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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: Willow 4873 on Monday 04 October 04 14:53 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have a copy of the CD containing the names of all the soldiers who served in the First World War who could look someone up for me?
I am looking for my Great Uncle Mark Hilton. Family history is that he died in the First World War aged about 18 (my brother is named after him) but I can't find any reference or birth certificates to him or his brother Luke and it is really getting to me!
He was born in Wolverhampton and I believe he may have served in the Staffordshire Regiment as did his brother William and half brother Matthew Ralph
I have tried the CWGC but there is no mention of him there. The link is http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx if anyone is interested
If anyone has family who lived in and around Wolverhampton the Express & Star have a virtual cenotaph on their website. The link is http://www.expressandstar.com/es/heritage/cenotaph/
There is also a good site about the war memorials in Wolverhampton on Wolverhampton Remembers and the link is http://www.warmem.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Would be glad of any suggestions on where to try and find them next :)
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have you tried the medal rolls this might give you his army number so you could try for his army records
sandie
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Does anyone have a copy of the CD containing the names of all the soldiers who served in the First World War who could look someone up for me?
I am looking for my Great Uncle Mark Hilton. Family history is that he died in the First World War aged about 18 (my brother is named after him) but I can't find any reference or birth certificates to him or his brother Luke and it is really getting to me!
He was born in Wolverhampton and I believe he may have served in the Staffordshire Regiment as did his brother William and half brother Matthew Ralph
I have tried the CWGC but there is no mention of him there. The link is http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx if anyone is interested
If anyone has family who lived in and around Wolverhampton the Express & Star have a virtual cenotaph on their website. The link is http://www.expressandstar.com/es/heritage/cenotaph/
There is also a good site about the war memorials in Wolverhampton on Wolverhampton Remembers and the link is http://www.warmem.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Would be glad of any suggestions on where to try and find them next :)
There were no officers with the surname of HILTON.
There were only two M HILTON's listed as regular soldiers, but neither of them were
Matthew.
Reg Tank Corp
Name - Maxwell HILTON
Born - Hull
Enlisted - Middleborough Yorks
Died - 30th Sept 1918
Rank - Private
Killed in Action - France & Flanders
Number - 69830
Notes - Formerly 11643 Royal Fusiliers
Reg Lancashire Fusiliers, 18th Battalion
Name - Matthew Edward HILTON
Born -Prestwich Lancs
Date - died 22nd Oct 1917
Rank - Private
Died - Killed in action France & Flanders
Number - 35090
Rank - Private
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I really am getting nowhere fast!
Tried the medal rolls - no Mark listed. I am beginning the wonder if it is his middle name not his first. Have found a Henry M Hilton on the rolls list service number DM2/11824 and I do know that my G Grandparents had a son named Henry who died before he was 2 so I wonder if Mark was named Henry Mark?
Is there any chance someone could look it up for me?
I am also interested in a Luke Hilton service number 53829 because this might be his brother - there again I might be shooting at pie in the sky?!
I did find Matthew Ralph their half brother service number 3618
Why can none of this be simple or better still why can't the BMD have all their records in full with access from the internet so we can just look someone up
Yeah yeah I know - pigs might fly and then the price of bacon would go up!
As the old saying goes - you can choose your friends but not your family. Would be happy if I could just find some of mine ............... x
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Willow4874
The Cd you refered to is only for men who died during the first world war. I have checked your second request,there is no reference to an Henry Mark. I presume Luke survived so there is no way in checking him out via the CD.
In regards to sites containing reference to Rolls of Honour and War Memorials for Wolverhampton see my site as below.
Regards Doug
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Willow4874
Medal card of Hilton, Luke
Royal Garrison Artillery 53829 Gunner
Catalogue reference WO 372/9
I have looked through the men recorded on my site but have not found Mark.
Regards Doug
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Thanx guys guess I will just have to go back to the drawing board and see what else I can find out
BTW - good site Doug!
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My great grandfather was in the first world war and the boer war,John Benjamin selby I would like to have the medal roll site so i may check on him. thanks
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Here it is:
http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/research.asp
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http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/088746a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/088745a.gif
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where did you get this info from ericjami,, can anyone find this sort of info on their relatives if so how please tell ;D
sandie
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Hi and thank you for that info ,which I did already have but none the less thank you for helping me. Go here if you want to see if your family member is in there
www.archives.ca
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hi
i wonder if anyone can help, i have the medal card for my realtive and wondered how you go about getting the army records.
many thanks
serena
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Hi all, I was looking around for war memorial stuff today and Doug I found your site which I have to say is excellent. Unfortunately none of my rellies on there, except maybe one?
Willow did you ever find anything on Samuel Hilton? I haven't seen anything. Might help if my dad finds those medals!
Matthew Ralph's medal card says:
South Staffs reg, private 3618 and then..
Worcs reg, private, 39919
is this the same person in 2 regiments?
If it is, then he's on the cwgc site:
died 31/10/1916, Serre Rd Cemetery no.2, Somme, France.
Doug I saw on your site on heath park memorial an M J Ralph wondered if that's connected.
What happened to James Ralph (Matthew's brother) in the Staffords?
Either way, seems the names didn't bring much luck as Matthew and James' nephew was my great uncle James Matthew Kendrick b1904 Wolverhampton.
He died aged 36 on 11/01/1941 in Croydon, civilian war casualty. Couldn't find anything on him on Doug's site either, but I'm not really too clued up on how/where/when people were commemorated.
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Hiya Rachel
I haven't been able to find anything on Joseph at all. If there is a Matthew Ralph listed as in the Staffords that one is probably ours because William my grandfather also served in the Staffords (I dont mean Joseph I mean Samuel! Brain not working 2night)
I haven't found anything yet for James
That makes 8 rellies that were lost in the 2 world wars
Willow x
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Hello Willow, Think this is James Ralph on 1901.
The camps shrapnel barracks and royal horse infirmary, Charlton, London.
James Ralph 21 Driver, royal field artilery. W-ton, Staffs.
Thanks for the quick reply, by Joseph I take it you mean Samuel, or James Matthew K?
Arrrrrrrrrrrgh another infamous brain bleed LOL. :D
Btw someone just e-mailed me an image from 1851 for Hannah Boffy (Harriet Mears/James Mears sis) but my pc is buggered so I can't see it.
Maybe I can e-mail you it and you can transcribe what it says? I AM BLIIIIIIND! *laughs*
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Hiya Rachel
Just found on 1837 site on the overseas deaths
Cpl Samuel Hilton 6429 1917 S.R. (this lists the regiment - Staffordshire Regiment?) Vol I.10 Page 43
Now has anyone any idea how to get this information? Scrap that - just ordered it from the GRO. Hurry up postie!!!
Willow x
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Willow
Information fron SDGW CD rom
Samuel Hilton Cpl 6429
1st Battalion Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Born- Middlesborough
Enlisted- Bradford
Residence- Halifax
Killed in Action 4/11/17 France & Flanders.
The information from the Gro will just give name,regiment and that he was killed in action.
Hope this helps.
Regards Doug.
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Thanx Doug
Could you do a check on the other Samuel Hiltons for me? That isn't the one I'm looking for. Mine was born about 1895 in Wolverhampton
Also I know you have a website about the war memorials in Wolverhampton. Do you happen to have a list of the names on each memorial? I don't even know if he is listed on one
Willow x
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Willow
Samuel Hilton 10832 Private
1st Battalion South Wales Borderers
Born and Enlisted - Wolverhampton.
Killed in Action - 28/10/14
France & Flanders.
If you look at my site ;) you will see that each memorial has a list of names recorded with it.
Rehards Doug.
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Thanx Doug
Thats a great help I have checked all the memorials on your site but he doesn't appear to be on any of them.
There are several war graves in Bilston Cemetary - do you want me to take a note of the details when I'm over there and forward them on to you?
Willow x
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Is it possible that SKS could look up any records for GUNTER casualties in WW1 please? There is a possibility they were in the Welsh Guards or the "Queen's Regiment" (sorry I only have word of mouth to go by - no definite details). All lived in Glamorgan, S Wales.
I have located a medal card for a George E Gunter but I'm not sure if he is my relation? My Great Aunt is adamant that her Uncle (my G Grandfather's brother) George Elliot Gunter was lost in WW1 but the medal card I have found seems to indicate that he survived? She has also mentioned that "some of the other brothers were lost as well"???
Any information would be much appreciated :)
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Hiya Nigel
Have you tried the Commonwealth War Graves Commission? There are serveral Gunters listed on there
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
Willow x
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Hi, why don't you try logging onto:
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
Its a free site.
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Thanks for that :) Do you know if this holds the same info as the SDGW database?
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Not sure Nigel I haven't tried that one
Willow x
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Willow
Thaks for the offer,but I live 2 mins from the cemetery and have wandered around it many times.
Nigel
The answer to your question is no,SDGW gives where born,enlisted and residence on enlisting and also how the person died e.g killed in action died of wounds.
I will have a look on my SDGW for any Gunters
Regards Doug.
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Nigel
Had a look at the SDGW for Gunters there are three who were born in Glamorgan,only one called George.
George Gunter 74894 Gunner Royal Artillery
Born Merthyr Glam
Enlisted Mountain Ash,Glam
KIA 10/9/15 France & Flanders
Regards Doug.
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Doug - many thanks for that. The Mountain Ash reference looks spot on for him! ;D
Could I be very cheeky and ask for the details for the 2 other Glam Gunter details please?
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No prob Doug
Willow x
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Nigel
Frederick Somerton Gunter 16325 Private
9th Btn Royal Welsh Fusiliers
Born - Rhydyfelyn
Enlisted - Pontypridd
Killed in Action 25/9/15 France & Flanders
John G Gunter 7810 Private
1st Btn Royal Scots Fusiliers
Born & Enlisted Briton Ferry Glam
Died 16/615 France & Flanders
William Gunter 16891 Private
9th Btn Royal Welsh Fusiliers
Born - Briton Ferry Glam
Enlisted - Neath
Killed in Action 31/7/17 France & Flanders.
Regards Doug.
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Many thanks for the extra info Doug :)
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Nigel
My pleasure.
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I don't know if you have tried this site already but it maybe of interest...
This site is full of so much information and photographs
http://www.angelfire.com/mp/memorials/memindz1.htm
Wonderful site
Annie