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Title: Andrews Family tree
Post by: Jemz on Monday 27 March 06 13:41 BST (UK)
Hi everyone

Im new today and signed up coz everyone seems so helpful :D
Im trying to find some family members this may get a bit confusing but sticky with me
I am the great great grandaughter of a man called Edward Andrews i believe he married a lady called Annie Tidmarsh i then believe they had 9 children and they are edward, Fanny, Florence (Flossy), Charlie, William (Willie), John, Lizzie, Sidney (my great grandad) and Horris  :P
Basically im trying to find and relatives of these children any info is a great help thanks

Jemz ;D
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 27 March 06 13:58 BST (UK)
Hi Jemz

Welcome to Rootschat!  :)

Please could you add some dates and places to your request?  Maybe you could post a census that you have found them on, or at least the reference?

Are you looking for living relatives, or trying to extend your tree?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: Jemz on Monday 27 March 06 15:02 BST (UK)
Ok sorry
my great great granda was born 1853
he married a lady called Annie Tidmarsh in 1880 refence number Elham 2a 1702
their children were born 1882,1885,1887,1889,1891,1894,1896,1898and 1900
hope taht helps
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 27 March 06 15:07 BST (UK)
To help everybody looking, the reference (S14) for that marriage on the Kent Registration Services Site (if I am correct) would relate to a marriage at Folkestone (Kent) parish church (St Mary) http://extranet3.kent.gov.uk/sp/rois/home.html

Would Folkestone be the right area?

Casalguidi
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: Jemz on Monday 27 March 06 15:18 BST (UK)
Yes i believe that would be right thank u
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 27 March 06 15:51 BST (UK)
It looks like they had a daughter Annie as well ....................

1891 - 24 North Street, Folkestone ..........

Edward ANDREWS head mar 36 labourer b.Folkestone
Annie wife 29 b.Folkestone
Annie dau 9 b.Folkestone
Edward son 7 b.Folkestone
Fanny dau 6 b.Folkestone
Florrie dau 4 b.Folkestone
Charlie son 2 b.Folkestone

rg12/748 folio 51 page 46
......................

I'll post the 1901 as well so as it's clearer for everybody to see just who we are looking for and perhaps get some ideas of what to look for etc. ;)

1901

47 Bridge Street, Folkestone

Edward ANDREWS head mar 47 house carpenter b.Folkestone
Ann wife 42 b.Folkestone
Edward son unm 17 carter b.Folkestone
Fanny dau 16 b.Folkestone
Flossy dau 14 b.Folkestone
Charlie son 12 b.Folkestone
Willie son 10 b.Folkestone
John son 7 b.Folkestone
Lizzie dau 5 b.Folkestone
Sidney son 3 b.Folkestone
Horris son 4m b.Folkestone

Rg13/849 folio 105 page 28
.............................

Ok, I take it that you are trying to look for descendants ie. children and grandchildren of all the above after 1901 ???  No easy task - there were quite a few ANDREWS' families in Folkestone and it might be quite easy to get the various families mixed up ;)

Do you know if they all stayed in Folkestone? 
Do you know who any of them married and where they lived?
Or perhaps when any of them died/where buried or anything at all?

Casalguidi


Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: Jemz on Monday 27 March 06 16:04 BST (UK)
Hi
i know Sidney frank andrews married a lady called mary lee in elham in folkestone in 1919 they had two sons that i know of and they are Ronald Charles Andrews and William Frank Andrews im Ronalds grand-daughter
and yes i believe thy all stayed and lived in folkestone
thats all i know
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: lizdb on Monday 27 March 06 16:58 BST (UK)
This could be a toughie!!

I thought I would give you a hand by looking through the birth indexes (currently free on Ancestry) for births of babies with surname Andrews, with mother's maiden name LEE, from 1919 onwards, to find William Frank and Ronald Charles, along with any other siblings.
I THOUGHT I would nip through about 10 years for you!

However, it is a big task, as there are several pages of Andrews for each quarter, and there are obviously several Andrews/Lee marriages around at the time!

I just did 2 years, and here are the births of Andrews/Lee babies in 1919 and 1920:

JFM 1919 Arthur  Hull 9d 359
AMJ 1919 George G  Brentford 3a272
AMJ 1919 Joan B  Hammersmith 1a 262
JFM 1920 Kenneth Woolwich 1d 2951
JFM 1920 Robert Hartlepool 10a 409
JFM 1920 William F Elham 2a 2758
AMJ 1920 Hilda J Bristol 6a 495

Looks like I found William, but it will take a bit of time to go through a number of years looking for others. As I said, it is free, so if I were you, Jemz, I'd go for it!
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: Jemz on Monday 27 March 06 19:18 BST (UK)
i know its given me a brain ache how do i find out that all the people above are related im getting all confused :-[
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 28 March 06 10:11 BST (UK)
The point is - I dont think they are related, but they just make the point that that there was more than one Andrews/Lee marriage around at that time, so don't take anything you find as Andrews/Lee as some long lost sibling and try to squeeze them into your tree by inventing all sorts of theories about how he gave the wrong name, the wrong age and the wrong place of birth on some later census or something!!!!!

(How often that seems to be done! The value of the complete indexes is that one can see just how many people of a particular name of that there are around, and therefore how easy it is to go off tracing the wrong ones!)

It looks from the births I found that I found your William Frank's birth.
If you are pretty sure they never strayed far from Elham/Folkestone area, I would carry on looking quarter by quarter from 1921, and just note any Andrews/Lee children in the 2a area, especially those that say Elham! I dont know what area Folkestone comes under, or whether neighbouring parishes all fall under Elham registration area, so that is why it worth jotting down all from a slightly wider area, just in case they pop up at a later date in your research.
All the best
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: Jemz on Tuesday 28 March 06 10:58 BST (UK)
so are these children related to sidney frank or not this is proving to be more hard work then its worth at the mo ???
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: casalguidi on Tuesday 28 March 06 11:28 BST (UK)
You could try contacting the "Folkestone Herald" ............... they often print articles about people looking for lost relatives

http://www.folkestone.ws/folkestoneherald170305

Try to give them as much information as you know already.

Good luck

Casalguidi
Title: Re: Andrews Family tree
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 28 March 06 17:37 BST (UK)
so are these children related to sidney frank or not this is proving to be more hard work then its worth at the mo ???

From the info we have, (i.e that they lived in Elham) it looks like William F could well be Sidney's son, esp if you already had an idea he had a son called William Frank.

But you'd need to get certificate for any more info.

The others are most likely all red herrings! Sorry I confused you with them!


What else are you wanting to know?  It seems Wiiliam Frank was born JFM 1920, - does that help? Were you wanting births of any of his siblings?

Would love to help you not confuse you!!!!!!!!!!!!