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Title: Am I being a wimp
Post by: dinkey on Saturday 16 October 04 10:40 BST (UK)
I have quite a number of ancestors who would probably be buried in the Oldham area. I live in Lancashire with no transport. I would dearly love to visit the area to try and find the graves but this would mean going by train on my own to an area I do not know. I doubt I could persaude any of my family to come with me and wonder whether I should just do it on my own.

What do you all think. Has anyone had to do this and what has been your experience.

dinkey
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Ticker on Saturday 16 October 04 10:44 BST (UK)
Dinkey

I'm sure that what you might find would more than make up for the difficulty and effort of going on your own.  However I would be reluctant to recommend you to wander round graveyards on your own.  Why not try and make contact through rootschat with someone with an Oldham interest to go with you.
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Bee on Saturday 16 October 04 12:56 BST (UK)
If you must go on your own then I'd suggest weekends as that is when a most people go to tend their family graves, that way you wont be totally alone.

I have done it on my own with no problems but I think my daughter is trying to take over and she's started organising  graveyard outings, especially for next week when she's got a weeks holiday.

Happy hunting :)
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Jacquie on Saturday 16 October 04 13:01 BST (UK)
Dinky, I don't think you are being a wimp, I'm like you I don't like going anywhere I have not been before. 

The first time I went to the library to do some research I dragged my husband along.  I knew exactly where the library was and where to go but I just needed someone to come with me first time. 

A month ago I had to go to a seminar for my job and it was a long way from where I live about a 45 minute drive and I did not know where to go so again I dragged my husband off with me.  A week later I drive there all by myself and had no problem.

I would try and find someone to go with I don't like walking around graveyard by myself.  When I do that I drag my son along.

So I don't think you are a wimp, some of us just need someone to hold our hand.  If I was over there I would come with you.

Regards Jacquie.
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: JillJ on Saturday 16 October 04 13:28 BST (UK)
I don't think you are a wimp at all.   I have only done one graveyard expedition - to a very run down and neglected cemetery in Leeds.   A woman came out of the Lodge cottage and told us not to move more than a few feet away from our car, because, she said, if you blink it will be vandalised!   That was on a Sunday morning!

Having said that, it was probably one of the worst days I have ever had - hubby invited himself along, appointed himself Director of Operations, telling me where to go and what to do and then, after about three quarters of an hour had the nerve to ask me what we were looking for!   I didn't get the nice lunch I had planned, didn't get to go to the church I also wanted to visit and all in all it was a complete disaster.   Oh, and by the way, the grave wasn't there either!   So next time, vandals, druggies, happy families, come what may - I shall be going alone!

Jill
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Bee on Saturday 16 October 04 13:35 BST (UK)
Just a thought, apart from all the stuff you take with you, pen,paper etc. why not take a walking stick as apart from helping you over uneven ground it might give you a bit of protection should any undesirable take a liking to you.
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: dinkey on Saturday 16 October 04 16:11 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the words of advice and encouragement. I know that I should not need my hand holding. I am a grown woman after all (well not quite, only 4ft 10). hence the name dinkey. I was tempted to ask hubby but the only way I could drag him to Oldham would be the excuse of a weekend away and if I left him in the pub.

The idea of a walking stick is good. I do have one for when I go rambling. Although our experience of doing that means we usually get lost, walking round in circles. Does not bode well for taking a trip to an unknown town on my own does it.

So the way I see it I have three choices

1. Go on my own armed to the hilt with map. compass, pad & pen, camera, walking stick etc.
2. Entice hubby with a weekend away.
3. Contact Oldham FHS and ask for a like minded buddy to escort me from the train station.

I'll go with a majority decision.

dinkey

Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: JillJ on Sunday 17 October 04 13:26 BST (UK)
There is a fourth option Dinkey.   You could post a message and see if there is a rootschatter in the area who would go with you?

Jill
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: dinkey on Sunday 17 October 04 13:56 BST (UK)
You are never going to believe this but I have just had a call from my mum. (I do not mean that mum). She has been speaking to her cousin in Manchester who told her that a friend had visited Oldham and quite by chance had walked down Higginshaw Lane where my grandparents lived. Mum was born at 534 Higginshaw Lane Crompton Oldham.(as you can tell from the number it is a very long lane).

According to the friend of mum's cousin, only a few of the houses still remain and No. 534 is one of them. The friend did not have a camera but has offered to take my mum in the spring. I have asked if she would not mind me joining them.

Do you reckon that is fate. I will get an accompanied visit to Oldham and see where mum was born as well.

I might be pushing my luck to get them to visit the cemetry though.

Just had to share that with you all.

dinkey 
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Ticker on Sunday 17 October 04 15:27 BST (UK)
Dinkey.  That's amazing.  I would try pushing your luck if I were you and getting to that cemetery!  ;)
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: JillJ on Sunday 17 October 04 15:59 BST (UK)
That's wonderful news Dinkey!   I'm sure you will get to the cemetery as well - do you think bribing would work?

Jill
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: sal on Sunday 17 October 04 16:11 BST (UK)
hi dinkey
            i live in oldham, what part of oldham do you want to visit, if it helps i would come with you, the only day that i would be able to meet you would be on a sunday
                                         sue
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Jacquie on Sunday 17 October 04 16:12 BST (UK)
Hello Dinkey,

I think that is wonderful that you are going to see the house your mother was born in.   I think you should try and push your luck like Ticker said you never know they might say yes.  

The house my mother was born in is still standing, in fact I have a cousin who lives in it now.  About a year ago she contacted me and said she would take a photo of it, I am still waiting for the photo.  

I went to the big cemetery in Perth today about an hours drive from my house.  Again I dragged my son with me and this time my daughter.  My son moaned so much I almost buried him alive so he won't be coming with me again.  Lucky we had the plot numbers so we were able to take photos and write down the inscription quickly.

Regards Jacquie.
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: KathyM on Sunday 17 October 04 18:26 BST (UK)
Hope you have lots of fun on your trip to Oldham Dinkey.

If you know the cemetery & dates of death/burial 0 why not contact the cemetery office & ask if they can give you details of the plot numbers.

In Tong cemetery in Bolton, I was given the plot number of the grave I wanted, plus a plan of the cemetery in the post with it marked.  Because it was my husnamd's grandfather's grave they even offered to meet us there and show us the location !

We didn't take them up on this offer as we didn't know for sure when we would be able to go over there.  In the event, the grave had no headstone - which was sad, but did save us hours of searching - it is a huge place !

Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: dinkey on Monday 18 October 04 11:31 BST (UK)
Thanks to you all for being so pleased for me about getting a visit to Oldham. I am not sure about dragging my mum round the cemetry for a number of reasons.

a) she is not good on her legs and these cemetries can cover quite an area.
b) although she is interested to know what I have unearthed (excuse the pun)  she does not want to know how I got the information.
c) as her cousin has very kindly offerred to take us I feel it might be a bit cheeky to ask if they will come with me looking at graves.

Anyway, the visit is not planned until the Spring when hopefully the weather will be more reliable.  The trouble with me is that I am too impatient and do not want to wait that long.

Sal

What a very kind offer to meet up with me in Oldham one Sunday. It is a great idea and I would love to meet you there. Unfortunately, I do not know whereabouts in Oldham my Travis family are buried.  I am trying to find when my ggrandparents James William & wife Hannah died . Their youngest son was born early 1900's. My grandmother married in 1923 and her father was deceased by then so I am looking for a time frame for James & Hannah between 1901 & 1923. have not found them on Free BMD.  The last address I have for them from the 1901 census is 71 Cowlishaw Lane Crompton Oldham.

If you or anyone can help in telling me where else I can try and find their deaths before I plan my trip to Oldham, I would be very grateful.

I realise that this request should probably be another posting but seeing as I have everyone's attention I thought I may as well ask here.

regards

dinkey

Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: sal on Wednesday 20 October 04 09:04 BST (UK)
hi dinkey
            i have been trying to make some enquires for you regarding your great grandparents, i have a friend who has been researching his family history who mostly lived in the shaw/crompton area of oldham, i will be in the chat room after 9.30 tonight see you there    sue
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Fitty on Wednesday 20 October 04 19:55 BST (UK)
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a) she is not good on her legs and these cemetries can cover quite an area.

Buy one of those foldaway camping chairs.  Dave bought me one, it's got a strap so you can sling it over your shoulder.  They are very light and easy to carry.
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: dinkey on Wednesday 20 October 04 21:03 BST (UK)
Fitty

I presume you do not mean when my mum is sitting in it.

dinkey
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: Fitty on Thursday 21 October 04 01:07 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: maidmarianoops on Thursday 21 October 04 05:41 BST (UK)
http://www.oldham.gov.uk/community/local_studies_and_archives/memorial-inscriptions.htm
TRY THIS SITE FOR INFO SYLVIA
Title: Re: Am I being a wimp
Post by: dinkey on Thursday 21 October 04 08:06 BST (UK)
Thanks for that information. I will take a look at it.

regards

dinkey