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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Cardiganshire => Topic started by: cardiff on Saturday 09 October 04 10:06 BST (UK)
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My GGG grandfather Richard Probert B. 1841-1843 Pantrhiwfelin/Tanyfelin/Melindwr. Im confused all these places are given as his place of birth on census info.
I have been unable to find Richards birth in the St catherins index.Can anyone confirm these places were in the area of Melindwr/ Llanbadarn Fawr.
The Probert family were all Blacksmiths and I have found who I believe to be Richards father William Probert b.Kent 1811 -Blacksmith 1881 census shows living Tanrhiwfelin .
Any help would be great many thanks
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Hi all
Thought I would let you know have now found Richard's birth... a lesson learned He was christened and named William but chose to call himself Richard.. it may have been because his father was william and they where both Blacksmiths. Plus St cathe rins entery is William .and the local Registra at time 1840 entered his surname under Roberts Not Proberts...
He was born In Tanrhiwfelin which is'nt in Melindwr it wa llanbadarn -y-Croyddin Upper.
A BIG THANK YOU to the Registra of Aberystwyth a real tropper.
cheers cardiff
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See my post regarding 1841 census, Llafihangel y Croyddin is part of the parish of Llanbadarn Fawr.
I also agree the ladies at the Registrar's Office and the Records Office at Aberystwyth are always most helpful.
Cheers Dave 8)
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Hi
thanks for the info what is the heading of 1841 census you suggested i look at.
cheers cardiff
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Hi Cardiff
The heading is, 1841 - 51 - 61 census lookup. It was a post you made 22 Nov 04 and is under Cardiganshire Lookup Requests.
I have only been with Rootschat about 6 months and I have been trawling through Cardiganshire posts hoping to clear up some of the backlog - especially those that received no answer. I found your William Probert on 1841 census in Llanbadarn.
Hope it's of some use.
Cheers Dave 8)
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Hi Cardiff,
if you get the chance to look at the historical directories, they should also list your Proberts as blacksmiths. They should give you a bit of intermediary information. I have a couple for Aberystwyth at home, I'll have a look tonight see what I can find.
D
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I find this interesting. I have an ancestor from Llanbadarn fawr which is listed on censuses as Radnorshire, Breconshire and Cardiganshire. Where was it? Really?
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I always thought there was only the one Llanbadarn Fawr, the one neighbouring Aberystwyth, hence on Ceredigion (Cardiganshire).
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/LlanbadarnFawr/index.html
Looking at the Genuki site, there was however also one in Radnorshire:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/RAD/LlanbadarnFawr/
Hope this helps a bit.
D
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Thanks DD
Any help will be great if you find any info on the Proberts I will jumpppppppppfor joy
cheers cardiff
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Hi Cardiff
Did you look at the info I posted on your Proberts in 1841 in Llanfihangel y Croyddin, Cards? You will find it in Look Up Requests under the heading 1841-51-61 census lookup.
Hope it helps.
Cheers Dave 8)
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Hi Dave
Thanks for the info.. I have left off the family tree for a few months to get a fresh look at it... Your info has started the ball rolling once again.
cheers cardiff
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Sorry for the delay.
I had a look at the Trades directories I have for Aber, and they do include Llanbadarn Fawr, but there is no Blacksmith named Probert.
You could always check out the historical directories site. Its worth it for the description of the towns.
D
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Thanks for your feed back . I have now found The Probert family .. The Proberts lived at the same address Tanrhiwfelin from 1840 on an old map I have found Tanriwfelin on the map of Capel Sieon with a Smithy. I found William Probert in Llanbadarn croyddin Upper this is a township 4 miles south east from the parish church of Llanbadarn Fawr and 5 miles from Aber. The commercial directory gives ..
Probert, W , Blacksmith Tanrhiwfelin.
It proves if you keep looking they are out there.
Thank you so much for taking the time and making the effort.
Happy hunting
cheers cardiff
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I think it was your entry about Jenkins blacksmith in Abermagwr - just to let you know the smithy is still there!! I live in Abermagwr so any local knowledge needed please ask - if I dont know I'll ask someone who's lived here longer than me...
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Hi shavenuw
I'm completly blown away... I never thought after all these year it would still be there ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The last record I have of the Jenkins as Blacksmiths in Abermagwr is my gg grandmothers brother Richard Jenkins his son also named Richard was a Blacksmith.
Do you know if there are any local photos of that area?
I have never been to Abermagwr only Aberystwyth and Llanafan where my grandfathers family come from.
I'm completly blown away. I feel a trip coming on :D :D :D :D
Any info about the village would be great
thank you so much
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Just another thought, I dont know if you're using old spelling but Llanfihangel y Creuddyn is about 3 miles from Abermagwr. Good pub there does nice meals...