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Title: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: eric on Tuesday 28 February 06 20:07 GMT (UK)
I have been told that one of my great  uncles was employed at the works during the constrution of the Lake Vyrnwy Reservoir Dam project. It would probably have been Alfred Dudley son of Richard Dudley Headmaster of Llanyblodwel School or one of his sons. Can anyone give me any clues if this true or where he was working at the later end of the century. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 02 March 06 16:39 GMT (UK)
Have you found Alfred on any of the census returns?
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: eric on Thursday 02 March 06 21:15 GMT (UK)
Not since 1871 census.
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 03 March 06 14:38 GMT (UK)
http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/item10/8659

When and where was Alfred born?

Where was he in the 1871 census?

Did he marry, and if so to whom?

Jan
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: eric on Friday 03 March 06 21:09 GMT (UK)
I have no record of him being married. Other imfo, He was born at New Bold on Avon, Warwickshire in 1854. In 1871 census he was at his parents, Richard and Ann Dudley, School House, Eardington, Bridgenorth and working as a Auctioneers Clerk. In 1881 Census he was again staying with his parents, in School House, Llanyblodwel,Montgomeryshire and working as a Collery Clerk. You have probably guessed by now his parents were School Teachers.
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 09 March 06 14:21 GMT (UK)
I don't know if you have found in Alfred in the 1861 but here are the details just in case you haven't ;)

RG9/1848 folio 57  page 14
National School, Eardington, Bridgnorth

Richard Dudley Head 38 School Master Salop Bridgnorth
Anna Dudley Wife 32 School Mistres Salop Astley Abbott
Alfred Dudley Son 7 Scholar Warwick Sugley transcribed as Sugley but the image clearly shows RUGBY
Jane G Dudley Dau 3 Salop Eardington
??? (A....ther) Langton Boarder 6 Scholar London


Jan
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 09 March 06 14:25 GMT (UK)
.....and 1851

HO107/1986 folio 22 page 7
Moat House, Eardington, Bridgnorth

Richard Dudley Head Marr 28 Schoolmaster Salop Bridgnorth
Anna Dudley Wife Marr 22 School Mistress Salop Astley Abbott


Jan

Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 09 March 06 14:37 GMT (UK)
In 1891 Alfred is not with his family:

RG12/2115 folio 75 page 21
Blodwel School, Llanyblodwell

Richard Dudley Head Marr 67 Schoolmaster Salop Bridgnorth
Anna Dudley Wife Marr 62 Schoolmistress Salop Eardington
Jane Gollan Dudley Dau Single 33 Nursery Governess Salop Eardington
Sophia Dudley Dau Single 20 Teacher Salop Eardington
Mary Ann Jones Lodger Widow 87 Living on her means Salop Pimhill
John Lloyd Visitor single 37 Mariner Salop Oswestry


Jan
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 09 March 06 15:05 GMT (UK)
Possible death for Richard Dudley:

1892 Jan,Feb, Mar quarter
Age at death 69
District: Oswestry
County: Denbighshire/Shropshire
Volume: 6a

Oswestry
Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Shropshire, but included parts of Denbighshire.
Sub-districts : Knockin; Llansilin; Oswestry; St. Martin.
GRO volumes : XVIII (1837-51); 6a (1852-1930).
Bron-y-Garth, Ifton Rhyn, Kinnerley, Knockin, Llanyblodwel, Llanymynech, Oswestry, Ruyton of the Eleven Towns, Selattyn, St. Martin's, Sychtyn, West Felton, Weston Rhyn, Whittington


Jan
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: eric on Thursday 09 March 06 20:36 GMT (UK)
Very many thanks ,you really have been working hard.You have given me a lot of useful info to think about. A SPECIAL BIG THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 09 March 06 20:43 GMT (UK)
You are very welcome Eric - glad to help :D

I wish I could find Alfred in 1891 and 1901.  I have done several different search methods in case he's been mistranscribed somewhere.

I will keep looking................. ;)


Jan

P.S.  I don't suppose you have got any extra information that might help me find him.
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: eric on Friday 10 March 06 10:38 GMT (UK)
I have little to go on as far as info. on Alfred Dudley. One small clue maybe , My grand father Francis John Davies married his sister Sarah Anncutt Dudley on December 29th 1885 at Llanyblodwel, the witnesses were his younger brother George Richard Dudley and the bride grooms sister Martha Selina Davies. This maybe the the only clue,they were both teachers  and the brides parents were teachers, which would have created a lot of local interest in the local press. This maybe the line to go on, to see if Alfred was still around. Many thanks for your help,you really have put in a lot of effort.
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Tuesday 02 May 06 22:05 BST (UK)
Hello again Eric

I think I've found Alfred on the 1901 census:

RG13/2876 39 page 29
62 New Street, Erdington, Warwickshire

INDEXED AS LADLEY (image does show Dudley)

Alfred Dudley Head M 47 Express? Officer Water Dept born Warwicks Newbold
Elizabeth Dudley Wife M 47 born Denbigh Llansilin
Eva Dudley Dau S 16 born Denbigh Llansilin
Elizabeth W Dudley Dau S 14 born Denbigh Llansilin
Grace Dudley Dau S 11 born Shropshire Oswestry
Alfred R Dudley Son S 10 born Warwicks Erdington
Annie W Dudley Dau S 7 born Warwicks Erdington


Jan

Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Tuesday 02 May 06 22:48 BST (UK)
......and, at long last, found him in 1891!!!

RG12/2425 folio 135 page 6
1 Clarence Road, Erdington, Warwickshire

INDEXED AS PARISH :o the name of the neighbouring family!!!

Alfred Dudley Head M 37 Book keeper born Warwickshire Newbold on Avon
Elizabeth Dudley Wife M 37 born Denbighshire Llansilin
Eva Dudley Dau S 6 born Denbighshire Llansilin
Elizabeth Dudley Dau S 4 born Denbighshire Llansilin
Grace Dudley Dau S 1 born Shropshire Oswestry
Alfred R Dudley Son 3 wks born Warwickshire Erdington

Jan
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Tuesday 02 May 06 22:53 BST (UK)
Marriage for Alfred?

September Quarter 1883

Alfred Dudley
Elizabeth Richards

District: Oswestry
Vol: 6a
Page: 1171

Oswestry district covers Llansilin


Jan
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: eric on Wednesday 03 May 06 21:29 BST (UK)
Jan, Very many thanks, you really have worked hard on this one Iam truely most gratefull. A big thank you.Rric.
Title: Re: Alfred Dudley born 1854
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 04 May 06 20:36 BST (UK)
I can stop thinking about Alfred now!!!!!!!! ;D

Jan