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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Inverness => Topic started by: Tantan on Thursday 09 March 06 13:54 GMT (UK)
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Please can anyone help me identify the location of Petty, Invernessshire, where my McKenzie ancestors lived in the late 1700's. I am unable to identify Petty on any modern map, although I would expect some evidence of the site on an Ordnance Survey map.
I have found reference to Petty Parish Church, but where is it??
Regards
David
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Hello David
I put 'Petty parish' into Google and found that it was part of Nairn until 1897 and was then included under re-drawn boundaries as part of Inverness administrative area. So its North East coast on the Moray Firth.
You learn something new every day here !! Since I have - so far - no relatives in that area I hadn't noted the parish names. I will now.
Google brings up a bizarre range of hits but add 'parish' and it normally gets a few hits
Russell
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Hi Russell
Many thanks for your response. I have found quite a few references to Petty (but not the Google one), but still don't know exactly where it was/is.Shall keep searching.
Regards
David
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Hi David
I have looked or an old map of the parish and come up with nothing yet but I reckon it was about midway between Inverness and Nairn roughly centred on Dalcross. The Castle Stewart Hotel claims to be in Petty Parish, Dalcross.
There isn't a large enough village or town to use a gazetteer to find it.
There must be a map on Genuki or Rootsweb.
I'll keep looking
Russell
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I've got a map here showing its location but it's just black and white. I'm trying to scan it for you but the ....scanner is misbehaving!
Nell
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OK - at last it has decided to behave.
The parish of Petty is just outside Inverness on the coast of the Moray Firth and may include the present location of the airport!
I hope this map does not appear too large.
Nell
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Hi Nell & Russell
Very many thanks for all your help. The map came through well thank you Nell.
Regards
David
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The village of Petty can be found at the extreme left edge of this map found at click here (http://www.nls.uk:8080/StyleServer/calcrgn?cat=Maps&item=/74400177.sid&style=maps.xsl&wid=700&hei=500&browser=win_ie&plugin=false) - Petty is southeast of Ardersier and just north of the Battleground of Culloden. If you enlarge the map and pan to the extreme left edge and up until you come to the Moray Firth, you will be able to see Petty.
Happy Hunting
Bill
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Hi Bill
Very many thanks for that wonderful old map which clearly marks Petty village. I shall have to make another expedition to Scotland to see if anything still exists of the site. Many thanks to everyone for all the help & interest.
Regards
David
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Hi David.
I'm new here but noticed your request for info on Petty Church. It exists but basically the village doesnt anymore. There is info about Petty in the Old Statistical Accounts if you can get hold of them, if that helps.
I've been researching my family history in that area, and its fascinating.
Good luck with your delving, and holler if i can help further.
Regards,
Helen
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Hi Helen
Many thanks for your message. I'm pleased to learn that the church still exists and one of these days I shall try to get there. I shall also try to get a look at the Accounts you refer to, any idea how I go about that? Also do you know where I would have to go to look at the Parish registers of Petty?
Your interest much appreciated.
Regards
David
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Hi David,
You can find the Statistical Accounts for Scotland at http://edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/ if you log in as a non-subscriber. The accounts of the 1790s and 1830s-40s are there (under Pettie). Select by county first, then you will get a drop-down list of parishes of that county.
The OPRs can be viewed on microfilm in a number of different libraries or research centres. For Petty, these should be at Inverness Library; New Register House, Edinburgh; Scottish Library of Edinburgh Central Library; SGS Library, Edinburgh; or can be ordered in to any LDS Family Histiry Centre.
ADP
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Many thanks ADP
Regards
David
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David,
I'm awaiting a copy of the MI's for Old Petty Churchyard - will give you a shout when i have it, if that helps at all.
Regards,
Helen
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Hi Helen
Many thanks I shall be interested to hear from you when you have them. Also many thanks to you & ADP for pointing me in the direction of the Statistical accounts, I read them yesterday - fascinating and very interesting.
Regards
David
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Hi David,
No problem, you're very welcome.
Yes those accounts are superbly written and often in a quaint way, sounding vaguely reprimanding on some issues..!
I may be over Petty way at the weekend doing some research.
Do holler if theres anything i can help with, as i presume you're further away.
Helen
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David,
I just noticed in my copy of the Statistical Accounts of Petty, a reference to a Daniel Mckenzie as a minister (i think) around 1719, on the last page.
Any chance he's one of your Mckenzies? Just curious, but that would be so cool.
Helen
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Hi Helen
Yes I also noticed Daniel McKenzie and it certainly would be fantastic if there was a connection, but if there is I haven't found it - yet!! My Gr Gr Grandfather was Donald Mckenzie b. Cawdor 1812 and his father was a David McKenzie who was living in Petty in 1821 when they had their last child Margaret. Unfortunately from what I can see McKenzie is as common as Smith down here (and unfortunately my Mum was a Smith!!!), so it gets a bit difficult finding people!! I believe that the father of David McKenzie was Donald who was living in Petty in the 1780s. So far I can't see a Daniel in any of the families of mine.
I live down near Oxford but have been up to that area, unfortunately before I knew about any of this!!
Best Wishes
David
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I believe the Morayshire Heiritage Centre, in Elgin, holds all the prominent records for Petty - the OPRs, Census, MIs, etc. They can be contacted at http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp - this site may even be able to help you further and provides references to various newspaper articles, MIs, and other interesting events on individuals. They have just moved premises so may take some time to get back to you. You can e-mail them direct, but do have a small staff and make great efforts to get back to you.
Happy Hunting
Bill
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Hi Bill
Many thanks for the info re Morayshire Heritage centre, I'll try them. Much appreciate your interest.
Regards
David
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David,
Hi and sorry for the delay.
I have the book of MI's from Petty old church and there are several McKenzies listed.
The names you mentioned were David and Donald i think, if so here are the listings under those names: -
David (and his wife Isobel McIntosh) - stone dated 1752
Donald (father of Kenneth) - d. 2/4/1741
Donald - d. 24/4/1831 aged 80
Donald - d. 11/11/1766 aged 80
(with this one, amongst others is Margaret Campbell - d. 13/2/1810)
also, this may be of use
John (erected by his son Donald) - d. 26/6/1846 aged 68
there was also a Dr. John McK who erected a stone for 3 of his children, early 1800's.
If even one of those is a hit then that'd be fab.
Regards,
Helen
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Helen
You're a star for taking the time to check this out for me. Unfortunately I can't make any links at the moment, although it's 01.00 and I'm up with indigestion so I might make more sense later. Will get back to you after a bit more delving.
Many thanks again.
David
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Hi Helen
I'm back again having had another look back through my records. What I know for certain is that my Gr Gr Grandparents were David McKenzie and Janet Clunes who were married in 1807 at Cawdor and the last trace I have of them is living in Petty at the birth of their last daughter Margaret. I haven't found any record of their death yet.
I suspect that the parents of David McK were Donald McK and Christian Fraser who were married in Petty on 18/11/1775 which is where their 5 children were born between 1779 and 1790, David being born 1780. It's highly probable that the ones you have found are related but I don't have anything yet to make a link. I suppose I need to try the OPR's?
Many thanks for your help and interest, I notice that you have a Mackenzie line also but with the other spelling.
Best Regards
David
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Hello Helen
My hubby has ancestors in Petty so I would also be interested in the MI's.
Heather
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David,
You're welcome to any info i can pass on from this booklet.
I tried looking for the names you mentioned but cant find any. However there are more McKenzies listed so if you discover anything else or i can help any other way please holler.
Heather,
Hi, and ditto regarding any help i can be with the MI's, or general info on Petty.
PM me if you prefer, with names etc, and we'll see if the booklet helps.
Helen
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Hi Helen
Thanks for the message. Regarding the McKenzies I can't think of anything else to check, but are there any Wilson names in there because Donald McKenzie married Margaret Wilson and I'm having as much trouble with that name as I am McKenzie. This is for a similar period i.e 1830 back to say 1750.
Many thanks
David
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Hello Helen
Many Thanks for offering a lookup for me. I have Donald Johnston/Isobell Ralph, John Johnston/Ann Smith and Alexander Lawson/Janet McIntosh.
Heather
p.s I see you have names in Moray if you need any lookup's please let me know as I live in Moray and go to the Heritage Centre every week.
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Hi Helen
do you have Beaton or Bethunes in the MIs
thanks
mary
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Hi Helen
Thanks for the message. Regarding the McKenzies I can't think of anything else to check, but are there any Wilson names in there because Donald McKenzie married Margaret Wilson and I'm having as much trouble with that name as I am McKenzie. This is for a similar period i.e 1830 back to say 1750.
Many thanks
David
Hi David,
Sorry no luck with the Wilsons, except for a Donald Wilson who erected a stone for his wife who d. in 1886 aged 49. No mention of his dates, only their children.
Also a Catherine b @ 1860.
Helen
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Hello Helen
Many Thanks for offering a lookup for me. I have Donald Johnston/Isobell Ralph, John Johnston/Ann Smith and Alexander Lawson/Janet McIntosh.
Heather
p.s I see you have names in Moray if you need any lookup's please let me know as I live in Moray and go to the Heritage Centre every week.
Hi Heather,
aaarrrgh lotsa Johnstons but not those forenames, or else those spouses.
Ditto for Smith and McIntosh.
Thank you for your offer of lookups, however i bide in lossie :o
and am in the college most days so we could arrange to hook up so you can rifle through the booklet yersel if you like :D
Helen
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Hi Helen
do you have Beaton or Bethunes in the MIs
thanks
mary
Hi Mary,
sorry theres no mention of those surnames in the booklet i have.
please ask again though for other names you may have in that area.
Regards,
Helen
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Thanks Helen, I know they are buried there - just no headstone I guess
thanks again
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Mary,
thats unfortunately the case with most of my Petty people.
There are some buried stones with no legible inscriptions but that doesnt help us huh. Thank goodness for other records.
There are other graveyards nearby though, such as Ardersier, plus the newer one at Petty - so it depends on your dates.
Helen
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Hi Helen
I was wondering if you could look up in the MI's Old Petty Church Book, a Walter and Catherine Ross.
Thank you
Aley
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Hi Aley,
Sorry but they aren't listed in the Old MI's book. There are several Ross's but not those first names. There's a Katherine Ross, spouse of Allexander Denune, d. march 1663 also a Catherine Rose but thats the closest i found. The christian name Walter is unusual for the area, in fact theres only one in the whole book, a Walter Clark. Did he have family in the area which may match the Ross's in the book?
I'm sorry i couldn't find you a direct match but am willing to help in any way i can.
Helen
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Hi Helen
Thank you for looking.
I am trying to find what cemetery they are buried in. I don't have dates when they died. Only that Walter Ross was last listed on the 1861 Inv Petty Brechlide census. His wife Catherine McDonald Ross was listed as being a widow in the 1871 census, Inverness-shire Parish of Petty ED 7/2 Brechlich.
So it looks like Walter died in that 10 year span.
The last I have on Catherine McDonald Ross, is the Valuation Rolls for County of Nairn,
1900-01 Proprietor and Tenant of Brackley of Farm, House & House - Mrs. Catherine Ross. thereafter Walter ( Son ) until 1905-06 Nairn.
Looks like she died between 1900 - 1901.
Could they be buried on that farm. Does anyone know where this Brackley Farm is?
Aley
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Hi Helen,
I am wondering if the surname Main features in your MI's? I have a lot of them, stemming from William Main/Ann McKenzie. Her parents were John Mckenzie/Ann Tolmie. Iw ould be intersted to hear of any Mains, McKenzies and Tomies in the MI list.
Thank you for your very kind offer.
Nina
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Could they be buried on that farm. Does anyone know where this Brackley Farm is?
Aley
Hi Aley.
The parish of Petty was an amalgamation of two parishes, Petty (or Pettye, Pettie) and Bracholy (or Braichlich). Bracholy was closer to Ardersier ie further northeast and closer to Fort George. There is no longer a church but there is a graveyard.
I'm not sure about the ethics and rules on these things, (anyone, please feel free to advise me!) but there is a website with a few details about it, basically if you look for 'The Deanery of Inverness' then 'Bracheli' on the l/h side. Any snags then let me know and i'll pm you with the link.
I haven't found the location of the farm yet, but am still checking old maps i have and will get back to you if i get any joy.
Cheers,
Helen
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Hi Nina.
Sorry it took me a couple of days to reply to you, i hope this helps.
In my booklet, there are no listings at all for 'Mains' - a surname which is associated further east along the coast, but there are plenty of McKenzies and Tolmies listed. Several can be discounted from your information, but there are others, so it'd be easier if you could provide dates - even if approximate - to narrow it down please, or perhaps other first names?
Helen
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Hi Helen
Many apologies but I only just read your April message re not finding any Wilsons at Petty. Many thanks for trying.
Regards
David
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Hi Helen,
Sorry for the delay in replying.
Well I will tell you what I know, which isn't much!
John McKenzie and Ann Tolmie had a daughter Ann McKenzie in about 1781. Ann McKenzie married William Main and died in Ardersier in 1858. Apparently William died before 1851. Those are all I know about and as you can see I don't have approximate dates of birth or death for John McKenzie or his wife.
Nina
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Hello Helen
Am new to rootsweb and whilst browsing found you posts on Petty. My husband's great grandfather Duncan MacRae was born c 1850 in Petty.His parents were Donald/David MacRae and Sarah Macpherson He married Margaret Morrison 27th May 1870 in Rosemarkie.I wonder if there is any connection with you MacRae family and also would you be kind enough to look up the MIs for Petty churchyard to see if any of the above are mentioned.
Kind Regards
Frances :)
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Hi Frances.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but none of those particular McRae people are listed in my book. There is a Margaret Morrison but many decades later.
However i'm pretty sure that whilst researching my lot, i found info on Duncan/David/Donald McRae's so i'll have a rummage again.
Best of luck anyhow,
Helen
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Thank you Helen
Anything you can find would be much appreciated.
Kind Regards
Frances :)
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Brackla Farm lies South West of Nairn off the B9101 and doubtless gave its name to the Royal Brackla distillery there. It is not much farther to the village of Cawdor and the old graveyard there.
Could this be the modern spelling of the farm you seek?
Frances.
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Is Brackla Farm close to Gollanfield?
Aley
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Apologies ! I think I have sent you on a wild goose chase having now found Breckley on the B9006 South of where it where it crosses the main A96 Inverness-Niarn road.
Within a mile you will find Gollanfield and Gollanfield Home Farm to the North East and to the North West is Milton of Gollanfield.
You should find them on http://www.multimap.co.uk close up .
Should you want photographs I will be out that way next week.
Good hunting,
Fransmoi
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Hi Fransmoi,
We would love to have a photo of Gollanfield and Brackley. That is where the Ross Family lived until 1906.
Aley
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My other half drove me out there this afternoon . This is Brackley farmhouse and Brackley Cottage.
Semd me a private message with your e-mail address and I will send others rather than fill up the site here.
Fransmoi
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Wow, I just got back from library and ancestry.com where I am searching for Walter Ross born in Inverness He lived in Olds Alberta and in BC and had a daughter named Margaret. She was my Mother In Law but died in Calgary around 1983. I had been divorced by then and her son died about 8 years ago and I have no info on him other then he won prizes for gardening. But this is what I found today.
Walter Ross and Elizabeth (Bessie) Ross in Petty address BRACKLEY FARM HOUSE 1901Census with children:
John 6
Walter 4
Jane 2
Catherine 8 months
Donald Wilson 18
Jane skinner 19
Walter Ross & Elizabeth Ross in Olds (Red Deer) Alberta 1911 Census immigrated 1906 with children:
John 16
Walter 17
Jome 12
Catherine 10
Ross 7
William 2
Bessie Ross in Olds Alberta 1916 Census immig 1906 with children:
John 21
Walter 19
Jean 17
Catherine 16
Bessie 13
Willie 7
there was also another Walter Ross born 1898 in the 1901 Scotland Census
Born 1898 Kilmuir Inverness shire
father George
Mother Christina
Address Dalmore
But i did not have time to trace this one's wherabouts.
another Walter Ross born 1884 (think this is too early) Shoemaker in 1901 Scotland Census
Born Abertarff Inverness shire address View Forth Place
Father Duncan
Mother Jane Ballie
I have to dig up my notes from others searching for Walter Ross of Inverness and Olds Alberta Canada who thought it couldn't be my Walter Ross...lots of ross's from Inverness ended up in Olds it seems. any insights or assistance would be greatly appreciated.
oh and this picture of the Brackley Farm House...is it the only one known as the Brackley Farm House so this Ross family must have been from it? Thanks for all the informative posts will dig further
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Hi Folks,
I've just joined Rootschat and found so many helpful people.
I have successfully traced my Davidson line back to Fisherton - Connage - Petty
My eyes lit up when I spotted your topic, as I believe a number of the Davidsons are buried in Petty churchyard. Can anyone give me evidence for this.There was much inter-marriage between the Cameron, Johnston & Davidson families but I do have one Fisherton - Petty McKenzie on my family tree.
Can anyone confirm that Christian McKenzie b..1765 & John Cameron b. 1756
were the parents of Ann Cameron b. 1787 - married Alex Davidson in 1819.
Davcantray
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Hi Davcantray
I have the MI list for the old churchyard at Petty but cannot find references for the family you mentioned, sorry.
There are others of course with those surnames so presumably you do have more indirect ancestors buried there, but sorry i can't find these ones.
Any other names you come up with though, please holler and i'll have a wee look again.
Cheers, Helen
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Thanks Helen',
My Davidson ancestors lived in and around Fisherton-Petty from at least 1726 to 1874 when my GreatGrandfather , William Davidson b. 1849 left to marry Ann Young in Edinkillie. The 4 generations who lived and worked in Fisherton were:
Donald D. b. 1726 -- married Margaret McGregor b. ?? in 1748
William D. b. 1758 -- married Janet Cameron b.. 1767 in 1784
Alexander D. b. 1788 - married Ann Cameron b. 1785 in 1819
John D. b. 1821 --- married Mary Johnston b. 1823 in 1843
Unfortunately, I have as yet only been able to identify when John Davidson
died --- 31st May 1858
I would be grateful for any information
Dav
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Hi Dav,
I just noticed your last posting and many of my ancestors are from the Fisherton Petty area (surnames Cameron, Tolmie, Patience, McIntosh). The Janet Cameron in your post caught my eye. I also have a Janet Cameron, b1767 in Petty with parents David Cameron and Ann McKenzie. Does this match your Janet?
I also have many Davidson's in my tree, but only one seems to have been born in Petty, Ann Davidson who married Donald Smith in Petty in 1827. All of my other Davidsons are from Croy (the parish next to Petty) and Moy, also very close to Petty.
Neil
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Hi Neil
Yes - we have the same Janet Cameron . Do you have details of David Cameron & Ann McKenzie's Births and Marriage ?
I only have the names. I do have a copy of Janet's Birth & Marriage entry.
My Ann Davidson was born in 1844 .
Dav
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Dav,
I have a copy of Janet Cameron's OPR birth entry (26th May 1767), but no information on her marriage. My great x5 grandfather is Janet's brother William (b1775).
I have a marriage of a David Cameron and Anna McKenzie in Petty on 7th March 1758. The only record of a birth of a David Cameron in Petty I could find (on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) is for 5th November 1738. His parents were William Cameron (alias McKeddie) and Helen Denune.
This is so far back I guess it is difficult to be certain that these were his parents but I am curious about the alias of McKeddie.
Also I tried to search for Helen Denune as it does not seem like a common surname and came up with was a birth in 1708, in Petty, with father Alexander Denune, parson of "Pettie". There was also a birth in 1706 of an Ann Denune in Petty with the same father.
This page (http://www.electricscotland.com/HISTORY/cairngorm/52.htm) mentions an Alexander Denoon as minister at Petty who was "deposed for swearing, drunkenness, and other faults".
I have the images from the ScotlandsPeople website for the David Cameron and the Denunes if you are interested.
Neil
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Hello Tantan
The Petty Church is a very pretty, stone built church situated right alongside the A96, mid-way between Inverness, and Nairn. Its not actually on the coast itself, but is near Castle Stewart (an hotel) and privately owned Dalcross Castle.
During the past few years, Dame Helen Mirren and her American movie director husband were married at the Petty Church.
There is a graveyard attached to the Church.
Kilvarock Castle (Rose Clan) and Cawdor Castle (Campbell Clan) are nearby to.
Danchaslyn
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Hi I was on the Internet and joined thus rootsweb as I saw the entries on petty. I was at ardesier the other day but didn't find what I was looking for as I didn't know there was another grave yard at old petty. My ancestors came to petty during the late 19th century. They came fro
Ryrevaich little loch broom. I'm looking for Kenneth Mckenzie or his son donald and descendants. Quite a large family came to petty to become shepherds. Anything you have would be gratefully received
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Helen, You sound as if you are something of an expert and I wonder if you can possibly help! I'm trying to trace the birth of my 2xgreat grandfather, George McIntosh, who is given as born in Arderseir on the 1851 and 1861 census returns, at around 1818. Witnesses to the birth of his children in Glasgow include a James McIntosh and a William McIntosh, who I take to be his brothers. The only McIntosh family I have found in the Arderseir/Petty area at around 1815 including a James, William and George are the children of James McIntosh and Isobel Tolmie. Their James was born in Petty in 1806 and William in Arderseir in 1812, but I can't find a birth entry for George on Scotlands People, though someone has submitted an entry on IGI of 6th August 1819. Is there any possibility of being able to check the records I wonder? Any advice or help would be gratefully received!
Best wishes, John
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Has anyone searched Cuthbert or Newton
I descend from Alexander Cuthbert and Johanna Newton
Married Dec 2, 1839
Petty St.
Rev Robt McPherson
I have the marriage certificate and I am trying to determine parents.
Alexander Cuthbert b. about 1801 Shoemaker
Parish #98?
Johanna b. 1823
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Hello,
I'm hoping to identify a place name in a 1736 baptism in Petty Parish.
The family was living "in the Island" at the time, where the father was "servant to Donald Clark in the Island". Maps I've consulted haven't been of help.
Suggestions?
islaymist1
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Most of the families in Petty ( Fisherton & Connage ) were fisherfolk . The extended families lived on both sides of the Moray Firth.
" the island " is undoubtedly The Black Isle
Dav
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Hello, Dav,
Thank you for your insight re the Petty baptism and families "in the Island". My husband had
wondered whether the reference wasn't to the Black Isle. I had thought it too distant, but was thinking in terms of land travel.
Have you come across resources with information about the fisher folk of the 18th who fished from both sides of the Moray Firth?
Thanks again,
Islaymist1
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My own ancestors , the Daviidsons , lived mainly in Fisherton ,but also in Ardesier and the Black Isle .
Other families are the Camerons , Johnstones & McKenzies .
Unfortunately I have found no documented general narratives regarding these fishing families.
Dav
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Thanks again, Dav.
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Hi - interested to see some very helpful comments for people re. Petty Church and cemetery. I am hoping someone can help with my enquiry...
I am looking for great-great-great-grandparents, Donald Clarke and Jane Cameron, who were married at Petty on June 29th 1866 - specifically, for anything relevant to their births, deaths, or parentage. Thanks in advance for any takers!
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They are actually buried in Breaklish Burial Ground, Gollanfield
In loving memory of Donald Clarke who died at Calder Cottage, Ardersier on Oct 30th 1902. And his children Alexander, Jessie, Elizabeth who died in infancy. Also his wife Jane Cameron who died 23rd Nov 1903. Also their daughter Jane who died 11th Dec 1905 aged 23 years. And of their son Angus, 5th Seaforth Highlanders who fell in action at The Somme 27th July 1916 aged 38 years. Buried in Montauban Cemetery.
If you would like a photo semd me a PM with your email address
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Fantastic! :D I wasn't sure this was my family, as I also had a link to Oban, but couldn't trace them there. But I have the original official notification of Angus's death at the Somme - so this is absolutely right!
Very much appreciated!!
How do I pm you?
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I think you may have to make another post as I think you have to make 3 posts and then click on the black circle with the sheet of paper in it under my username.
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Marvellous - photos safely received.
Many many thanks - it helps enormously.
Would love to try and get up there one day - one of their children made it down to Cornwall, so I'm quite a long way away!
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I too have unearthed links with the parish church at Petty: some of my ancestors were married and/or had their children baptized there (mostly in around 1820s). This is a bit of a long shot, but we have no date of death/place of burial for a few of these folk, and I should be extremely grateful if anyone who has access to MIs for here could let me know if they contain references to any of the following:
Thomas Davies died 1840
Isabella Matthews (wife of above; died some time after 1840)
Lachlan Mackay born 1792
Margaret Davies born 1794 (wife of above)
Lachlan Mackay born 1827 and Sophia Mackay born 1825 (children of above pair)
Margaret MacDonald born 1824
Jane MacDonald born 1826
Many thanks -- and I, too, am on the list of Rootschatters who hope to visit here one day! (Perhaps we should organise a Rootschat Delegation Visit :D!)
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I don't see anything obvious jumping out at me from my records on the names you are looking for. There are a few Margaret and Jane MacDonalds that are possibles, but a husband or parents name would help narrow them down. The only reference to a Thomas Davies I have is a slab in Chapel Yard, Inverness
Under this stone lies the remains of Margaret Davies wife of Thomas Davies who departed this life on the 24th of Jan 1809 in the 49th year of her age. She left a husband and numerous family to lament her loss.
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Grandfather angus mc lean born 1871 petty son of donald mc lean froM croy who married ann mccrae petty daughter of janet and john mccrae think angus had brother colin 1873 sister marjory 1861 sister jessie 1863 but not able to find out other siblings can anyone help x
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Hi I am looking to trace any further information on the family of Janet McIntosh (nee Tolmie). She is the daughter of Andrew Tolmie (don't have mothers info). She was born in Petty 4 June 1795 and married William McIntosh on 21 Feb 1818. The only child I have is my relative Margaret McIntosh who was worn abt 1824 and died 30 Nov 1863. She married John Smith.
Would anyone be linked or have any further information they could share?
Many Thanks
H
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Hello Tantan
The Petty Church is a very pretty, stone built church situated right alongside the A96, mid-way between Inverness, and Nairn. Its not actually on the coast itself, but is near Castle Stewart (an hotel) and privately owned Dalcross Castle.
During the past few years, Dame Helen Mirren and her American movie director husband were married at the Petty Church.
There is a graveyard attached to the Church.
Kilvarock Castle (Rose Clan) and Cawdor Castle (Campbell Clan) are nearby to.
Danchaslyn
Helen Mirren did not marry at Petty Church, she married at Ardersier Church, I attended the wedding, the church referred to as Petty Church in the context of this thread is not the church on the A96 at Tornagrain, that is a relatively modern church and Cemetery, the Church for Petty and the MacIntoshes is actually Behind Castle Stuart, many people do not know it is there, it stopped being used in the 50's. As well as the church there is the Family vault of the MacIntosh family, the roof of the vault recently collapsed and is under cover now with scaffold support, the cemetery has many old graves, I was born at Ardersier and my family are from Petty/Ardersier/Cory/Cawdor/Ardclach, and includes MacIntoshes, MacPhersons & Davidsons
Regards
Garry
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Hi I am looking to trace any further information on the family of Janet McIntosh (nee Tolmie). She is the daughter of Andrew Tolmie (don't have mothers info). She was born in Petty 4 June 1795 and married William McIntosh on 21 Feb 1818. The only child I have is my relative Margaret McIntosh who was worn abt 1824 and died 30 Nov 1863. She married John Smith.
Would anyone be linked or have any further information they could share?
Many Thanks
H
There is an Inscription at Petty Old Churchyard as follows; Erected by William Tolmie, father Andrew Tolmie, died Ballachaldrach 1824 aged 63 years. Mother Jean McKenzie died 2nd July 1811 aged 43 years.
Not sure if that is of interest to you or not :)
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Hello H L Robertson
Long time since you posted, and this reference is a bit of a long shot and may not be relevant to you; but I noticed a reference to the name 'Tolmie' in relation to Petty and Ardersier in a report on a ploughing match(!) in the Inverness Courier, Thursday 2nd March 1820 edition. This refers to what appears to be an annual ploughing match amongst members of The Practical Farming Society of Petty and Ardersier. The newspaper reports: "When the work was finished, and the field cleared, the judges proceeded to the ground, and after a minute inspection, awarded the prizes as follows:- The first to Lewis Holm, servant to Messrs Tulloh and Tolmie......."
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it, in case it is of interest.
CELTIC ANNIE
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Looking for a possible burial at the Petty Parish Church for my 2nd great grandparents
Donald Clark
BIRTH ABOUT 1785 Inverness-shire, Scotland
DEATH 15 SEP 1853 Petty, Inverness-shire, Scotland
He was schoolmaster in Petty for about 53 years. I recently found a baptism that may fit with birth 12 Nov 1783 and parents John Clark and Margaret McKenzie but that is unconfirmed. Simply right approximate date and right location.
Jean Campbell
BIRTH 24 JAN 1787 Petty, Inverness-shire, Scotland (possibly at Castle Stuart)
DEATH 19 OCT 1869 London, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada
I know the family left the schoolhouse after Donald's passing in 1853 and some of family came to Canada.
Given that Donald was in the area his whole life and was the schoolmaster, I would think he would be buried locally. The news report of a son William Clark 1807-1874, who passed in London, Ontario, reported that his father, grandfather and great grandfather were elders in the Presbyterian Church
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https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH7349
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It may be useful for someone. One of my ancestors was Rev John Morrison of Petty. He lived from 1701 to 1773.
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Hi Neil,
I'm interested in finding out more about your ancestor Ann Davidson from Petty who married Donald Smith. I have her dying in Rockfield, Tarbat in 1864 age 60. Her death certificate lists father as Alex Davidson, mother unknown but I can't find any further links.
There is an Ann Davidson born to Wm Davidson and Janet Anderson in Petty 1804 which would tie in with the dates I have. Can you shed any light on it?
Thanks
Donald
Hi Dav,
I just noticed your last posting and many of my ancestors are from the Fisherton Petty area (surnames Cameron, Tolmie, Patience, McIntosh). The Janet Cameron in your post caught my eye. I also have a Janet Cameron, b1767 in Petty with parents David Cameron and Ann McKenzie. Does this match your Janet?
I also have many Davidson's in my tree, but only one seems to have been born in Petty, Ann Davidson who married Donald Smith in Petty in 1827. All of my other Davidsons are from Croy (the parish next to Petty) and Moy, also very close to Petty.
Neil