions (they are basically the same layout) a household included anyone that 'had a bed' in that home and were to be listed in the following order; Head, Wife, unmarried children in order of age, married children and families, other family, lodgers and their families, servants, other members of household.
http://www.canada.uottawa.ca/ccri/resources.html
bottom of page - 1951 Enumerator Instructions - Original - page 13

Here is your Padget family in 1861
Film C-1050, 1861, Canada, Ontario, Middlesex, Lobo, Division 1, page 39
Info listed as follows:
Name, Occupation, Place of Birth, Religion, Age   
 
George Padget      Labourer   England       EC      45
Margaret Padget                       do                 do       34
Henry Padget         do               do                 do       19
William Padget      do                do                 do       17
Mary Padget                              do                 do       12
John Padget           do               do                 do         8
George Padget       Labourer-u Canada         do         5

According to the ages of the last two children and place born that would put their immigration between abt 1853 and 1856
Hope this helps unravel your mystery :)
~Denise

LOL, info wouldn't line up  ::)
Title: Re: Census Look up please Onterio 1861
Post by: J.J. on Monday 27 March 06 20:24 BST (UK)
Well done, Denise!...and now that we know there is no sign of George on the 1871 or beyond...one can assume he emigrated before that census...

This family doesn't show up for me in the 1880 U.S....none say born England & Young George must not state that he was born in Canada, either?

J.J.