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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dunbartonshire => Topic started by: eilidh on Monday 03 April 06 07:10 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I have received a copy of my Grandparent's wedding certificate 20th October, 1922 which states that my grandmother resided at Bremners Land, Duntocher. My mother's birth certificate also lists this address. For the past few days I have been trying to find out where Bremners Land is but to no avail. Hoping someone with local knowledge will be able to help me.
Many thanks
Helen from Brisbane, Australia
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Hi Helen
there is a row of cottages built on the main street duntocher and they are
called bremners cottages I guess this could be the place you are looking for
I dont know the exact date of when these houses were built.
regards
winniep :)
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Hello, many thanks for your input. It's really frustrating when you cannot locate an address. My elderly mother thought she was born on a farm? I do know that my grandfather was a miner later on in Baillieston. I will follow up on your info regarding the row of cottages. Maybe it will reveal something. Appreciate your help. Bye Helen :)
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hi helen
when I was growing up just a long the road from the cottages there was a farm so it could have been part of the land I think the farm belonged to a family called Steel. My aunt used to stay in the prefabrication houses which were built behind the farm hope this is of help
regards
winniep
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Hi Helen,
I noticed that you said your grandfather was a miner in Baillieston.
I have MI's for both Crosshill/Baillieston Old Parish and St. John's Churches in Baillieston so if you think any of your ancestors might be buried in either of them, get back to me and I'll have a wee look.
Anne
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Hello Anne, thanks for your kind offer, message sent to you direct, bye for now Helen
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I have come across the same thing on several certificates and census for Duntocher - Newlands Land, McKays Land - which became part of Main Street, McLaughlins Land, which also formed part of Main Street, Donalds Land, Yates Land etc.
I think that they were original farm lands, and the street names were given to these areas after houses started being built.
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You might also find that they were tenement buildings and were named after either the person who built them or the person who owned them.
Anne
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Thanks Ann, Debbie & Winnie, I appreciate all your input. Makes a lot more sense to me now. Bye for now Helen
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Helen, I have also a birth in Bremners Land, Duntocher - Isabella Chambers born 25th Feb 1899, daughter of James Chambers and Isabella (Bella) Morrison.
Any connection to yours? I have also 'mining' family in Baillieston about the same time period as yours - Hewitts and Gibsons.
regards,
Lindsay
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Hello Lindsay, unfortunately I have just started my mother's family history so am unable to say if we have any links. If I come across any, I will let you know. Bye for now Helen
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hi helen
I got your message about the photographs I do not have digital camera
yet but my friend and I will take pictures at the weekend and forward them to your personal e-mail address. by the way debbie and I are related :) :)
winniep
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thank you so much winniep, really appreciate the time you are taking to help me out, looking forward to receiving the pics, bye for now Helen
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There's alot of 'lands' in duntocher, smiths land, munns land and so on.
The whole area was farming, and it really meant they lived on the farmers land. T
he majority of the houses in duntocher are not that old, but most areas/houses are named after historical things in the area, (the old mill is actually a car garage etc) it's amazingly unlikely the houses or even the area your family were in at the time are still there in anything like the same form.
There is bremmners cottages, and there was a bremmners department store (in the old fashioned sence of the word). I beleive there is still one at milport but not sure if that'll help you trace family!
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http://www.theclydebankstory.com/story_TCSA09.php
for interest only
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Thanks littlejaffa for your info. I am really interested in finding out where my granny lived and my mother was born. I am hoping to get a picture of the Bremner Cottages to show my mother which might stir up some memories. Bye Helen
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managed to get a picture of Bremners Cottages I will get my friend to download it and send it as soon as possible
winniep :)
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Thank you so much winniep, I really appreciate you taking the time to do this for me, please pass on my thanks to your friend for her assistance, bye for now Helen
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the followign link might help jog your mums memory - it's main street duntocher in 1900-ish
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:0jy2XYOUroAJ:www.west-dunbarton.gov.uk/library/DisplayArticle.asp%3FID%3D1084+duntocher+main+street&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=2
for your interest this link gives more info on what was going on in duntocher at the time
http://www.wdcweb.info/library/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=3723
you might find duntochers called different things depending on the time frame your searching in - including DUNTOCHAR & Drumthoker
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Hi littlejaffa, once again a big thanks for your information and links. I will start googling on the different variations of the township name. bye Helen
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hi helen
I have forwarded the photos from my works computer I sent is as Photos of
bremners cottage as it is now
hope this helps
regards
winniep ;)
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thank you so much winniep, received photos this morning. I really appreciate you taking the time to get these for me. Bye for now Helen
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Hi Eilidh, I am just south of the border from you. :) Debbie in B.C. and Winniep are both related to me, and I also have come across Bremners Land in my searches. What surnames are you researching?
Helen
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Having grown up in Clydebank(born Mountblow lived Faifley & Dalmuir) I loved looking at the photos.
I remember the little cafe which was opposite Goldenhill Park(Main St Duntocher) one day my little sister was parked outside whilst we went into buy ice-creams.Terrible screams were heard & we all rushed outside to find a Donkey which had escaped from it's field was busy licking Elizabeth & her "pokey hat"She still has a phobia re Donkeys forty years on!
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Hi Joette, it is truly amazing how much I am learning about where my mother was born. I just loved your comment about your sister's "pokey hat". It brought back memories of when I was a little girl (too many decades ago) :) My sister and I sometimes would break off the cone at the bottom and dip it into the icecream and make a wee "pokey hat". I haven't heard an icecream cone called that in years, thanks for the memory, bye Helen
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Used to(admit it still do that!).Was back in Clydebank about ten days ago & will be back in another four weeks.It has changed so much & yet there is still so much of what it used to be.
Antoinine Wall goes through Duntocher,Hardgate,OK & Faifley.Not forgetting the Druid stones behind Edinbarnet school where we used to picnic(hot choc & corned beef & tomato rolls in the Winter) We used to sledge there on occasions & I remember once we sledged in the same pushchair-including my Mum!What can I say we got a surprise half-day from school(probably ran out of oil or somesuch) & it snowed quickly & deeply enough to sledge.
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Hi Eilidh, The Bremners Land you are looking for was a row of two storey's houses. They ran from Westend House (O'Neil's...still there) to Westend Pub (Filshies. ....still there). Address is Main Street Duntocher. They were demolished by the Council. The Bremners Cottages were built in 1950s/60s. Lots of Duntocher folks were born in these houses on Bremners Land, the Bremners were Farming folks.
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Hi Eilidh, Found this old photo, to the left are the houses on Bremners Land. there were doors at the front...and doors to the back entrance from stone stairs with metal railings. Helps a wee bit. myyran.
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The use of a surname and the word LAND in this context was, in Scotland, a common way of describing rented housing in multiple occupation. Here is a quote from 1829:
In Embro', where The Land means, ye ken, a Tenement or Tenements, a batch o' houses
Imber
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Hi Imber, I always thought 'land' meant the houses were built on Farmers Land. Thankyou for your info. Myyran.