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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: Penninah on Thursday 13 April 06 19:17 BST (UK)
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Just wondering does anyone know of any sites where i may be able to find a picture and some information on this Cruiser? I had a rellie who was serving upon her during the 1871 census in Singapore.
Many thanks,
Penninah
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Not too much from me - I'm afraid - but I'll post anyways !!
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/corvettes.htm
This may be a picture of the Barrosa - after the first one was scrapped !!
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/new_page_2.htm
Hope somebody else comes up with something better !!
Annie :) :)
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The National Maritime Museum has research and enquiry services. They might be able to help ???
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/
Wendi
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I had a relative on the HMS Barossa in 1871. I would be interested in knowing how you get to see data for that census of Singapore that year. There are online diaries/newspaper accounts of the progress of the 'flying squadron' of which Barrosa formed a part. Here you will see it described as the fastest of the fleet and an attractive looking ship albeit painted black.
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A long time since this thread was active.
This is the correct HMS BARROSA
http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=101 and another useful page from Paul Benyon http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Flying_Squadron/Cover_Page.html
I have had a quick look at this page and it makes no reference to a visit to Singapore. The vessels Logbooks for the period should give an accurate picture of her movements. These are kept in the National Archive in pieces ADM53/101110 and ADM53/101111.
Also the ships book in ADM135/28
Be aware that the spelling of her name is sometimes given with two "S"s or one "R"
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Thanks for reply, yes I have looked at info on 'flying squadron' and correct no reference to Singapore but maybe they included ships at sea in the vicinity. I wonder what exact date of census was? tie in with UK? It would be good to find my chap recorded as have him for all other censuses of his life bar 1881 when I suspect he was in Dublin and no data for there.
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The 1871 census was midnight on Sunday April 2nd. The 'flying squadron' with HMS Liverpool as flag ship may have been broken up during 1870. HMS Bristol is the only other ship in the squadron that is easy to trace in the 1871 census and she was in Maderia.
Have you looked for his service record on the National Archives website?
Ken
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My apologies Ken! Your are correct. The first 'flying squadron' returned to England in November of 1870 having completed its world tour. HMS Barrosa left the fleet in April of that year in Japan and was replaced by another ship.
My forebear was a shipwright. I did spend a day in Kew some years ago looking about and thought maybe to find naval dockyard records for him but in vain. It was part of their training to do a tour at sea so I presume he signed up for 4 /5 years. I know this was initially in May of 1869 from a family diary. He was back working in Sheerness where he did his apprenticeship for the last 30 years of his life.
I did not think to look for a record for his sailing career before and only stumbled upon this Flying Squadron wealth of detail recently. Now I am interested in finding out where Barrosa spent the years after it left the fleet. There were further squadrons formed therafter but I dont think Barrosa returned butdid service in the 'China Seas'. I presume my chap stayed his ship until his contract was up.
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Hi,
I've just seen your post re. HMS Barrosa. My great-grandfather was an able seaman on board this vessel in 1873 i.e. after she left the Flying Squadron in 1870. Did you manage to find out where the ship went after that or what she did?
Since my great-grandfather only served on board her for 6 months in 1873, I'm assuming that she had returned to the UK by that time but can find no information on the web.
I would be very interested to know what you have discovered since posting your query.
Many thanks.
Angela Caldwell nee Bamber
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I have since managed to find documents for my gr grandfather in the NA, signing up as a boy sailor in 1865. His father and older brother were shipwrights and he later trained to be a shipwright in the 1880's in the age of metal/engines. His hometown was Sheerness and it was from there that he signed up for HMS Cadmus which was to form part of the Flying Squadron. Cadmus was damaged at sea en route to join the fleet. HMS Barossa was sent out from Sheerness to replace it and the crew were reassigned . Barossa spent 9 mths with the Squadron and left it in April 1871 in Singapore. It remained in service in the China Seas until it returned to its homeport of Sheerness in July of 1873 where the men would have been paid off at the end of their contract. This was a time of change in the navy where the wooden sailing ships were being replaced by metal hulls and engine powered so there was a reduction in the labourforce of the dockyards. ( and crew requirements of ships?).
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Thanks for the information on the Cadmus and Barossa. My great-grandfather joined the Cadmus in 1867 and the Barossa in 1869. Your research has helped to fill out my family tree information.
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There is a lot of interesting material online about the Flying Squadron. News of it featured in Australian newspapers of the day. There is also a diary written by one of the officers even including some photographs and some illustrative sketches.