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Title: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: JackieG on Sunday 09 April 06 06:31 BST (UK)
If anyone has access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER would it be possible to do a lookup for me of a couple of Swiss names.
I'd like to verify where ancestors originated in Switzerland.
The names I am chasing are CARISCH or DE CARISCH and SEMADENI.
Thank you
Jackie
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Sunday 09 April 06 11:06 BST (UK)
I don't have access to the Swiss surname register, but this might be of interest from "Dictionnaire Historique et Biographique de la Suisse":

Carisch 
Family from canton Graubünden, established in several communities. 
Otto Carisch, b. 10 Oct 1789, Sarn; d. 17 Jul 1858: studied theology at Bern and Berlin, professor at Coire 1819 and 1837-1851, pastor at Poschiavo 1824-1825.  Author of teaching manuals and edifying tracts, as well as a Romanche language dictionary, and a translation of the New Testament into the Romanche dialect spoken in the Oberland.

Semadeni (also de Samadeno)
Family from Poschiavo (canton Graubünden).
Wolfinus-Thomasius de Samada: mentioned as a witness in 1288.
Thomasus, Petrus and Fancus de Samadeno: mentioned in 1370.
Giuseppe Semadeni: schoolmaster and municipal secretary 1798-1861 and author of a manuscript history of the parish of Poschiavo.
Antonio Semadeni (1824-1884): Swiss consul in Warsaw.
Tomaso Semadeni (1821-1884): municipal secretary.
A branch of the family obtained citizenship of Guarda (Lower Engadine) around 1870; another branch can be found in Warsaw.  A member of the latter branch is Wladislaus Semadeni (b. 1865), superintendant of the Protestant church.

Rambler
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: JackieG on Sunday 09 April 06 14:37 BST (UK)
Thanks Rambler
I have an Otto De Carisch born around 1800 in Sarn. He married in Brusio and had children in Poschiavo.
My grandfather Giacomo Rudolfo Carisch dropped the "De" when he came to England pre 1900.  I found him on the 1901 census.
Also I have a Tomaso Semadeni 1767 - 1848.
Looks like I am looking in the right area. Stacks of them in the Poschiavo Graubunden area.
If you have easy access to the information, would you mind also looking up GODENZ family and MINI for me? Or point me in the right direction if the information is online? I can't find it anywhere.
The LDS obviously gathered  loads of records in the area of Poschiavo which was great for me to find.
Thanks again for the information so far.
Jackie
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Sunday 09 April 06 19:09 BST (UK)
The DHBS is sitting in a bookcase to the left of the computer, so no hassle to look things up!

Godenzi (fomerly de Gaudentiis)
Family from Poschiavo.
Bernardinus Godenzi: Doctor of Divinity, vicar-general, custodian of Coire cathedral 1630-1655.  Erected an altar to St Gaudentius in the cathedral in 1665. Died 31 Jul 1668.

Nothing for Mini, I'm afraid.

I don't know much about that region of Switzerland (my husband's family are mainly from Neuchâtel and Bern), but it's a beautiful area.

Rambler. 
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: JackieG on Sunday 09 April 06 22:59 BST (UK)
Thanks again Rambler,
It sounds like most branches of the family were upstanding citizens. I imagine my grandfather was among the undesirables the Swiss encouraged to emigrate to other countries with cash incentives. My Grandmother told us he was sent away with his brother because they were a bit wild!
Jackie
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: winston on Monday 10 April 06 22:21 BST (UK)
Hi

Off topic slightly but here is your grandfather on the 1891 census - staying with some this man

Julius Semadens aged 36 Poschiavo, Switzerland Head  Tunbridge  Kent  Occ - Confectioner

He is married with two young children who were born in Tunbridge Wells


Giacomo Codiferri aged 19 born Poschiavo, Switzerland Servant  Tunbridge  Kent  - he is single and working as a Confectioner's Assisitant


Wendy
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: JackieG on Tuesday 11 April 06 00:54 BST (UK)
Hi Wendy
Thanks but I am not sure that this Giacomo Codiferri would be my grandfather. The birth date and place of birth fit  but the surname is not even close.
I am coming to the conclusion that he had not arrived in England by the time of the 1891 census. I can't find his first wife Orsolina Semadeni or his brother Teodoro Carisch who left (was kicked out of) Poschiavo at the same time either. I have been searching for any Orsolina, Lina, Teodoro, Theodore and Giacomo. Nothing quite fits.
On the 1901 census I found Giacomo Carisch as Carissh... spelling not quite right. I have found the marriage record for Giacomo and Orsolina in 1893 and births of their children Ines Orsolina 1895 and Rudolfo Giacomo 1898. The wife and family have disappeared on the 1901 census. I think they possibly went back to Switzerland. Giacomo is listed as married at this point. Then in 1917 he married my grandmother Lilian Jenden. The marriage certificate arrived today! He is listed as a widower 45. My grandmother was 17 at the time!
I await the 1911 census!
Jackie



Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Pelican on Monday 19 June 06 05:00 BST (UK)
Hello

Rambler wrote this:

The DHBS is sitting in a bookcase to the left of the computer, so no hassle to look things up!

Hope this is so, could you do a look up for me please.

How far does it go back please? I have Gillott/Gillett/Gillet etc in my tree and I have read somewhere that they may have come from Switzerland, France or the Low Countries. However their immigration to UK would have been pre 1650.

I am in the very early stages. I do not as yet have a definite immigrant, only a family legend. Working on that at the moment and doing eliminations and early exploration of the possibility!!! I expect this job to be a marathon!

Any enlightenment at this stage will be very welcome.

Very best wishes

Pelican
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Monday 19 June 06 07:00 BST (UK)
Hi Pelican,

There are certainly Gillet families in Switzerland:

1.  A family in the canton of Fribourg, which originated in France (Savoie region), and came to Switzerland in the 1800s.

2.  2 families in the canton of Geneva (also spelled Gilet) - one dates from before 1601; the other pre-1617.

3.  A family in the canton of Valais (also spelled Gilliet), dating from at least the 1500s.

So it looks like France and Switzerland remain possibilities.  8)

Good hunting!

Rambler
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Pelican on Monday 19 June 06 07:49 BST (UK)
Thank you very much indeed Rambler for that very prompt reply. Very much appreciated.

It does seem likely that both Switzerland and France remain possibilities.

I was sitting here thinking, the legend has it that the Gillet's came over with the Eley's, various spellings, and that both families were weavers of fine silk hose. Is there a family by that name in your register please? Does it give trades by any chance?

My what a long shot that is!!!

Grateful thanks

Pelican
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Monday 19 June 06 08:10 BST (UK)
Nothing about silk weaving, but trades aren't often mentioned.  I can't see an Eley family (with any spelling) - closest would be Egli.  (Quite a few separate Egli families all over Switzerland.)

Rambler
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Pelican on Monday 19 June 06 08:39 BST (UK)
Thank you very much again, Rambler. I thought it was a very long shot, but it was good of you to look.

I had better keep the name Egli in mind I think. Pronouciation changes spelling!!!!

This is going to be an interesting chase!

Best wishes

Pelican
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: target on Saturday 09 August 08 00:03 BST (UK)
I'm rather new to this but my ancestors supposedly came from Bern in 1864.  I think I found the ship.

GG Mother - Emma Ris  (Her parents were Rudolph Ris and Anna B. Meyer)

GG Father - John H. Erni (changed to Erny in America)

They both ended up in Pittsburgh, PA. 

I don't know if these names are really from Bern or not.  Supposedly Emma spoke German and French and then learned English when she came to the US.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Registe
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 09 August 08 14:39 BST (UK)
There is certainly a RIS family from the canton of Bern - first mentioned in 1470.  Their place of origin is Jegenstorf.  (Another family with the same name comes from the canton of Glaris.)

There are several different ERNI families from different parts of Switzerland, but I can't see one from Bern.

The problem with Switzerland is that the family may have lived in Bern, but originated elsewhere, and civil records are held at the place of origin - see this topic for an explanation: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,183876.0.html

However, it looks likely that Emma at least was from Bern, so it would be worth contacting the local register office for Jegenstorf with the info you have (parents' names, approx date of birth), and asking for help.  (I will PM you with their details.)

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Registe
Post by: target on Saturday 09 August 08 19:46 BST (UK)
Rambler:  Thank you so much for the info on the Ris family from Bern.  Do you know the places that the Erni family came from?  Apparently they eventually moved to Bern from wherever because I can remember my father telling me that John Erni had a letter from the Mayor of Bern saying that he was a hard worker.  My dad saw the letter but never knew what happened to it.  Needless to say, anyone who knew has passed away and the letter most likely ended up in someone's trash.  Thank you again.  Marianne
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Registe
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 09 August 08 22:20 BST (UK)
There are ERNI families from cantons Aargau, Basel, Graubunden, Lucern, Solothurn, Thurgau and Zürich, unfortunately.....  ::)

However, if Emma and John married before they left Switzerland, their marriage should be recorded at Fraubunnen, and it ought to give his official place of origin on that record.

Rambler
Title: Re: Does anyone have access to SWISS SURNAMES: A COMPLETE REGISTER?
Post by: Lianna on Wednesday 19 November 08 09:38 GMT (UK)
I hope this is still active.  Do you have any information on the surname LanFranchi, most specifically, Tomasso?  Or any information about a little shop they may have owned in Porchiavo, Switzerland?  Thank you in advance. 

The DHBS is sitting in a bookcase to the left of the computer, so no hassle to look things up!

Godenzi (fomerly de Gaudentiis)
Family from Poschiavo.
Bernardinus Godenzi: Doctor of Divinity, vicar-general, custodian of Coire cathedral 1630-1655.  Erected an altar to St Gaudentius in the cathedral in 1665. Died 31 Jul 1668.



I don't know much about that region of Switzerland (my husband's family are mainly from Neuchâtel and Bern), but it's a beautiful area.

Rambler. 
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 19 November 08 16:53 GMT (UK)
There's just a brief entry in my book:

Lanfranchi: family from the canton Graubünden.

Emil Lanfranchi (b. 1872, Poschiavo): priest at St-Moritz 1905-1921; cantor of Coire cathedral from 1921.


Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Lianna on Thursday 20 November 08 01:48 GMT (UK)
Thanks!
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Maggott on Thursday 27 November 08 17:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Manchester Rambler- can I push my luck & ask if you could possibly look up Kubler (should have an umlaut on the u) in your book?  Family myth says they came from Basel...Rodolph the shoe manufacturer (first half of 19th century)is the guy we're hoping someone will have heard of
Thank you in advance
Maggott   
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Thursday 27 November 08 18:27 GMT (UK)
There are Kübler familes from Schaffhausen and Ossingen (canton of Zürich).  Various "notables" are mentioned, but none in Basel, I'm afraid.  :(

There's also a Kubler family (no umlaut) from Fribourg, and a Kübli family from Saanen (Bern).

The Kübler name probably comes from the job of barrel-maker - Cooper in English.

IGI has a user-submitted record for Rudolf Kuebler (another way of spelling Kübler), who was born in Ossingen in 1820 and married Elisabetha Schwarz in Hunchenstein, Basel in 1849 - could this be your family?


Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Maggott on Thursday 27 November 08 19:20 GMT (UK)
Hi  That was fast - thank you very much for your reply. So far the Kublers have been a  mystery, but now we've got something to work on.  I wonder whether the Basel story began with a photo a cousin has, which has Basel written on the back.  Even if that's where it was taken, it doesn't mean they lived there...   
Our Rudolf's son, Charles, was b about 1849, so the Rudolf/Elizabetha marriage is not impossible ...hmmm
Again, many thanks
Best
Maggott   
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: tenby tart on Sunday 30 November 08 15:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Rambler

After many years of trying to find my elusive Italian ggrandfather I am not sure if one thing I found is correct, we have always believed he was Italian but on one ship crossing he (thats if its him) has got himself down as Swiss. After futher investigation someone suggested he could have come from canton of Ticino do your books cover that area.

Many thanks Lynne
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Sunday 30 November 08 16:13 GMT (UK)
The book covers all Switzerland - what name are you looking for?

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: tenby tart on Sunday 30 November 08 16:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Rambler

Thanks for the offer his surname is spelt different ways on the certificates I have.

Carlo Besselo 

Bossolo

Bessolo

Going by his marriage certificate he was born abt 1854

Regards Lynne
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Sunday 30 November 08 16:43 GMT (UK)
I'm afraid nothing close is showing up for BESSOLO/BOSSOLO, etc - the closest is a Swiss artist called Carlo BOSSOLI (b. 1815).

Sorry not to be more help.   :(

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: tenby tart on Sunday 30 November 08 16:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you for looking I may find him one day

Regards Lynne
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Denby1 on Thursday 18 December 08 22:46 GMT (UK)
Hello Rambler,
It looks as though you have been very helpful. I have a Swiss ancestor by the name of Charles Grivatt. He was living in England by 1871 and his marriage certificate (he married an English woman in Southampton) says his father was also named Charles. Unfortunately, I don't have anything else to go on at the moment.
Hope you can help!
Denby
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Friday 19 December 08 08:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Denby,

There is a GRIVAT family from Orbe (canton Vaud), first mentioned at the beginning of the 15th century.

As you have Charles' approx date of birth and father's name, it might be worth contacting the equivalent of the county record office for Vaud and asking whether they can help: in Switzerland it is the family's place of origin, not place of birth which is important.  (Explanation here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,183876.0.html )

Canton de Vaud - Service de la Population
centre.etatcivil [at] vd.ch

If you don't speak French, English should be fine - just specifiy that Charles is "of Orbe".

Good luck!

Rambler   :)
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Denby1 on Friday 19 December 08 17:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your quick response Rambler.  :) I shall follow up your lead and hopefully I'll be able to find out more. I shall let you know if I'm successful.
Denby.
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: family seeker on Wednesday 29 April 09 17:18 BST (UK)
Hi Manchester Rambler, I noticed on the forum you have access to Swiss Surnames and wondered if you would be kind enough to look up my family name JENNI. I think they lived in the Bern Canton, maybe Theirachern or Uetenberg villages before they emigrated to the US approximately in 1835.
My Great great great Grandfather was a John (or Johannes) at that time.

If you have any clues I would be grateful as searching my Swiss and US origins from the UK is a bit of a challenge.

Regards, family seeker
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 02 May 09 20:41 BST (UK)
I'm afraid there are several different JENNI familes originating in the cantons of Bern, Graubunden and Lucerne, as well as JENNY in Basle, Glaris and St-Gall, making it difficult to guess which might be the right one.   :(

(The surname comes from the forename Johannes, so it's a bit like looking for JOHNSON in English.)

The best I can suggest is to ask around your family whether anyone has old documents, letters, etc which might give the family origin: if they're in German, it could say something like "Heimat" or "Burger von XXX". 

Sorry not to be more help!

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: family seeker on Sunday 03 May 09 13:53 BST (UK)
Hi Rambler, thankyou for your feedback and looking up the surnames for me.
I think I can narrow your look-ups to :
1) the only surnames I am interested in is Jenni or Jenny
2) only looking in the Bern canton and using the forenames of  :
1) Johannes - who would have been born approximately in 1790
2) Christian (or Christen) who might have been Johannes father and would have been born approximately 1750

Family Seeker
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Sunday 03 May 09 22:04 BST (UK)
I don't have access to Bern parish records, I'm afraid - my book just gives a short entry for each surname, with sometimes a mention for "notable" family members.

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: dtb1322 on Monday 19 December 11 19:08 GMT (UK)
I am looking for info on my great great gf Frederick Buser born in Switzerland in 1816.  We suspect he arrived in the US on 26 Aug 1833 on the ship Manchester with the name Frederick Bersler.  He arrrived with his father Baptist, brother Godfroy and sisters A Maria, Catherina, Christiana, Elizabeth and Rosina. Thanks-Dave
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Billyblue on Tuesday 20 December 11 07:44 GMT (UK)
Hello Rambler
I wondr would you be good enough to look in your book for me too?

One of my ggmothers was Swiss and until fairly recently that was the extent of my knowledge of her.
However have discovered that she came from Canton Vaud in CH.   Born about 1820s.

Surname is variously given as Rousseau and Rossier.

Can you also tell me where in Switzerland is Canton Vaud?

Many thanks in advance

Dawn M.
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 20 December 11 12:55 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for info on my great great gf Frederick Buser born in Switzerland in 1816.

As mentioned above, I don't have access to Swiss parish registers (except for the canton of Neuchâtel), so can't look up baptisms etc, but the surname BUSER originated in the village of Buus in the canton of Basel District (BL) - the earliest form of the name was "von Bus", and goes back to 1288.

You may be able to find some more information here: http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/kant/baallg-e.htm - among other things there is a link to the Basel genealogical society and the Basel District archives (Staatsarchiv Basel-Landschaft).

Hope this helps,

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 20 December 11 13:10 GMT (UK)
Quote
One of my ggmothers was Swiss and until fairly recently that was the extent of my knowledge of her.
However have discovered that she came from Canton Vaud in CH.   Born about 1820s.

Surname is variously given as Rousseau and Rossier.

ROSSIER and ROUSSEAU are two different families, which doesn't help matters!  ROSSIER originates either in the canton of Fribourg or in the canton of Vaud - the earliest mention there is in Bussigny in 1372.

The ROUSSEAU family came to Geneva from France in 1549, the most famous descendant being the writer and philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778).

There isn't much for Vaud on the SwissGen site unfortunately, but here's the link: http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/kant/vdallg-e.htm - it does have a small map of the canton, which lies imediately north of Lake Geneva.  (Lausanne is the "county town".)

The local genealogy society is Cercle Vaudois de Généalogie: http://www.ancetres.ch/

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: action49 on Monday 26 December 11 09:16 GMT (UK)
Dear MR - I wonder if you would be able to do a lookup for me too please - the name I am after is HEPP in the Ruti/Zurich area.  Thanks!
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: waybackSwiss on Tuesday 20 March 12 23:13 GMT (UK)
If anyone has a copy of Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register, would he or she please look up the
following surnames:

Maurer (Mauer?)

Forster

Torsche

Bertsch

These would all be mid 1600's.

Thank you very much!
Tom
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 21 March 12 09:41 GMT (UK)
HEPP - my apologies, as I completely missed this one when you posted it!  But beter late than never...   ::)

This surname is originally from Gächlingen in the canton of Schaffhausen, where it goes back to at least 1510.

A Johannes Hepp (b. 1879) was director of the Zürich school for the blind, deaf and dumb in 1918, and wrote a couple of books about teaching.

Unfortunately, Schaffhausen doesn't have a local FHS; this is the link for Zürich: http://www.ghgz.ch/

(Proviso as mentioned above - my info is from the Dictionnaire Historique et Biographique de la Suisse, not the SSR.  I don't have access to parish registers for these areas.)

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 21 March 12 09:41 GMT (UK)
MAURER - the surname means "mason", and there are separate families originating from the cantons of Aargau, Bern, Glaris, Lucern, St-Gall, Schaffhausen and Zürich.

FORSTER - again, several separate families from Bern, Lucern, Neuchâtel, Schaffhausen, Thurgau and Zürich.

TORSCHE - no reference in my source.

BERTSCH - the surname comes from the given name "Berchtold", and is fairly widespread in the canton of St-Gall, particularly around Mels and Sargans.  The East Switzerland FHS covers St-Gall: http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/ver/sginfo-e.htm

(Proviso as mentioned above - my info is from the Dictionnaire Historique et Biographique de la Suisse, not the SSR.  I don't have access to parish registers for these areas.)

Hope this helps a little!

Rambler   ;)
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: action49 on Wednesday 21 March 12 10:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks MR - the Hepp you mentioned is definitely in the family!
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: waybackSwiss on Wednesday 21 March 12 10:39 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Manchester Rambler!  This information is great and does indeed help!
Thanks again!
Tom
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: waybackSwiss on Wednesday 21 March 12 11:04 GMT (UK)
MAURER - the surname means "mason", and there are separate families originating from the cantons of Aargau, Bern, Glaris, Lucern, St-Gall, Schaffhausen and Zürich.

FORSTER - again, several separate families from Bern, Lucern, Neuchâtel, Schaffhausen, Thurgau and Zürich.

TORSCHE - no reference in my source.

BERTSCH - the surname comes from the given name "Berchtold", and is fairly widespread in the canton of St-Gall, particularly around Mels and Sargans.  The East Switzerland FHS covers St-Gall: http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/ver/sginfo-e.htm

(Proviso as mentioned above - my info is from the Dictionnaire Historique et Biographique de la Suisse, not the SSR.  I don't have access to parish registers for these areas.)

Hope this helps a little!

Rambler   ;)

Rambler,
I apologize for neglecting to include the following info regarding these surnames:

Maurer - Seftigen (canton Bern)
Forster - Basadingen (canton Thurgau)

Again, my apologies and thanks!
Tom
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Billyblue on Thursday 22 March 12 04:38 GMT (UK)
Manchester Rambler, I only just saw your reply to me from last December!
Not sure how I missed it, however, thank you very much.
Vaud rings a bell but not sure as I only found out some details about her at the end of last year.

Her death notice says she was from Champvent,  Switzerland.
Could you tell me what canton that would be in, please?

Thanks again and again   :D  :D  :D
Dawn M
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Thursday 22 March 12 06:23 GMT (UK)
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Her death notice says she was from Champvent,  Switzerland.
Could you tell me what canton that would be in, please?

Champvent is in the canton of Vaud - it's not far from Yverdon at the foot of Lake Neuchâtel, and has a rather impressive mediaeval castle. http://www.swisscastles.ch/vaud/chateau/Champvent.html
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Billyblue on Thursday 22 March 12 15:23 GMT (UK)
Wow!

Thanks very much.
That looks like a real 'gingerbread' castle   :D  :D  :D  :D

Dawn M
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: rastajef on Monday 26 March 12 11:06 BST (UK)
Rambler, Hi!

Is your hand too tired?
or could you reach up on the shelf again
for the Swiss register, o pretty please!  ;D

My family name is Girod
earliest is Grosjean Girod from Loversee 1414
but given the area of Pontenet as a wedding present
from the monks of Bellelay--

don't have much on other towns in the area of family members- Pontenet was main.

anything is very much appreciated!

jeff  :)

I have attached an amusing/amazing news story of my 2x great-grandfather immigrated to Oregon.....
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 27 March 12 11:45 BST (UK)
Hi Jeff,

My source doesn't have much about your Girod family, I'm afraid - just a brief mention of Alexandre GIROD of Pontenet, an artist born in Madrid on 7 April 1889 who died in Le Locle (canton of Neuchâtel) on 8 January 1927.

You probably already know that Loveresse and Pontenet are in the French-speaking part of the canton of Bern: this is the link for the Bern FHS http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/ver/beinfo-e.htm

However, if you've traced your Girod line back to 1414, you'll be lucky to get anything earlier!

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: rastajef on Tuesday 27 March 12 12:08 BST (UK)
Rambler,Thanks for your help!
Grosjean's parents
who lived in Loversee
are the hard  ones to get info on......
family oral tradition carried down
along with the male line chart starting at Grosjean
it says
"a monk and a nun eloped and escaped with their lives from Alsace/Lorraine area......and settled in Switzerland"
thats all i got....
i will add the new knowledge you have found..thank you!  :D
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: ec20150308 on Sunday 08 March 15 16:01 GMT (UK)
Dear JackieG
Just noticed your old post. 40 years ago, when I still lived in Switzerland and we had very little information about our ancestors, I researched extensively our Carisch family.. If you are still interested in answers, let me know and I'll share what I have on our ancestors.
EC
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: AnnaC on Sunday 24 July 16 20:47 BST (UK)
Hi Rambler,

I just came across this site and saw you have access to the Dictionnaire Historique et Biographique de la Suisse. Would you be able to look up the name Adolpho A. Cortesi from Cantons de Grisons (I think). He was born around 1873 - conflicting records for that - emigrated to England prior to 1901.

He is my great-great-grandfather and we have no info for him prior to him being in England.

Thank you sooo much :)
Anna
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: pb_devon on Tuesday 26 July 16 10:06 BST (UK)
Rambler might be able to add something, but the on-line version (http://www.hls-dhs-dss.ch/f/dhs-et-e-dhs/contenu :other languages available)does not have him.  The surname is only "registered" to one community: Poschiavo.
To find out how to follow up this line of research try reading this page: http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/kant/grallg-e.htm as well as the general pages of this website, which are very helpful, if a bit old.
Good luck.
Paul
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 26 July 16 10:40 BST (UK)
I'm afraid the surname CORTESI isn't mentioned in the DHBS. :(

Rambler
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: linda51 on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:10 BST (UK)
Hello Manchester Rambler

Is there any chance you could please look in your book for the surname Corboz? Any other ideas for tracing Rose Corboz born about 1880 and her father Edward Corboz (shoemaker) would be great.

Thanks in advance

Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: AnnaC on Wednesday 27 July 16 13:25 BST (UK)
Thank you Rambler...I'm starting to think he changed his name when he left Switzerland. There is absolutely NO info on him before being married with 3 kids that I can find.  :o

Have a good day!
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: pb_devon on Wednesday 27 July 16 14:01 BST (UK)
AnnaC, you shouldn't give up  :)
I knew nothing about my Swiss maternal grandfather other than he was from Valais, but a speculative email to the Genealogical Society there produced an instant and fulfilling reply.
Did you see my post #53 at the end of page 6?
The surname is definately from here so worth exploring further.
Paul
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: AnnaC on Wednesday 27 July 16 14:07 BST (UK)
Thank you Paul.

I have seen that there are currently a number of Cortesi in Poschiavo - a place that would be logical with the story I have heard over the years.

I will check out the links a little closer and then try to contact the Genealogical Society. I'll let you know if it is fruitful :)

Thank you again,
Anna
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: youngtug on Wednesday 27 July 16 20:46 BST (UK)
 http://www.hls-dhs-dss.ch/famn/
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Svenja on Wednesday 03 August 16 14:58 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

The surname Corboz has origins in several places in the Cantons Waadt/Vaud, Genève et Fribourg.
So you should try to find out from which of this places your Corboz Family came from.

http://www.hls-dhs-dss.ch/famn/index.php

If they were from a place in the Canton Fribourg you will find them in the Census which is online for the years 1811-1880.
http://www.fr.ch/aef/fr/pub/documents_en_ligne.htm#i200807


For all who search for ancestors in the French part of Switzerland here are some newspapers online:

Cantons Genève, Waadt/Vaud, Neuchâtel, Wallis/Valais
http://www.bcu-lausanne.ch/livres-articles-video-audio/archives_presse/

Cantons Neuchâtel and Fribourg and Wallis/Valais
http://doc.rero.ch/search?cc=PRESS&ln=fr

For all who search for ancestors in the other parts of Switzerland here are some newspapers online:
http://newspaper.archives.rero.ch/Olive/APA/SNL_FR/default.aspx#panel=home

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: linda51 on Wednesday 03 August 16 22:10 BST (UK)
Svenja

Thanks, but sadly there are no results on those websites. If anyone has any ideas how I can find details for Rose Corboz and her father Edward, a shoemaker, I'd be very grateful.

Thanks

Linda
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Svenja on Wednesday 03 August 16 22:49 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

From which source do you have the information about Rose Corboz and her father Edward Corboz?
If you don't have more details as the ones you mentionned you can't search in Switzerland.

You need to know the place of birth or the place of origin of Rose Corboz, then you can search there.
You could write to all the places of origin mentionned in the Swiss Surname Book, but it is not sure if this will be successful.

Or you could search in the Census of the Canton Fribourg (I gave you the link), but it is not sure if they came from the Canton Fribourg, they could also come from the Canton Waadt/Vaud.

In the newspapers I found an Edouard Corboz, but he was postmaster not shoemaker.

You could also ask your question in the Swiss Forum "Geneal-Forum" where you can write in English.
https://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/

Regards
Svenja

Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: pb_devon on Thursday 04 August 16 08:25 BST (UK)
Linda,
To add to Svenja's reply, I would recommend you read this webpage http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/intro-e.htm where the system of Swiss citizenship (and hence family records) are explained. As Svenja says you need to know the community of origin of your family to start. 
Also the forum she mentioned is helpful, and the webmasters will translate the post to/from English.
Paul
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: linda51 on Thursday 04 August 16 08:42 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

From which source do you have the information about Rose Corboz and her father Edward Corboz?
If you don't have more details as the ones you mentionned you can't search in Switzerland.

Hi Svenja

Thanks for your help. Rose Corboz was in the 1901 census giving her pob as Switzerland (French Swiss); in 1905 she married, showing her father was Edward Corboz, Shoe Maker. in 1911 her POB is shown as Switzerland, Lusanne, Swiss and in 1939 gives her date of birth as 26 January 1880.
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Svenja on Thursday 04 August 16 12:40 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

So she was born at Lausanne, Canton Waadt/Vaud, Switzerland.
So you can write to the registrars office or the state archives of Lausanne.

Cercle Vaudois de Généalogie = Genealogical Society of the Canton Waadt/Vaud
http://www.ancetres.ch/index.php?id=5 explains the following facts:

For birth/mariage/death records after the year 1875
http://www.vd.ch/themes/vie-privee/etat-civil/

For birth/marriage/death records of the years 1821-1875
For baptism/marriage/death parish records 1562-1821

Archives Cantonales Vaudoises (State Archives Waadt/Vaud)
http://www.patrimoine.vd.ch/archives-cantonales/accueil/


Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Vanessa Mackereth on Wednesday 07 February 18 00:35 GMT (UK)
I am currently reasearching my Great Great Grandfather who emigrated to New Zealand from Poschiavo Switzerland in 1889.
Can someone please check if either of these families are in the Register

Stefano Carlo GADA DOB 18/01/1862
Anna CORTESIi DOB 1863

they where married in 20/03/1889 in Poschiavo, Switzerland

Any othetr tips on reasearching swiz / italian records would be appreciated

Regards Vanessa Gada
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Svenja on Wednesday 07 February 18 01:19 GMT (UK)
Hi

The churchbooks of Poschiavo are held at the State Archives of the Canton Graubünden.

https://www.gr.ch/EN/institutions/administration/ekud/afk/sag/services/collections/familienforschung/Seiten/default.aspx

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: pb_devon on Wednesday 07 February 18 08:41 GMT (UK)
Gada is a Ticino name. See http://www.hls-dhs-dss.ch/famn/?lg=e

Refer to
http://kunden.eye.ch/swissgen/schweiz-en.html for very useful info about Researching Swiss ancestors, though it can be a bit out of date in some areas.

Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: MichaelJCompagnoni on Tuesday 03 March 20 03:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Jackie,

I recently begin working on the Poschiavo side of my family tree.  My ancestor that came to Australia was a Compagnoni whose are parents Giovani Tomaso COMPAGNONI and Giacomina SEMADENI.

If right, without going into further detail we are cousins about 7th. 

Orsolina SEMADENI is interesting.  Her daughter is listed on the 1911 Census as Niece to Pietro Rodolfo LARDI - Louise Anette SEMADENI.  From what I know Louise didn't have a sister. Her father was Hans Semadeni his fame being the pioneer of the Swiss-Italian rush of Pastry cooks / confectioners.  Have you found out anything more about Orsolina?

Jason. 

Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: Svenja on Tuesday 03 March 20 21:27 GMT (UK)
Hi

Marriages of Compagnoni from Poschiavo in Australia were also mentionned in the Swiss newspapers:
https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d&d=IGI19230110-01.2.4&srpos=1&e=-------fr-20--1--img-txIN-%22COMPAGNONI+Giovanni+Tomaso%22-------0-----

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: SWITZERLAND: Does anyone have access to "Swiss Surnames: A Complete Register"
Post by: MichaelJCompagnoni on Wednesday 04 March 20 20:13 GMT (UK)
Svenja, I found E-Newspapers Archives site only a couple weeks ago.  Thank you for the link to the article.  It has 7 Deaths / Marriages from my Compagnoni family.

Jason.