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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: joboy on Saturday 18 March 06 03:44 GMT (UK)
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Richard MONEY owned Westcourt Manor at Inkpen 1622 and was buried at Inkpen in 1657.
Is anyone researching this name in this vicinity at about that time?.
joboy
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The name of MONEY is well known to historians in Newbury / West Berkshire. Walter MONEY published many books and articles on local history from the 1880s onwards. His 'The History of Newbury' (1887) is still the best book on the subject. He came from a well to do family that is quite likely to link to the Inkpen chap you mention.
If my memory serves me well the family is covered in one of the Herald's Visitations of Berkshire and may also be shown in Berry's book of Berkshire family trees (can't remember to exact title - the local studies library in Reading has a copy).
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Thank you Newburychap I shall try to find the tomes you mention here in OZ.
joboy
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Hi
I am also researching the Money family of Newbury and am actually related to Walter Money himself. I have read his books and there is a lot of information in them not only about the Money family but also about Newbury itself and other families there. My link comes via the Head family who were also very prominent in the area and who also feature a great deal in Walter Money's book "The History of Newbury". I haven't found the Money family mentioned in the Herald's Visitations for Berkshire but I may have missed them.
I have a large Money tree, several Wills, and other documents and would be happy to share details with you. It would be interesting to find someone else related to the Money family.
Interestingly my earliest Money ancestor is Laurence Money of Chievely who died in 1605. He was married to a woman named Grace and had 8 children including my ancestor Grace (b1574) and Richard (b1565). Could this Richard be related to your one? Perhaps his father?
Anyhow get in contact if you want more details.
Matt
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Thanks Matt,
Firstly I am not researching the MONEY family per se but rather doing a one name study of the name TWITCHIN.
It so happens that a daughter of Richard MONEY named Frances married Andrew TWITCHIN 15 June 1635.
I know that Richard MONEY's will proven in 1657 shows he bequeathed an annuity of 30 quid (no pound sign on keyboard) to his 'rebellious' son Richard and the Manor to be divided between his 3 daughters Margaret HERON (widow) Frances wife of Andrew TWITCHIN and Elizabeth HORE.
But you probably have this detail anyway.
If you can add any more it would be appreciated.
Joe
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I've just discovered that Laurence Money d 1605 was an ancestor of mine too and would be fascinated to learn more about the family
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Hi pilgrimrob and welcome to rootschat on your first post.
I have an extract of some 'Notes in support of a pedigree' by Leonard Jessopp Fulton compiled for a Henry Twitchin which is undated but Jessopp Fulton was an active legal eagle in early 1900's (google him).
In those notes he says;
'There was no manor of Ingpen (sic) within historical times.The parish was divided into two manors ... East Court and West Court.
The Twitchin were associated with the latter.
Possibly Humphrey de Ingpen who paid a mark for unjust dis-seizin in Berkshire was owner of the Manor of Ingpen,afterwards known as Westcourt.This manor passed through several hands and was ultimately sold by one William Picard to one Richard Money in 1622".
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I dont know when this Richard Money died but his will was proven in 1657 as I said in reply #4 ....... and the balance of Jessopp Fulton's notes relate only to the Twitchin line.
We know that Richard Money had a 'rebellious' son 'Richard' but there is no indication of other male offspring ... the three females are covered in reply #4
I do hope this will help to kickstart your need for more information.
Joe
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Thanks Joe -- I will send my sister to investigate Inkpen! I am sure your Richard and my Laurence were related (as Matt suggests) and would love to work it all out. Laurence was my 14th g grandfather and I am descended from his son Richard b 1565 at Chieveley, and his son Symon b 1607.
(Symon did have a son Richard, b 1629 at Hurst, but I don't think he was your Richard; his son Richard was b 1654 making him rather young to be the"disobedient" Richard of the 1657 will!)
Cheers
Rob
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Thanks Joe -- I will send my sister to investigate Inkpen! I am sure your Richard and my Laurence were related (as Matt suggests) and would love to work it all out. Laurence was my 14th g grandfather and I am descended from his son Richard b 1565 at Chieveley, and his son Symon b 1607.
(Symon did have a son Richard, b 1629 at Hurst, but I don't think he was your Richard; his son Richard was b 1654 making him rather young to be the"disobedient" Richard of the 1657 will!)
Cheers
Rob
Hi there
I am descended from Richard's sister Grace Money (b1574 Chieveley). She married James Head in Chieveley in 1599 and died in Chievely in 1661, 20 years after James died. I would love to know more about Richard's descendants, who did he marry, who was Symon married to, were there any other children and when did they did? Also what work did they do?
Matt
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Hi Matt,
(Please note: The following is from IGI with one or two dates from a couple of Ancestry family trees. I like to verify such info with parish records but haven't done so yet.)
Laurence had eight children including your Grace and my Richard, b 1565, m Gillian Battell (b Hurst, 1569) m June 7, 1590, and they had Symon b 1607, in Hurst. (Only child I've found so far).
Symon married Mary Farrer (also b 1607) in 1628. Four children, with my line continuing through Richard Money, b 1629. Richard married Elizabeth (b about 1640) and I've found two children Richard (not too sure about him as his birth is given as 1654 when Elizabeth would have been about 14!) and John, b 1663 in Thatcham.
John married twice. First marriage was to Abigail, 1665-85, and their son Thomas was born in Letcombe Regis in 1685, the year of her death. (He then married Ursula Steele and there were four children).
Thomas Money married Hannah Savage in 1706 and there were eight children. My line continues through Richard, b 1709, who married Hester Knap, b 1717 in Blewbury. They had 8 children, including my final Money, Hester, b 1737,who married Richard Bavis (or Beavis) in 1757 in Steventon. The Beavis family married into a series of Fletchers and Priors of Steventon, finally producing Mary Ann Fletcher of Steventon, 1856-1944, my g grandmother.
My Steventon ancestors all seemed to have been agricultural labourers. I suspect the Beavis family and the Moneys (in particular) were higher up the social scale. Would love to know more about the Moneys.
That's the condensed version!
Cheers
Rob
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Hi Matt,
(Please note: The following is from IGI with one or two dates from a couple of Ancestry family trees. I like to verify such info with parish records but haven't done so yet.)
Laurence had eight children including your Grace and my Richard, b 1565, m Gillian Battell (b Hurst, 1569) m June 7, 1590, and they had Symon b 1607, in Hurst. (Only child I've found so far).
Symon married Mary Farrer (also b 1607) in 1628. Four children, with my line continuing through Richard Money, b 1629. Richard married Elizabeth (b about 1640) and I've found two children Richard (not too sure about him as his birth is given as 1654 when Elizabeth would have been about 14!) and John, b 1663 in Thatcham.
John married twice. First marriage was to Abigail, 1665-85, and their son Thomas was born in Letcombe Regis in 1685, the year of her death. (He then married Ursula Steele and there were four children).
Thomas Money married Hannah Savage in 1706 and there were eight children. My line continues through Richard, b 1709, who married Hester Knap, b 1717 in Blewbury. They had 8 children, including my final Money, Hester, b 1737,who married Richard Bavis (or Beavis) in 1757 in Steventon. The Beavis family married into a series of Fletchers and Priors of Steventon, finally producing Mary Ann Fletcher of Steventon, 1856-1944, my g grandmother.
My Steventon ancestors all seemed to have been agricultural labourers. I suspect the Beavis family and the Moneys (in particular) were higher up the social scale. Would love to know more about the Moneys.
That's the condensed version!
Cheers
Rob
Well I have the same info on Richard Money Gillian Battell, plus their son Symon's marriage (although I didn't know he was their son before). Having the rest of this will help tie the ends up as the Moneys were quiet a well established and large family. Yes they do appear to have been further up the social ladder (as were the Head family) and left several large Wills and appear to have a good deal of money (no pun intended). I will check through the notes I have and see if I can find anything else that helps with your Money line but it may take me a few weeks to do as I am a bit busy at the moment. Hope that's ok
Matt
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Hi Matt.
Look forward to that, when you have the time.
Rob
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Hi from thomas money 1685 M1706. Hannah Savage 1685. Their son john money 1706 M. 1730 Mary chaund 1706 had 8kids one was henry money 1731 M. 1754 anne edmunds 1736 they had 12 kids it looks like from family search. Their child mary money 1757 M. 1778 Ambrose strange 1760 berks this is my line the stranges and moneys 7 gens from them is me lol trying to find who ambrose parents are
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Hello everyone, I'm late to the party here, but would be interested in getting in touch with MattD30, as it sounds as though you have access to a lot of family info. I'm currently working on my husband's family tree. He's descended from Walter Money's brother James Henry (the architect) and I'm trying to find out whatever I can both about James Henry's son Frederick (my husband's great grandfather), and about Walter and James Henry's ancestors.
At the moment I'm stuck on Walter and James Henry's grandparents. I have their parents as John Money (1785-1874) and Maria MacLachlan (1794-1884), but I don't know where or when John and Maria got married.
Nor do I know John's father (let's call him "X" Money), or his paternal grandfather ("Y" Money), although it looks as though "Y" Money, born around 1720, was the son of Joseph Money (b.1656). I've managed to get a line back from Joseph Money to Richard Money, born around 1500, who married Ann Andrews in Sutton Courtenay, Berkshire, in 1546 - but I have lots of gaps!
Matt, if you have any contact with living descendants of James Henry Money (or indeed Walter), I'd be fascinated to get in touch with them as well, to see if I can add to any of our family lore.
Thanks in advance! I have to make three posts here before I can PM or be PM-ed by anyone, so I'll have to think of some more things to say :-)
All the best, Sarah
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Hello Sarah,
Welcome to Rootschat - I'm sure you will find a lot of helpful members here.
Just to start;
John Money - m - Maria McLachlen 23-8-1827 Shaw cum Donnington, Berks
James Henry Money - m - Martha Jane Vincent 6-11-1862 Newbury St.Nicholas
I haven't found any birth/Baptisms for either.
Taken from the Marriage CD ex Berks FHS
I don't have any "Money" anestors in my tree and only saw the above when I had the CD open and looking for some of mine.
Alan
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Alan, you are a star! Thank you so much. I’ve been slaving over Ancestry and FamilySearch - how on earth did I miss that? That fits exactly with what I would have expected to find. Great stuff.
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Hi Sarah,
I didn't receive a notification of your reply so apologise for not replying earlier.
What I have found are 6 baptisms (all with parents James Henry Money & Martha Joan) all in Speenhamland, Berks from 1864 to 1872. Of the six is a James Henry Money bapt. 11-1-1872.
James Henry Money (the father) is recorded as a Architect.
As I mentioned before I haven't found any baptisms for either John Money & James Henry Money.
I can send details of the children if you would like them.
Alan
Added- I missed adding these entries;
Elizabeth Laura Vincent - bapt 10-7-1840 Newbury St.Nicholas (d/o Frederick & Caroline - Solicitor
Martha Joan " " 25-1-1842 " " " " "
Hope these help
Alan
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Once again, thank you Alan! I think I do already have details of these children, but I am going to be away until the middle of next week, so I won’t have access to my files until then. I’m going to have to ask for help about a slightly earlier period in the Money family history when I get back, so thanks in advance to you (or anyone else!) who can help on that.
In the meantime, wishing everyone a lovely week!
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Hi Sarah
Sorry it's taken me a while to reply to your post here, I have been researching a number of other different families lately and probably didn't even notice the email about this.
I will say that I haven't done any work on the Money family for years but I can see what I have that may help. If you drop me pm with your email details I will get back in touch and let you know what I have.
Hope to hear from you soon
Matt