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General => Technical Help => Topic started by: fluffnco on Sunday 03 October 04 17:08 BST (UK)
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Hi guys,
I've managed to get my front page uploaded and was wondering if someone could tell me what code I need to add to take the writing off the cover of the book I'm using as the background so that it looks as if it's been written on the page
http://www.rootschat.com/~ajmutch/
Ty in advance
Adele
aka Fluffnco
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false call folks! used the <ul> code and it worked a treat :)
Adele
Aka Fluffnco
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Glad it worked for you .... although it shouldn't :'(
UL is the command or tag to start an unordered list
A neater way would be to create a table and insert your information in the cells of the table
must say I do like your background notebook image
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Create a table :o We have to start carpentry too?!! (joking) ;)
Tables are a little out of my league unfortunately :) I taught myself basic html but I never did seem to be able to get my head round all those table tags. maybe I should spend a little time having another try though :)
Thought the background was quite fitting. Glad you like it
ty for the advice Bob
Adele
aka Fluffnco
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Adele,
Love your notebook background. Very appropriate. 8)
And you are self-taught, I will have to have a go if this is what you can do as a DIY project. (more carpentry) ;D
Kazza.
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Adel
I agree with Bob tables are much tidier.
A basic table code:
<table>Starts a table
<tr>Starts a row within the table
<td>opens a data cell to place text
Type in your text here.
</td>closes the data cell
</tr>closes the table row
</table>closes the table
You can add a border to the table all you need to do there is at the very beginning of the table code put in this<table border=2> you can have the border thicker just go up in the number. You can colour the border to just like you would with the background of the page.
Once you get the hang of it it is easy, until you get into tablkes within tables within tables then it gets harder but a more effective page can be done.
Anyway give it a try, youc an always delete it if you dont like it
:)
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Hi guys,
I've managed to get my front page uploaded and was wondering if someone could tell me what code I need to add to take the writing off the cover of the book I'm using as the background so that it looks as if it's been written on the page
http://www.rootschat.com/~ajmutch/
Ty in advance
Adele
aka Fluffnco
Adel
Wanted to looky at your webpage but it isnt working :(
Its bringing up all sorts of codes etc
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Adel
Wanted to looky at your webpage but it isnt working :(
Its bringing up all sorts of codes etc
I am getting the same. Looks like either a browser incompatability error or fonts, but seems like your using utf-8.
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<!-- saved from url=(0034)http://www.rootschat.com/~ajmutch/ -->
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>Џࡱက>?&?h?tq?}샀z??sↀp?눀y ?f ��r o
As you can see its corrupted at the body tag.
Adrian
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Thanks for the simple tables lesson Shanko. Now why couldn't I pick that up when I was trying to get around it the first time! :)
Thanks also for the heads up about the page not showing up. I attempted to upload a page made by my genealogy programme (generations) and it has obviously messed things up :(
Ahh well time to insert Table tabs in my saved index page and have another go :)
ty for all the advice btw......this site realy is the friendliest I've ever come across :)
Adele
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Adel
That is why Id rather use the good old Notepad to do the html code, these other fancy nancy ones which I have used dont do it the way I really want it.
Tables are fun when you get the hang of it
:)
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Adele,
You might find this site useful. Deals with a lot of "The basics" and is also useful as a referecne.
http://vzone.virgin.net/sizzling.jalfrezi/iniframe.htm
Adrian
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I've re uploaded my origional index page if you want to view it shanko.
I'm about to edit and insert a table to keep it on the notepads page area and I guess I'll just have to plod away in notepad and add pages when I have them done.
I do seem to be having a problem deleting the files that I uploaded from my genealogy folder from the website though via my ftp programme (and there are a lot of them too!) which is confusing me ;D but I'm easily confused so I guess that's nothing to worry about *grin*
hey off to work I go ;)
ty
Adele
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Adele
Youve done well :)
It looks really good, one thing I have learnt is that if you make mistakes and you spend ages fixing it you have learnt something! If I was you Id keep a copy of your html as a template incase you do delete part of the code by mistake, dont worry I have done that before!
Keep up the good work and if you get into a pickle and your pulling your hair out and screaming at the screen infront of you and cussing the computer coz its not doing it right then contact me and Ill help you
Have fun and well done!
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Adele,
You might find this site useful. Deals with a lot of "The basics" and is also useful as a referecne.
http://vzone.virgin.net/sizzling.jalfrezi/iniframe.htm
Adrian
Adrian
Thank you so much for this site. It's Brilliant! I've bookmarked it and am about to begin my education in tables ;)
Thanks Shanko! I've kept a basic notepad file with just the html codes etc in it so all I have to do is add info etc and save as whichever page I'm upto :)
Ok guess it's make or break time. Here goes....
No rest for the wicked ;)
Adele
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Adrian,
I'll add my thanks to Adele's. Just browsing through it I found two ideas which I intend to incorporate in my hypertext book (which I am itching to publish on RootsChat as a website, when I get the time !).
I know a site in german, with a similar idea, but being german, it's sometimes ponderous and harder to read. On the other hand, it has more click-on examples. So the two of them together, AND a good book - I find looking at text on a page is sometimes easier to understand than scrolling up and down a screen - should give me all I need.
เ propos books, I keep borrowing a book from the library "HTML 4.0" from Markt & Technik Publishing. I'll check tonight if it's a translation of an english-language book (the best ones usually are - germans again !) and post it on here.
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Just checked out the book, but it is german, and not a translation.
But I did find another web-site tutorial, that looks easy to use:
http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/dragndrop.htm
This site also has links to other sites. Not every (tutorial) site appeals to everbody, some sites may answer a particular question better than another, so try them all, to find the one that you feel is right for you !
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Adele,
Had a look at the site, very impressive. Will you be able to create a links bar to the left of the ring binder bit ?? Where did you get the Ybook.gif from, I have seen something similar in Microsoft Outlook as a Stationary option, but is not as good as this one.
Bob,
The German site might be interesting. My German is a little rusty but could probably cope. Always was better at technical German than conversational anyway. I use a book called Using HTML 4 (6th Edition) by Molly E Holzschlag published by QUE
Adrian
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But I did find another web-site tutorial, that looks easy to use:
http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/dragndrop.htm
Bob,
never seen that site before, thanks. Tried that drag and drop before but had so many problems ended up staying with CuteFTP.
I must admit (as Trystan will confirm) my HTML is not brilliant and I am not too ashamed to admit I still at the bottom of the learning curve (A reformed GUI users) and these sort of sites are great reference points.
Adrian
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Adele,
Had a look at the site, very impressive. Will you be able to create a links bar to the left of the ring binder bit ?? Where did you get the Ybook.gif from, I have seen something similar in Microsoft Outlook as a Stationary option, but is not as good as this one.
Adrian
Thanks Adrian for your comments on my page so far but I have to admit that Bob sent me the tables coding which has made it look so good.
The idea I have for setting up my page is to have it like an actual Family history book. My fella is going to make me another gif with just the cover pattern on it so it looks like the Front of the book and also one so that it looks like there is paper both sides of the spiral (as if the page has been turned). I will have a contents page with hyperlinks to each person/couple ie mother/father, grandparents,great grandparents etc at the front of the book and a name index hyperlinked to each person. It will be a lot of work but I think it will be great if I manage to pull it off :)
The ybook.gif is one I found years ago when I was setting up my geocities webpage (my first). I used to trawl sites for backgrounds and save them to floppy disc. Came across it again trawling through my floppies for a good background to use :)
Once again thanks for all the helpful advice and positive comments folks :)
Adele
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Hi Adrian,
the site is http://de.selfhtml.org/ and you can download the whole site for reading off-line (there is a special link for this on the first page).
As a general remark for everyone just starting out on HTML:
If you haven't done this before, remember you can try out anything you like, using a normal text editor (e.g. notepad), store it as a .htm or .html file and then look at it in your browser, offline, without actually loading it to a web space provider !
Sorry if this is re-stating the obvious, but those who "can" (me included !) are so used to it, that we sometimes forget just where the beginners begin from !!
So, try it out, and have fun !
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Glad the table was suitable for you.
One tip to remember when working with tables is to put in the border when initially setting up the table ,even if you don't want one there at all.
The borders can show where your table might not be going the way you want and can save plenty of headscratching trying to figure it out.
To turn the command on in the initial set up eg < table border=1" > would do it and then when you have the set up you want and you don't want the borders simply change the command to border="0" and they become invisible.