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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: louisa maud on Tuesday 07 March 06 11:57 GMT (UK)
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Has anyone any interest in the following surnames please
Coveney born England circa 1880
Edermaniger born England circa 1872
Edermaniger born England post 1898 children of the above
Taylor born Canada dates U/K, wife possibly nee Coveney or Edermaniger, they were at sometime known by the surname Maniger in England
These names are all connected to one family
regards
LOUISA MAUD
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Hi LM
Found the following marriages:
Caroline Maniger
Toronto, ON
March 13, 1916
Caroline Isabel Maniger
Toronto, ON
Sept. 29, 1921
Eleanor Maniger
Abitibi, ON
October 27, 1921
Elizabeth maniger
Toronto, ON
October 15, 1919
Also, birth registration for Winnifred
Winnifred Gertrude Edermaniger
Date of Birth: December 19, 1907
Father: Henry Edermaniger
Mother: Kate Coveney
Address: 147 Augusta Avenue, Toronto
Occupation of Father: Electrician
I will order the microfilm's so that we can see who Caroline remarried and her girls married.
Karen
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Karen
You are an absolute gem
I am sure the mother must have married again, she was young enough, lets hope she found happiness.
That leaves Winnifred and Edith, one of these daughter married Elroy Taylor, I am sure that is where the connection is.
Elroy came to England about 1968, both he and his wife, Edith, were lovely people, I am wondering if it was Edith Maniger who eventually married Elroy, they lived in Toronto.
Strange how she changed her name to Maniger, her first husband was under the name of Maniger on the 1901, I found him in the Queen Victoria hospital Southampton on that census and his wife was in Essex.
It is really looking interesting now, hugely thanks to you.
take care
regards
Louisa Maud
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Hi Louisa Maud,
One of the microfilm's came in, so here is Elizabeth's marriage info:
Groom: Jesse Stilwell
Age: 25 years
Residence when married: Toronto
Place of Birth: Watford, Ontario
Occupation: Bridge Builder
Religion: Anglican
Father: Thomas Stilwell
Mother: Harriet Cooper
Bride: Elizabeth Maniger
Age: 21 years
Residence: Toronto
Place of Birth: Wallhamstowe, England (hard to read the writing)
Occupation: Nurse
Religion: Presbyterian
Father: Henry Thomas Maniger, deceased
Mother: Caroline Coveney
Witnessess: Eleanor Maniger, 379 Poulton Ave., Toronto
A.W. tilwell, Box 141, Cochrane, Ontario
Clergyman: H.A. Berlis, 113 Hiawartha Road, Toronto, Presbyterian
Jesse & Elizabeth have 379 Poulton Ave., Toronto as their address on the marriage license.
Karen
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Dear Karen
Thank you very much, that is good information to tie up one family member, yes the place born was WALTHAMSTOW, it was Essex in those days. Eleanor a witness was her sister don't know about the other one
As I said before, Henry Thomas was originally Edermaniger, would have been very difficult to have discovered this, he was on 1901 as Maniger, wonder why they changed it, wonder if anyone else is looking for them?.
Thank you once again.
regards
LOUISA MAUD
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Here's Caroline's 2nd marriage info:
Groom: William Henry Adams
Age: 44 years
Residence when Married: Toronto
Bachelor or Widower: B
Where Born: England
Occupation: Carpenter
Religious Denomination: Church of England
Father: John L. Adams
Mother: Elizabeth Stokes
Caroline Maniger
Age 35 years
Residence: Toronto
Where Born: England
Single or Widow: W
Religious Denomination: Church of England
Father: Richard C. Covenay
Mother: Caroline Challeu (hard to read writing)
Witnessess and Address: Louis Bisaney, 340 King St., West, Toronto and Sophie Odd (?), 205 John Street, Toronto
"Married by me at 205 John St., Toronto, this 13th day of March, 1916"
(Can't read signature) 205 John St., Church of England
It also notes that William has lived in Toronto 11 years.
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Marriage Info for:
Groom: George Bain Hagan
Occupation: Salesman
25 years old
Bachelor
Presbyterian
Residence when Married: Toronto
Place of Birth: Belfast, Ireland
Name of Father: Edward Hugh Hagan
Name of Mother: Rebecca McAllister
Birthplace of Grooms father: Co. Antrim, Ireland
Caroline Isabel Maniger
Occupation: Cashier
Spinster
17 years *
Presbyterian
Residence: Toronto
Place of Birth: Hastow Middlesex, England
Name of Father: Henry Thomas Maniger
Name of Mother: Caroline Coveney
Birthplace of Father: Middlesex, England
Witnessess: Isabel McAdams, 567 Ontario St., Toronto and William Hagan, 194 Heward Ave., Toronto
Date of Marriage: Sept 29, 1921
Clergyman: HA Berlis, 113 Hiawartha Road, Presbyterian
* Letter of Consent attached signed by Mrs. Caroline Adams, 467 Poulton Ave., Toronto authorizing marriage of her daughter.
Karen
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Dear Karen
Once again Karen you have come up with some wonderful news.
Witness to Caroline Maniger's marriage LOUIS BISANEY, well that proves he was in Canada at that date, he seems to be very evasive, never found his birth supposedly in England.
A HUGE THANK YOU Karen once again, I do appreciate what you have done, I do hope you are not out of pocket with expenses, if so I would like you to PM me.
best regards
Louisa Maud
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Hi Louisa Maud,
I was excited too when I saw Louis was a witness!
There is no expense, everything is free at the library.
Karen
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Well Karen
I can see you truly have this genealogy bug, once caught it is difficult to get rid of.
You have obviously started this at a young age, how I wished I had and I could have probably solved all of the gaping holes I have now , all unanswered, but I must admit with your help you have darned a few holes for me, many thanks once again.
I have found the whole Canadian search exciting, and as you say it was exciting to see Louis as a witness.
I am hoping to get to Kew by coach and look at the passports and perhaps find out exactly when they all sailed to Canada. Two of the sisters weren't very lucky in Canada, they both were widowed, Adelaide Bisaney came home to marry again and Caroline Maniger went on to marry again in Canada .
Thank you once again
Take care
regards
LM
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What about the other sister Sarah? Do you know anything about her?
Yes, I started young, but everyone died when I was to young, so unable to ask any questions. I do wish I could have 10 mins alone with each of my grandparents, especially my mum's father, if I could just find where he was born!!
Karen
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Sarah Coveney was born 1890 in Westminster London, to date I haven't found out about her, in fact originally I thought it might have been her who went to Canada, it was only when I found Louis Bisaney's death on the war graves commission that I started to delve further, I have more delving to do here I think, unless of course Sarah did go to Canada with her sisters Adelaide and Caroline. It is strange how it is all coming together in a way that no one else even knew about, all we knew was Edith was my father in laws cousin, she was married at sometime to Elroy Taylor in Canada, that was all I or my husband knew. I suppose at some stage, Winifred born in Toronto 1907, and Edith Adelaide born England 1905, must have married at sometime in Canada.
Do you think your grandfather was born in England?, can I help you find him?.
regards
Louisa Maud
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I'm still waiting on the mircofilm for Eleanor's marriage to come in as well.
Thanks for the offer about my grandfather. My mum always said he said he was born in New York State, but he didn't seem to tell the truth on a few documents that I have. Sometimes he said he was American other Canadian, I think cause he married my grandmother he thought that gave him automatic Canadian Status ;D I'm waiting on their marriage certificate from the Province of Ontario so I'll see what he has to say for himself there.
Karen
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Hi Louisa Maud,
Here's Eleanor's marriage information, looks like her and Elizabeth married brothers....
Groom: Arthur Wilmur Stillwell
Occuaption: Farmer
Bachelor
Age: 23 years
Church of England
Residence When Married: Brower Township
Place of Birth: Kingscourt, Ontario
Intended Place of Marriage: Cochrane, Ontario
Bride: Eleanor Maniger
Occupation: Spinster
Spinster
Age: 20 years
Place of Birth: England
Witnesess: Bessie Stillwell, Abitibi, Ontario & Thos. Stillwell, Cochrane, Ontario
Married at Christ Church, Abitibi, Ontario, Timaskaming October 27, 1921
Father & Mother of Groom: LJ(?)Stillwell & Jane Cooper
Father & Mother of Bride: Henry Maniger, dec'd & Caroline Eliz. Coveney
Father's Birthplace of Groom: St. Luke's London
Father's Birthplace of Bride: England
Karen
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Hi Karen
That was a nice surprise this morning to open up your email.
Looking at my records the parents of Jesse Stilwell were Thomas and Harriett nee Cooper unless I have it incorrectly, perhaps they were cousins.
I am still interested in Edith who married Elroy Taylor but I have no idea when,
I saw your massage re father's name on certs, I have a cert and on her birth there is no father shown but then when she married there is a name of a father that I can't find and has nothing to do with any other name in the family, something we will never know, also my Violet Bisanay never used that name, she always used the name of her mother's second marriage, it gives us something to think about though doesn't it.
Once again many thanks Karen
regards
Louisa Maud