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Title: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Christopher on Friday 05 May 06 01:23 BST (UK)

This is a rough guide of regiments at the Curragh Camp.
Please post if you know of other regiments giving the dates they were at the Curragh.
1805 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1855 The Curragh Camp was established as a base for a brigade
1856 51st Regiment
1860 - October 1860 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
April 1861 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
31st March 1865 - 3rd August 1865 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1865 - 1866 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
22nd February 1866 - 8th August 1866 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1866 - 1867 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
1880 47th Regiment of Foot
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
Sept 1885 - Oct 1886 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
1891 - 1893
1st Royal Irish; 1st Wiltshire; 2nd Gordons; 2nd Royal Welsh
Fusiliers and 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1892 - 1896 15th Hussars Calvary
1912 2nd Battalion Royal Sussex Regiment
1914 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment
1915 5th Service Battalion Jan - May Royal Field Artillery

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Peggy on Saturday 16 September 06 15:42 BST (UK)

Hi Chris,
    Grandfather Arthur Robert Knight was at the Curragh with the 15th Hussars Calvary from 1892 to 1896.

Peggy

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Thursday 23 November 06 17:57 GMT (UK)

Hi!
I have a birth cert for my grandfather - George James Hosegood which states place of birth "Naas M. Barracks" The birth (on 12/10/1887) was registered in the district of "Naas & Caragh". His father was George William Hosegood Quarter Master Sergeant 3rd Bat. R.D.F. (Royal Dublin Fusiliers?) Is that of any use to you?

Regards, Lesley

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Christopher on Thursday 23 November 06 21:26 GMT (UK)

Hiya Peggy and Lesley,

Thanks for your posts.

Chris

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: PabloC on Monday 02 July 07 20:10 BST (UK)

Hi,

I have a marriage certificate for my Great, great grandparents John and Ellen Clisham. On it, it states that he was a Private of the '47th Regiment' (I take it this refers to the 47th Regiment of Foot?), based at North Camp, Farnborough in 1876. Bear with me...

His first-born was born in St. Heliers, Jersey in 1878 and his second in Dublin. However, his second daughter was born in February 1880 at Curragh Camp. Might they have been based there too?

I ask the question, as on the 1891 England Census, he's a shoe maker. I take it he'd left the army on having a family...

Paul

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: PabloC on Monday 02 July 07 21:10 BST (UK)

Evening,

Just found out that the '47th Regiment of Foot' were indeed station in England between 1872 and 1877, then Jersey and Ireland between 1877 and 1881 at which point they then became 'The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment'.

Paul

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Dingaling on Wednesday 05 November 08 10:05 GMT (UK)

 >:(My Great Grandfather John Allan b 1841 England marriage certificate (married 1875 Musselburgh Scotland) states he was a Private in the 91 Foot  and his usual place of abode was Currogh Ireland.
This is new research to me and finding it hard to progress.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Wednesday 05 November 08 18:24 GMT (UK)

I too have to confess that this part of my tree proved difficult and hasn't been looked at in a while!  I may have something in my file which is upstairs and as I'm supposed to be cooking dinner I'll delay being sidetracked but will check tomorrow and write again.
Lesley

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Dingaling on Thursday 06 November 08 02:46 GMT (UK)

 8)Hi LesleyPaterson.

Thank you for your reply I am keen to learn of anything that may HELP me understand history of the 91 Foot.
Catch Up
Dingaling

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: hondaboy on Sunday 21 December 08 17:08 GMT (UK)

 Sgt Thomas Litchfield 51st Regiment, stationed at the Curragh, married my great grandmother - Mary Pearce - at Ballysax Church on the 26th September 1856.

I obtained a copy of the certificate from LDS.

Hondaboy. :)

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Leofric on Monday 22 December 08 15:44 GMT (UK)

Quote from: hondaboy on Sunday 21 December 08 17:08 GMT (UK)

I obtained a copy of the certificate from LDS.
Hondaboy. :)

How interesting. I wasn't aware that the LDS had such a service. How did you apply for it?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: hondaboy on Tuesday 23 December 08 13:32 GMT (UK)

Visit  the LDS site, ck on Library - drop down list - ck Library Catalogue another drop down list self explanatory.
Whilst on the site obtain the location of your nearest Family History Centre as you will need to visit to place your request for the film you require, the charge is nominal.  When the film is available they will contact you to view the film at the Centre and you will be able to make copies.  The volunteer's at the Centres are very welcoming and helpful.
Any further info: required just call. 8)

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Leofric on Tuesday 23 December 08 15:53 GMT (UK)

Ah, I see now. You didn't actually obtain the cert from the LDS but copied it from a film on fiche.

Even so, that is encouraging - for although I've looked at many a film at my LDS centre, I thought that only the BMD indexes were available, and not the film of the actual certificate.

I'll have to do some delving on the LDS and see what can be found...

Thanks for the info.
Leofric

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 16:50 GMT (UK)

A few years ago I transcribed all the headstone inscriptions in the Curragh military cemetery. I sent them on to a lad who posted most of them on his website. After a bit of searching here are the ones he posted. I'll see can I find the others which are of soldiers' family members buried there.

In memory of Driver Henry Young died 20th May 1877, Gunner Wm Mathews died
4th Novr 1879, Shoeing Smith Henry Geo Markham died 13th March 1880, Gunner
John Greene died 20th April 1880, Gunner Nicholas De Courcy died 3rd Sept
1880. Erected by their comrades Depot Battery, 3rd Brigade, Royal Artillery."

"In memory of William Watson and James Bennett 93rd Sutherland Highlanders
the former died 23rd August 1888 aged 24 years the latter died 9th Feb 1889
aged 21 years. This stone was erected by their comrades of A Company."

"In memory of Private Edward Cummings 2nd D.G. who died 5th Feb 1876 aged 19 years.
Also Private Richard Morris who died 21st April 1876 aged 21 years.
Erected by their troop comrades as a mark of respect."

"Sacred to the memory of the following N.C. Officers and Men of the 10th Royal Hussars who died during the regiments stay at Newbridge. SQMS Charles Patrick Elam died 16th March 1897 aged 31 years. Sergt Fredrick John Page died 11th February 1897. Bandsman Thomas Chapman died 31st October 1896 aged 21 years. Private Alfred Andrews died 8th February 1897 aged 19 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Sapper Baxter R.E. who died 26th March 1871 aged 39 years and of Sapper William Dandridge R.E. who died 5th April 1874 aged 34 years. Erected by the N.C. Officers and Sapper 31st Company R.E. as a mark of respect to their comrades. Also Sapper Joseph Woodhead R.E. who died 23rd August 1875 aged 41 years."

"In memory of Private Henry Launder Band 3rd Battn Rifle Brigade
who died 22nd March 1881 aged 22 years."

"In memory of Gunner J. Underhill Barton
who was accidentally killed at Newbridge on 21st Sept 1912 aged 22 years.
Erected by the Officers, NCOs and Men of 112 Battery RFA."

"In loving memory of Henry De La Poer Beresford 15th (King's) Hussars
who died 31st December 1895 aged 21 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Arthur Bishop R.H.A. born at Stamford, Nottingham.
Died at Newbridge, Co. Kildare 9th June 1894 aged 44 years."

 "In loving memory of Robert George Blackie Sergt R Battery R.H.A.
who died Decr 15th 1892 aged 29 years."

"In loving memory of Pte R. Booth A.S.C. who departed this life Decr 17th 1888 aged 44 years."

"To the memory of Color Sergeant John Buckley Canteen Keeper 50th The
Queen's Own Regt who departed this life somewhat suddenly on the 4th
August 1875 aged 38 years. This tablet is erected by his brother sergeants
as a final tribute of respect to the memory of a good and upright comrade."

"Sacred to the memory of No. 6298 Pte Arthur Percy Burton. 5th PCW Dragoon Guards.
Died at the Curragh Camp 29th Jany 1912. Erected by the Officers, NCOs and Men of A Sqdn,
5th PCW Dragoon Guards."

"Sacred to the memory of Pte Frank Bush A.S.C. who died at the Curragh Camp 19th January 1889
aged 36 years. This stone was erected by his comrades as a token of respect."

"In memory of Robert Butler Private D Coy 2nd Batt R. West Kent Regt who died 14th April 1885 aged 28 years. Erected by the NCOs and Men of the company as a mark of respect."

"Sacred to the memory of Sergt Instructor of Musketry William Carter 1st Bn P.W.O. Yorkshire Regt
who died at Curragh Camp the 29th of Decr 1895 aged 31 years leaving a sorrowing widow and child.
Erected by his brother Sergts and the Officers, N.C. Officers and Men of C Company as a token of respect."

"Sacred to the memory of Private Michael Cherry 6th Inniskilling Dragoons
died 24th Decr 1873 aged 40 years. This monument is erected in affectionate
rememberance by the Officers Non Com Officers and Men of D Troop 6th
Inniskilling Dragoons by whom he was held in the highest esteem."

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 16:51 GMT (UK)

"In loving memory of James Frankham Church (formerly Q.M.S. Instructor Royal Engineers) who departed this life at the Curragh Camp on the 15th March 1898 aged 70 years. Also his daughter Winnie who died 21st August 1880 aged 12 months. Not lost but gone before. Also his wife Caroline who died 31st Oct 1919 aged 79 years. At rest. Also his son Frederick James Lieut Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Killed in Action in France May 1915."

"In memory of Lce Sergt Michael Conway 1st Royal Munster Fusiliers
died 11th July 1894 aged 25 years.
Erected by his brother Sergeants as a token of respect & esteem."

"Sacred to the memory of Trumpet Major Peter Coogan of the 8th Kings Royal Irish Hussars who departed this life on the 31st day of December 1871 aged 29 years. This monument is erected in affectionate remembrance by his brother Non Commissioned Officers by whom he was held in the highest esteem."

"In memory of Robert Courtenay Courtenay Lance Sergeant H.M. Duke of Cornwall's L.I.
Eldest son of Robert and Henrietta Courtenay  who died June 4th 1885 aged 30."

"Sacred to the memory of George Leopold Coward.
Qr Mr Sergeant Army Ordnance Corps who died 14th October 1908."

"To the memory of Farrier Sergeant John Crowe C Battery C Brigade Royal Horse Artillery
who died at the Curragh Camp 25th August 1870 aged 35 years.
This stone was erected by the Officers Non Commissioned Officers and Men of the battery."

"Sacred to the memory of No 1791 Pte J. Delaney, C Coy, 2nd Batt, The
Manchester Regt. Died at the Curragh on 17th Oct 1911. Erected by his comrades."

"In fond rememberance of Bombr William Dempsey 2nd Bde R.A. Died 2nd August 1887 aged 38 years.
Also his two children William and John Baptistwho died young. Erected by his sorrowing wife Eliza Dempsey."

"Sacred to the memory of Band Sergeant W.G. Doe 1st Bn Loyal N. Lancashire Regt
who died 1st  July 1908 aged 29 years. He served throughout the South
African War 1899-1902. Erected by his comrades, Sergeants and band of the Regiment."

"In affectionate rememberance of Thomas Donoghue late Sergeant Major Supply Branch Army Service Corps who departed this life 26th June 1878 aged 44 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Gunner Harry Eggett. R.H.A. Died 6th April 1914. Aged 21 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Sergeant George Elliott 21st (E of I) Lancers who departed this life
21st Dec 1899 aged 35 years. Erected by the Sergeants as a mark of respect and esteem."

"In beloved memory of my husband, William J. Evans, DCM.
Quartermaster 5th Leinster Regiment. Died May 27th 1916. Aged 47 years."

"Frank Bell Fancourt SQMS ASC. Age 35. Died 5th May 1908."

"Erected by comrades to the memory of George Fitzer. Sergt 2nd Roy Sussex Regt
who died at the Curragh Camp 19th August 1910 aged 41 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Sergt J. Fitzgerald 1st Bn Royal Irish Regt
who died 18th August 1893 aged 32 years.
Erected by his brother Non Com Officers as a token of esteem."

"Erected By Harriett Gadd in memory of her fond husband John Gadd late of the 2nd Battalion 4th King's Own Royal Regiment died 12th April 1877 aged 36 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Pte Phillip Galliers 6th Inniskilling Dragoons died
26th June 1874 aged 35 years. Erected by his brother comrades."

"To the memory of John Stephen Gandee (Late Bandmaster) 1st Bn The Prince of Wales's North Staffordshire Regt who died 5th Day of Jany 1920 aged 63 years. Erected by the Officers, Wos, NCOs and Men of the Regt."

"In memory of Private Arthur George 11th (P.A.O.) Hussars
who died at Curragh 22nd May 1903 aged 22 years."

"In memory of Lce Corpl George William Giles 2nd Bn Royal Fusiliers who died
at the Curragh Camp 4th Oct 1897 aged 25 years. Erected by some of the Non
Commissioned Officers and Privates of the Regt and by his sorrowing father."

"In loving memory of Thomas Frederick Godsell late Royal Welsh Fusiliers died 16th May 1901 aged 35 years."

"In loving memory of Sapper Richard H. Good R.E. born at Beer, Devonshire.
Died at Curragh 1st September 1896 aged 22 years."

"In affectionate memory of Edwin Goodwin a Pte of the So Stafford Reg who departed this life the 1st of March 1890 aged 25 years. This stone was erected by the Officers N.C. Officers and Men of his Coy as a mark of respect and in loving memory of their lost comrade."

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 16:51 GMT (UK)

"In memory of Sergt F. Green King's Own Regt Died July 15th 1890 aged 38 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Sergt D. Hamilton 1st H.L. Infantry who died
18th Dec 1887 aged 34 years. Erected by his brother Sergeants."

"Sacred to the memory of Quartermaster J. Hannan 27th Inniskilling died 25th Jany 1874 aged 38 years. Erected by his brother officers as a token of their esteem."

"Erected by the Officers, Non Commissioned Officers and Men of 2nd Batt Coldstream Guards to the memory of Lance-Corporal Thomas Hanson who died at the Curragh Camp September 3rd 1872 aged 38 years."

"Sacred to the memory of No 5185 Pte F. Harris, 5th Dragoon Guards.
Died 19th Sept 1911 aged 21 years. Erected by his comrades."

"In memory of Revd David Heggie Chaplain to the Forces. Parish Minister of
Monzievaird & Strowan Scotland who died while on duty at the Curragh on 23rd
October 1917 aged 42 years. Erected by fellow officers of the 194th Infantry Brigade."

"In loving memory of No. 2039 Trooper Alfred M.E. Herrig. 2nd King Edwards Horse.
Born Oct 14th 1897. Died July 11th 1918. Thy will be done."

"Sacred to the memory of Corporal John Hicks Inniskilling Dragoons who departed this life at Curragh Camp on 22nd June 1874 aged 35 years. This tablet is erected by the Officers, Non Commissioned Officers and Men of the Troop to which he belonged as a mark of the regard and esteem in which he was held."

"In loving memory of Color Sergt Stephen Hilliar 1st Battalion Coldstream Guards who died at the Curragh Camp 31st May 1881 aged 36 years. Erected by his sorrowing Widow and brother Sergeants."

"In memory of Sergt H. Hillman, 20th Hussars, who died at the Curragh on
26th March 1909. Erected by the Officers, WOs, NCOs and Men."

"Sacred to the memory of John Hobbs who served for 12 years in the 2nd Batt 19th Regiment.
Died at the Curragh Camp 3rd May 1884. Deeply regretted  by all his comrades."

"In loving memory of Richard Bolster Holland. Lieut. R.A.M. Corps
who died of disease contracted in France. 21st August 1916. Aged 47."

"In memory of Tempest Holt Private 2nd Battn 6th Foot who died at the Curragh Camp
21st February 1872 aged 32 years. Erected by his comrades as a mark of their esteem."

"Sacred to the memory of Sergt T. Hotchkiss 21st (Empress of India's) Lancers
who died 5th June 1901. Erected by the Sergeants 21st (E of I) Lancers as a token of esteem."

"In memory of Private William E. Howe 11th (P.A.O.) Hussars who died at
Curragh 5th January 1904 aged 22 years."

"In memory of Sergeant E.H. Hudson Royal Scots Greys who died at Newbridge 8th June 1892.
Erected by his brother N.C. Officers."

"In memory of Captain Charles Whitmore Isaac 38th (1st Staffordshire) Regiment who died at Kildare on the 3rd May 1879 from the affects of a fall from his horse aged 32 years. Erected by his brother Officers."

"In memory of Sapper J. Kennedy 17th Company Royal Engineers
who died at Curragh Camp 18th July 1889 aged 27 years."

"To the memory of No 858 Pte D. King who died 10th Augst 1913 aged 25 years.
Erected by the Officers, NCOs and Men DSOd 16th Lancers."

"Sacred to the memory of Bk Sergt James Lawless late 31st Regt died 10th April 1874 aged 57 years.
Also Michael Grennan died 11th October 1881 aged 92 years and of Mary Ann Lawless the beloved daughter of James & Catherine Lawless died 21st March 1887 aged 29 years."

"In memory of John Maguire Sergt. 2nd Dragoon Guards aged 38 years died 5th April 1876.
Was erected by his brother Non Com Officers."

"In loving memory of No 867 Drummer Alfred William Manning who died at the Curragh Camp 31st March 1887 aged 17 years. Of the Suffolk Regiment. Erected by his brother."

"Sacred to the memory of Sergeant A. McCulloch. 91st PLA Highlanders who
died at the Curragh Camp 12th March 1876 aged 35 years. Erected by his brother Sergeants."

"Pte Thomas McGovern 34th Regt who died 19th Sept 1872 aged 34 years.
This stone is erected by the Officers and Men of his Company as a mark of respect."

"In affectionate rememberance of Pte John McKean 2nd Leicestershire Regiment.
Erected by his comrades as a token of respect."

"Sacred to the memory of Private Donald McLeod 1st Batt Seaforth Highlanders who was accidentally killed on the 12th December 1889 while serving with the Mounted Infantry aged 22 years. This stone was erected by the Officers, Non Commissioned Officers and Men of No 1 Company 2nd Mounted Infantry Regiment."

"To the memory of No 5013 Pte T. Mercer
who was killed on duty 20th March 1914 aged 20 years.
Erected by the Officers, NCOs and Men of 16th Lancers. Duty done."

"Sacred to the memory of Private C Morrisson. 134th Battery R.F.A. who
departed this life 26th July 1906. This stone is erected by his comrades."

"In memory of Lieutenant-General Sir Gerald De Courcy Morton KCIE CVO CB Born February 7th 1845 Died at the Curragh April 20th 1906 while commanding the 7th Division. This memorial is erected by comrades at home and abroad with whom he served in his long and distinguished career of 45 years to mark their affectionate rememberance of a noble character and a simple gentleman."

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 16:53 GMT (UK)

"Sacred to the memory of Lance Corp Arthur O'Shea 1st Batt Royal Dublin Fusiliers.
Died 8th April 1889 aged 18 years. Erected by the Officers N.C. Officers  and Men of E Company."

"In memory of Colour Sergeant Henry Parkins ? Company 2nd Batt 4th the King's Own Royals.
Died 17th March 1877."

"Erected by his beloved wife to the memory of Color Sergt Thomas Peden late 20th Regt
who departed this life 27th May 1871 aged 59 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Private George Quinn Died 27th June 1874 aged 41 years.
Erected by the Non Comd Officers and men of F Troop 4th R.I.D. Guards
as a mark of respect and esteem to a kind comrade."

"In memory of Co Serjt Major W. Reeves 6th Co R.E. died 10th April 1880 aged 33 years.
Erected by the NCOs and Men of the Compy as a mark of respect."

"In loving memory of Harry William Rogers Late Sergeant R.A.M.C. who died
14th February 1900 aged 39 years."

"In memory of Gunner John Napthine Ruddock E Batt 4th Brigd R.A. who died at the Curragh on the
17th August 1871 aged 42 years."

"Erected by the Officers Non Commissioned Officers and Men of O Battery 1st Brigade Royal Artillery in memory of Gunner Robert Scholefield who died at Newbridge on the 3rd April 1889 aged 36 years."

"Sacred to the memory of Color-Sergeant John Simpson Scott 93rd Sutherland Highlanders
died 8th November 1878. Erected by his comrades."

"Sacred to the memory of Arthur Seymour (Camp Quartermaster Sergeant) dearly
beloved husband of Mary Seymour who died 14th April 1905 aged 26 years."

"In loving memory of No 3670 Bugler W. H. Short 54th Co R.E. died 21st Feb
1903 in his 21st year. Erected by his comrades."

"In memory of Lieut E. Shurrey, The Welsh Regt. Who died 18th July 1912.
This stone was erected by his brother officers."

"Sacred to the memory of Band Master Jas Simpson 1st Batt H.L.I. Who died on
5th Decr 1882 aged 37 years. Erected by his brother Sergeants as a mark of esteem and respect."

"Sacred to the memory of Sergeant Pioneer William Slater 2nd Batt Royal Sussex Regiment
who departed this life on the 25th March 1882 aged 29 years.
This stone is erected by the Officers and Sergeants 2nd Batt Royal Sussex Regiment as a mark of estem."

"Sacred to the memory of Pte Joseph Spencer 5th R.I. Lancers the beloved husband of Sarah Spencer
who died 1st January 1882 in his 34th year."

"In memory of Rev James Spiers Chaplain to the Forces died 16th September 1890 aged 74 years.
Margt Neilson Spiers wife of the above named died 9th November 1896 aged 76 years.
Erected by the Royal Scots Greys, 2nd Gordon Highlanders and a few other friends."

"In memory of Joseph Stapps VIIth Compy R.E. who died at the Curragh June 12th 1888 aged 27 years."

"Sacred to the memory of William Thorlby 2nd Battn Coldstream Guards who died 16th July 1888
aged 20 years. Erected by the Officers N. C. Officers and Men 2nd Battn Coldstream Guards."

"Sacred to the memory of No. 4501 Private W.K. Thorne. 5th Dragoon Guards.
Died 5th May 1911 age 33 years. Erected by his comrades."

"In memory of Sapper J.C. Tracey Tenth Copy Royal Engineers died at the
Curragh 11th March 1896 aged 20 years. Erected by the officers and men of his company."

  "Erected by Elizabeth Ann Turner in memory of her dear beloved husband late
QMS Turner Royal Engineers who died at Newbridge 10th Nov 1896 aged 44 years."

"In memory of Lieut. Walter Gordon Underhill Quartermaster The Cameronians who died at the Curragh on the 12th September 1887 aged 44. Erected by the Officers of the Regiment."

"In memory of Augustus Underwood Private Rifle Brigade who died 15th June 1880 aged 23 years. Watch and pray. This stone is erected in gratitude for faithful service done to an Officer who died in the Zulu War."

"In memory of Private Christopher Vaughan. 1st R. Berks Regt. Who died at the
Curragh on the 16th July 1908, aged 19 years."

"In loving memory of Gunner John Wells 12th K.A.V. died 16th January 1885 aged 22 years."

"In memory of Sapr T. Winter 37th Co R.E. died at the Curragh 6th April 1891 aged 24 years."

"To the memory of Sapper Charles Wright Royal Engineers who departed this life on 27th Sept 1888 aged 37 years and 9 months. This stone was erected by the Officers, N.C. Officers and Men of 12th Company R.E."

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 16:59 GMT (UK)

Link to that site

http://www.angelfire.com/mp/memorials/cur1.htm


There is an excellent book on the Curragh camp called A Most Delightful Station. Still in print as far as I know.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Most-Delightful-Station-British-1855-1922/dp/189825673X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230051306&sr=1-2

On the subject of military memorials in general in Ireland;

http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Tuesday 23 December 08 17:16 GMT (UK)

Hi!
What a lot of fantastic information.  I'd be really interested in the family members buried in the cemetry.  My great grandfather was stationed in India where he married my great grandmother, who was born in Dublin, in 1873.  I know that they had 12 children although some died in infancy.  Whilst one died in India I'm not sure about the others.  However, my grandfather and several of his siblings were born in Ireland between 1880 and 1890, his birth cert shows that he was born in Naas & Caragh in 1887 so it's possible that other siblings may have been born and died there.
Lesley 

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: hondaboy on Tuesday 23 December 08 17:41 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Leofric on Tuesday 23 December 08 15:53 GMT (UK)

Ah, I see now. You didn't actually obtain the cert from the LDS but copied it from a film on fiche.

Even so, that is encouraging - for although I've looked at many a film at my LDS centre, I thought that only the BMD indexes were available, and not the film of the actual certificate.

I'll have to do some delving on the LDS and see what can be found...

Thanks for the info.
Leofric

Whether this info: will help you the film no: I quoted for the Ballysax Parish Church
was Film No: 101379. full of marriage certificates.  My understanding is this church was
the local church for the Curragh Barracks. :)

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 17:56 GMT (UK)

Other headstone inscriptions in Curragh Cemetery

William Perry the dearly beloved son of William and Rosalie Locke 145 Battery. Died at Newbridge. 30th April 09. Aged 11 months.

Aimee Constance, beloved wife of Pte H J King 16th Lancers who fell asleep in Jesus on 16th Nov 1913 aged 34 years. Sleep on beloved sleep and take thy rest. We loved thee well but Jesus loves thee best.

To the memory of Jane Elizabeth Bridges wife of SS Bridges ASC who died 4th Nov 1913 aged 34 years.

To the loving memory of Belle, wife of Edmund Oliver Davies (Bandmaster 4th Q O Hussars) who died 21st Nov 1914.

Sacred to the memory of Lucy the beloved wife of Coy Sgt Major F. Tuft. R.G.A. Died 8th July 1916 aged 46 years. Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.

In loving memory of Violet the beloved wife of Sergt W. E. Marshall. 5th R.D.F. Died 10th May 1916 aged 34 years. Erected by his comrades.

In loving memory of Florence Morland, wife of Major C. M. Hutton XXth Regiment who died December 9th 1893 aged 35.

Erected Obit Farrier Corpl L. Nash C & T Corps in memory of his beloved wife Mary Ann who died 19th May 1884 aged 37 years. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1 Thes IV  XIV

Sacred to the memory of Mrs Tomlinson who died 26th January 1875 aged 27 years. Erected by the N. C. Officers and Men of Letter D Company. 94th Regiment.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:00 GMT (UK)

In loving rememberance of F. T. Furminger who fell asleep 1st May 1893 aged 67 years. Blessed be the dead which sleep in the Lord.

In memory of Harry Robinson died 5th September 1890 aged 21 years. What our Father does is well.

Matilda the beloved wife of Sergt C. Clarke, the Black Watch died 30th May 1886 aged 36 years. Also Matilda Dorathea her only daughter died 2nd June 1886 aged 9 days.

In affectionate rememberance of Elizabeth Barrett the beloved wife of F Barrett Corpl R.E. who died 12th January 1887 aged 33 years.

Joan daughter of Brig Gen E. A. Fanshawe R .A. Born 9th June 1910. Died 4th June 1912.

Sacred to the memory of Ponsonby G Watts the beloved child of Ponsonby Watts Esq. 1st Royal Irish. Born 25th June 1870 died 8th April 1871.

In memory of Charles son of Thomas and Sarah Ann Hibburt. Died 2nd February 1872 aged 5 months.

Ida May dearly loved child of S. Beckwith and Edith Blyth. Died Oct 15th 1876 aged 2 years and 3 months. For of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Helen A. Moore only child of H. Moore 4th Regt died 23rd March 1877.

Charles James Legge son of Major W. K. Legge The Essex Regiment. Born 16th August 1908. Died 9th February 1911.

Sacred to the memory of Kate the dearly beloved wife of Schoolmaster G. Hicks 5th Dragoon Guards who departed this life at Newbridge Barracks on the 23rd July 1885 agee 40 years after a short illness. The Lord gave and the Lord hath taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:08 GMT (UK)

She is not dead but sleeps in Jesus. Sacred to the memory of Susan Ann Storer the beloved wife of Staff Sergt W. Storer A. S. C. who died 10th May 1873 aged 32 years.

In loving memory of Archibald John Bamber second son of John Thomas and Mary Bamber who died Feb 21st 1908aged 17 years. On the resurrection morning, soul and body meet again. No more sorrow no more weeping no more pain.

In loving memory of Harry Terence Gibbs aged 6 years. Eldest child of Lieut & Camp Qr Master H. Gibbs Staff who died at the Curragh Camp the 2nd Feby 1894. For our loss we must not weep nor our loved one long to keep. God has saved from weary strife in it’s dawn this fresh young life.

In affectionate rememberance of Isaac Wylie for 15 years scripture reader in Curragh Camp who died 4th November 1894 aged 57 years. I am the resurrection and the life. John XI 25.

In loving memory of Agnes Whyler wife of Corpl G. Whyler R. H. A. who died 22nd Feb 1904 aged 26 years. Thy will be done.

Sacred to the memory of Louisa Prudence born 10th July 1864 died 15th Feby 1903 the loving wife of Lieut & Qr Mr J. R. Siddall Inniskilling Dragoons. Fasten’d to the rock which cannot move grounded firm and deep in the Saviour’s love.

Sacred to the memory of Arthur Seymour (Camp Quartermaster Sergeant) dearly beloved husband of Mary Seymour who died 14th April 1905 aged 26 years. “Asleep in Jesus”.

Erected by Sergt W. Meyler 47th Regt in memory of his dearly beloved wife Louisa Jane Meyler of St. Peters, Jersey who died Febry 16th 1878 aged 21 years also his daughter Louisa Jane who died young. Ah gay one see how the young and beautiful sink to the grave.

In memory of Florence Giulietta Wilkinson aged 13 months. Youngest daughter of Major H. I. Wilkinson late 9th Regt. District Controller, Curragh. Died Whitsunday 1st June 1873.

In memory of George infant son of Fred & Flora Wale 91st Regt died 21st April 1876 aged 11 months.

Sacred to the memory of Robert McAndless the beloved son of Wm and Mary McAndless O. B. A. S. Corps who died on the 28th March 1878 aged 8 months. The Lord giveth and the Lord hath taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

In loving memory of Mary wife of Arm Sgt A. Dougall 1st Batt Northampton Regt died 26th January 1883 aged 33 years erected by her sorrowing husband and children to perpetuate the memory of a most loving and unselfish wife, mother and friend. Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil for thou art with me.

In loving memory of Sophia Rosalie Florence the dearly beloved wife of Sergt C. Merrifield 8th K. R. I. Hussars late 11th P. A. O. Hussars died 26th December 1898 aged 30 years. Who have I in heaven but thee and there is none upon earth that I desire in comparison of thee.

In loving memory of Marion the beloved wife of John Firman of Hamilton British North America who departed this life at the Officers Mess R. H. A. Newbridge Barracks the 1st day of December 1887 aged 44 years. Also Ernest John 4th son of the above who died the 17th day of March 1876 aged 1 year and 6 months. Watch therefore for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the son of man cometh. Matth 25 Ver 13.

Sacred to the memory of Annie Martin the dearly beloved wife of Lieutenant & Quartermaster John L. Emerson Military Mounted Police Corps, Assistant Provost Marshal who died at the Curragh Camp the 30th day of Novr 1893 aged 32 years.Also their infant daughter who died the 4th Jany 1889……remainder illegible

In loving memory of Emily Sophia beloved wife of Archie Saunders Corpl Army Service Corps who departed this life 21st June 1896 aged 25 years. Strong was her faith inhim who died to save and bright her hopes of joy beyond the grave. The Lord gave and the Lord hath taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

In loving memory of Sarah Eliza Houseman who died 9th May 1896 aged 33 years. Thou blessed rock of ages I am hiding in thee.


Sacred to the memory of Marion the beloved child of Major O. H. Oakes The Worcestershire Regiment who fell asleep in Jesus 11th June 1892 aged 10 years who is  here laid to rest in the sure hope of a joyful resurrection through faith in a crucified and ever loving saviour. For by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Ephesians 11, 8. Ask and ye shall receive.

In loving memory of Dorothy Elizabeth daughter of Bandmaster J. Matthews 1st Bn South Staffordshire Regt. Died July 31st 1904 aged 10 years. Brief life is here our portion.

Sacred to the memory of Ann McKenzie the beloved wife of Sergt H. McKenzie 93rd Suthd Highlanders who died at Curragh Camp on the 13th May 1878 aged 26 years and 11 months.Tis God that lifts our comforts high or sinks them in the grave. He gives and when he takes away he takes but what he gave.

In loving memory of George only beloved son of James & Alice Tait 1st Batt H. L. I. Who departed this life the  17th August 1889 aged 9 months.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:21 GMT (UK)

In loving memory of Elizabeth youngest daughter of James and Annie Duguid 93rd Sutherland Highlanderswho died 26th April 1889 aged 1 year & 4 months also Frederick who died 1st February 1890 aged 5 months. Suffer  little children to come unto me and forbid them not for such is the kingdom of heaven.

In loving memory of Martina Balthasar Gething who departed this life 28th April 1897 aged 70 years. Thy will be done.

In loving memory of Alfred Frank Harold beloved child of Frank and Harriet Little 26 Co Royal Engineers who died 28th February 1895 aged 1 year. For of such is the kingdom of heaven.

In loving memory of Alice beloved daughter of Fred and Florence Chandler Corp Royal Engineers died 2nd August 1904 aged 13 months.

In Sacred memory of Margaret Martha the beloved child of Huw & Emma Pritchard 5th R. I. Lancers who died at Newbridge 23rd July 1882 aged 3 years.

Sacred to the memory of Esther James the beloved wife of John Adams Officers Mess Steward 1st H. L. I. Who died at the Curragh Camp on the 3rd February 1890 aged 42 years. O may we stand before the lamb when earth and sea are fled and hear the judge pronounce our name with blessings on our head. Erected by her sorrowing husband.

In loving memory of John Arthur Salusbury son of Captain J. E. Harden The Lancashire Fusiliers born 4th March 1903 died 6th March 1903.

In loving memory of Leslie the dearly beloved child of John and Elizabeth Mackay who died 7th Sept 1900 aged 2 years.

Erected by Corporal W. Dover R. E. in loving memory of his children Anna Maria died 29th April 1889 aged 13 months. His infant son James died 21st June 1889. Suffer little children to come unto me.

In loving memory of James Frankham Church (formerly Q. M. S. Instructor Royal Engineers) who departed this life at the Curragh Camp on the 15th March 1898 aged 70 years. Also his daughter Winnie who died 21st August 1880 aged 12 months. Not lost but gone before. Also his wife Caroline who died 31st Oct 1919 aged 79 years. At rest. Also his son Frederick James Lieut Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Killed in Action in France May 1915.

In loving memory of Emily Harriet Aston the beloved daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth Aston died 21st November 1885 aged 16 years and 9 months. Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. Matthew VIII. V.

In loving memory of Cyril Walter Francis second son of Band Mtr H Cannar Xith (P. A. O.) Hussars who passed into rest March 2nd 1888 aged 5 years.

In affectionate memory of Edmund Charles who departed this life23rd March 1899 aged 8 years. The dearly beloved and only son of E. J. & S. Monk. 8th King’s Royal Hussars.

The Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) in affectionate rememberance of James George the dearly beloved son of Sergeant J. Clarke & Naomi his wife who departed this life 25th December 1898 aged 2 years & 1 month.

Sacred to the memory of Amelia the beloved wife of George Denithorne A. S. Corps who departed this life 19th Jany 1872 aged 22 years & 7 months. May she rest in peace.

In memoriam Mary the beloved wife of Charles J. McGarry died 6th March 1875 aged 43 years. Eternal rest give unto her O Lord.

Sacred to the memory of Willaim Thomas son of Thomas and Ellen Francis 96th Regt born 11th Oct 1864 died 26th Augt 1877. R.I.P.

In affectionate rememberance of Olive third daughter of Staff Sergt T. Good R. E.      M. F. W. who died at Newbridge June 25th 1880 aged 1 M and 3 days.

In memory of Jane the beloved wife of Sergt Major Shepheard R Eng who died 3rd June 1876 aged 37 years also his beloved child E Fredk who died 6th April 1876 aged 6 weeks and M St George who died 26th October 1877 aged 7 years.

In loving memory of James Edward son of Joseph and Ellen Rennick2nd East York Regmt who died 23rd Sept 1897 aged 5 years. Peace perfect Peace.

In loving memory of Harold Cecil (Tosie) who died 1st October 1895 aged 2 years. Also Phillis Constance who died 27th October 1897 aged 1 year & 8 months the beloved children of Alfred & Lucretia Tomalin The Sherwood Foresters.

In loving memory of Rosannah Ellen Lucinda the beloved child of William & Elizabeth Buckley 2nd Hampshire Regiment who died 4th January 1895 aged 15 months.

In loving memory of Alice Emma the beloved child of Henry & Annie Bennett 2nd Hamps Regiment who died 7th January 1895 aged 7 months.

In memory of Ada beloved daughter of Corpl Wm Marshall R. E. & Emily his wife who died 21st Jany 1880 aged 3 years. Their angels do always behold the face of my father which is in heaven. Matthew XVIII & X.

Sacred to the memory of George William son of Corpl William Andrews 31st Co Royal Engineers and Sarah his wife who died 9th March 1875 aged 13 months. This lovely bud so young and fair called hence by early doom. Just came to show how sweet a flower in paradise would bloom.

In loving memory of Cissie dearly beloved daughter of Henry & Mary Taylor A. S. C. who died 7th March 1897 aged 3 years.

In loving memory of Isabel Evelyn (Eva) the dearly beloved daughter of….rest illegible.

In loving memory of Margaret Charles Worth the beloved wife of Sergt Charles Worth R. E. died 10th Octr 1898 aged 32 years R. I. P.

In loving memory of Harriet wife of P. Ruthven R. E. Establishment Curragh Camp who died 12th July 1895 aged 61 years. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:22 GMT (UK)

In loving memory of Willie the dearly beloved son of William George & Sarah Evans East York Regt who died 5th March 1897 aged 8 months.

In loving memory of Julia the beloved child of Sergt Hallott Provost Prison died 10th March 1894 aged 7 months.

Sacred to the memory of Kate Lamb wife of Sergeant J. Lamb 1st R. D. F. who departed this life 9th Decr 1888 aged 23 years.

In loving memory of Thomas Fredrick the dearly beloved child of Thomas F & Jessie Godsell late Royal Welsh Fusiliers died 21st February 1897 aged 3 years and 4 months.

In loving memory of Daisy Winnifred the dearly beloved child of James and Annie Glieve Royal Welsh Fusiliers died 17th Decr 1890 aged 4 years & 2 months.

In loving memory of Madge Kevin daughter of Sergt T. Kevin M. F. Police died 31st January 1898 aged 7 years & 1 month. Gone but not forgotten.

In loving memory of Annie Ruby Woods born 29th June 1894 died 16th Decr 1895 the beloved child of Ernest & Annie Woods. Their beloved son George Frederick died 20th March 1901 aged 2 years & 7 months. Requiescat in Pace.

In loving memory of George He……beloved and only……. Of George & Priscilla Wall………..1st Wilts Regt died 11th Oct 1891 aged 9 weeks. This lovely bud so young and fair called hence by early doom. Just came to show how sweet a flower in paradise would bloom. R.I.P.

In memory of Rosie the beloved daughter of Q Master Gregory R. W. F. died 16th April 1891 aged 6 years.

In loving rememberance  of Francis Edwin Carlisle the beloved child of Col sergt F. E. & Nellie Sissons 2nd Batt East York Regt died on the 31st July 1895 aged 1 year & 3 months.

In loving memory of John Thomas Patrick the beloved son of Robert & Margaret Whiffen 2nd Hants Regt died 17th Decr 1894 aged 9 months

In affectionate rememberance of Catherine the dearly beloved wife of Peter Rogan late Sergt Major A. S. C. who departed this life 8th November 1896 aged 38 years and of their infant babe Mary Josephine who died 11th September 1894 aged 2 days. Mother and Sister of Rt Rev Bishop Peter Rogan C. B. E. Bishop of Nicio.

In loving memory of George Alfredthe beloved son of George and Mary Butcher died in camp March 3rd 1892 aged 5 months. 2nd Batt Worc. Forever with the Lord.

In loving memory of Margaret Mary child of Robert & Jane Dillon who died 7th January 1893 aged 16 days

Sacred to the memory of Edward Augustus who died 10th February 1887 aged 9 months and Annie Harriet died 16th Feb 1888 the beloved children of Walter Vine 11th Hussars.

In memory of Mabel Martha daughter of T. S. M Pinnell 11th Hussars who died 23rd March 1887 aged 4 months. This lovely bud so young and fair called hence by early doom. Just came to show how sweet a flower in paradise would bloom.

Sacred to the memory of Emma beloved wife of T. S. M. Carvosso 11 PAO Hussars who departed this life 20th September 1887 aged 28 years. Rest dear one so tender and so true mother with all thy wealth of anxious love. Thy saviour all thy pain and sorrow knew and he has called thee to his home above. Also in loving memory of Willie son of the above who died 25th July 1887 aged three months.

In fond remembrance of Mary Mahoney the beloved wife of Army Schoolmaster James Mahoney who died 8th May 1878 aged 31 years 5 months. Two of their children lie buried in rere of this stone.

In memory of Annie Lily the dearly loved child of George and Ann Waterman who departed this life October 7th 1882 aged 2 years and 9 months. Of Such is the Kingdom of heaven.

In memory of Sarah dearly loved child of William & Adelaide Bellamy who died 11th March 1883 aged 1 year and 5 months.

In memory of Ethel May the beloved child of John & Jane Page Coms & Transport Corps who died 3rd April 1883 aged 10 months 14 days.

Erected by Sergeant Farrier Lambert 1st R Dragoons in memory of his son William who died 25th Decr 1883 aged 1 year 10 months.

One angel more in heaven. In memory of the dearly beloved children of Sergt Charles Broacks 4th Dragoon Guards and Jessie his wife Ellen Eliza died 15th July 1875 aged 9 months & 7 days and Charles Thomas died 16th July 1875 aged 9 months 8 days.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:24 GMT (UK)

In affectionate remembrance of Emily Kathleen the tenderly loved child of Edwin William and Emilia Brown died March 26th 1885 Aged 7 Months. We shall go to her but she shall not return to us.

Sacred to the memory of Margaret the beloved daughter of Sergeant H. Burke R. E.  & Maria his wife who departed this life 22nd Octer 1873 aged 5 years & 10 months.

To the memory of Thomas Henry who died 14th April 1978 aged 12 years the beloved child of Cr Sergt D. M. Sweeney 2nd Bn 14th Regt and Eliza his wife.

In affectionate remembrance of Catherine Davis the beloved wife of Samuel E. Davis who departed this life 5th June 1898 aged 52 years and of his infant son Edmond Christian.

In memory of Henry Walter child of Band Sergt Henry Tovell & Winnifred his wife 94th Regt who died at the Curragh Camp 26th Feb 1875 aged 8 months & 9 days. Thy will be done.

In loving memory of Joshua Charles the beloved son of John & Mary Ann Brown 2nd Batt Royal West Kent Regt who departed this life 5th day of March 1886 aged 2yeras & 9 months.

In memory of Louisa Frances beloved daughter of William & Martha Mason 19th Hussars died 24th August 1877 aged 4 6/12  years.

In affectionate remembrance of Jane Frances the beloved wife of Colr Sergt C. H. Reed 2nd 20th Regt and for many years Schoolmistress of the above corps who died 7th June 1881 aged 29 years also their infant child Charles Herbert who died 24th Jany 1881

In memory of Francis Slate who died 11th Oct 1870 aged 24 years.

Erected by her beloved parents to the memory of Clara Fohrer aged 6 years who died March 1st 1871. Suffer little children to come unto me and forbid them not. Not lost but gone before.

Sacred to the memory of Anne Ough who died 21st Sept 1872 aged 60 years. Requiescat in Pace.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:26 GMT (UK)

E. R. Hurford born 12th March died 15th October 1869.

Sacred to the memory of Catherine beloved wife of William White 66th Regiment died in childbirth 17th December 1869 aged 19 years.

Thy will be done. In memory of Maria the beloved daughter of  George and Maria Scott Royal Artillery who departed this life May 15th 1873 aged 12 years and 4 months.

Sacred to the memory of Lydia Murray wife of Bandmaster Murray Inniskilling Dragoons who departed this life 8th July 1873 aged 45 years. She is not dead but sleepeth.

Sacred to the memory of Amelia Burroughs who departed this life on the 21st of October 1870 aged 23 years. Also Wm H Burroughs died 29th Dec 1869 aged 9 months and J. T. Burroughs died 15th Oct 1870.

Partly Broken…..Henry…..May 1873….and 6 months the beloved children of Co Sergt Major R..NN R. E. and Phoebe his wife. Also Albert Edward died 16th December 1874 aged 2 years and 8 months.

To the memory of John Clegg died May 16th 1872 aged 37 years and also Agness Clegg died 4th Novr 1972 aged 14 years and 6 months. A. S. C. Erected by a beloved wife and mother Bridget Clegg.

In memory of Elizabeth the beloved daughter of James & Susan Ryan who departed this life 2nd August 1873 aged 5 years & 10 months. Suffer  little children to come unto me and forbid them not for such is the kingdom of heaven.

Erected by Sergt Majoor McCarthy 44th Regt in memory of his beloved daughter Jane Mary McCarthy who died March 28th 1871 aged 6 months.

J. M. Penrose died 11th Janry 1871 aged 7 years.

Frances Charlotte Pinwell died 15th August 1873.

Sacred to the memory of Harriet Elizabeth died 24th Novr 1873 aged 4 years & 8 months. Also her sister Letitia Annie died 6th December 1873 aged 3 years the beloved children of Sergt Major T. Reynolds Army Service Corps.

In memory of Sophia Anna the beloved daughter of Troop Sergeant Major George and Sarah Pearce 6th Inniskilling Dragoons who departed this life 28th August 1873 aged 20 months.

Erected by William Rewcastle Quarter Master Sergeant Royal Horse Artillery and Sarah Ann his wife in memory of their infant son who died 30th May 1873 aged 3 months.

In memory of Susan Mary the beloved daughter of Serg Major McIlvern R. A. and of Susan his wife who died 4th Jan 1873 aged 3 months 22 days.

In memory of James Thos Hart the beloved son of Sergt Major T. Hart 34th Regt who died 21st of December 1872 aged one year & 6 months. Of such is heaven.

Sacred to the memory of Thomas Rabbits only son of Charles Rabbits 40th Regt born 23rd Decr 1868 died 22nd May 1871 aged 2 years & 5 months. This stone is erected by an affectionate father & mother who deeply deplore his loss. He was lent by God and we resignedly return him with thankfulness.

Erected to the memory of Emily Constance daughter of William Andrews Saddler Sergt 8th Hussars died 4th May 1872 aged 1 year & 2 months.

Sacred to the memory of Malcolm Charles who died on the 9th Jany 1872 aged 6 months and Alice Matilda who died on the 10th Feby 1873 aged 4 years the beloved children of Co Serjt Major F. T. A. Clemits R. E. In this world of care and pain Lord thou wouldst no longer leave them. To the sunny heavenly plain thou dost now with joy receive them. Clothed in robes of spotless white now they dwell with thee in light.

Sacred to the memory of William White who died 23rd February 1886 aged 46 years also his beloved son Willie died 1st July 1887 aged 11 months.

Erected by George William Howe (late Sergt Instructor Derbyshire Regt) in affectionate remembrance of his dearly beloved wife Mary Ann Howe who passed away 7th Feby 1906 aged 40 years. Oh we miss her and how sadly bleeding hearts alone can tell earth has lost her heaven found her Jesus has done all things well. Thy will be done. Also George William only son of the above who died 27th Jany 1907 aged 11 years. The Lord have mercy on their souls. R. I. P.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:29 GMT (UK)

Sacred to the memory of little Eva who fell asleep 20th Nov 1903 aged 4 years the second and dearly loved daughter of James & Margaret Franklin 6th Dragoons.

In loving memory of William Thomas beloved husband of Mary Ann Mead of Landford, Salisbury Died 7th Dec 1917. Til we meet.

In affectionate memory of Mary Ann the dearly beloved wife of Sergt Instructor Thomas Chapman. 2nd Bn East Yorkshire Regiment. Who died 24th December 1898 aged 29 years. The cold cold hand of cruel death upon her good life fell……….. rest illegible.

Sacred to the memory of Ellen the dearly beloved wife of Sergt E Webb 1st Wilts Regt who depd this life 26th Jany 1892 aged 22 years. Lord Jesus have mercy on her soul.

In memory of Daniel O’Donnell born October 1846 died April 1877 Requiescat in Pace.

Erected by Private John Fludgate 11th Company A. S. C. in memory of his beloved child Mary Anne who died June the 27th 1874 aged 3 years.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Saturday 27 December 08 22:37 GMT (UK)

Hello again!
Thank you for all that 'gravestone' detail.  No trace of my missing family names.  The church listed on my grandfather's baptism cert is Church of Our Lady and St David Naas.  Perhaps this was a Catholic Church outside the barracks.
Lesley

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Saturday 27 December 08 23:23 GMT (UK)

Naas is a good bit away from the Curragh. Someone dying in Naas in the 19th C would Likely be buried there. You could try to contact the local history society or library to see if the local graveyards have been surveyed. Of course the stone could have been lost by now as many are in the Curragh

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Claud on Sunday 28 December 08 04:13 GMT (UK)

Oct 1864 The 61st (Sth Gloucestershire Rgmt) were at Curragh until Mar 1865 and again from Mar 1866 to Sept 1866.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Macker_Irl on Sunday 28 December 08 22:36 GMT (UK)

Hi Mick_Dolan

My name is Matt McNamara and look after the Curragh History web site. www.curragh.info I would be very interested in putting your information on the site as it is a vital piece of Curragh History.  well done on all the work Matt

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Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Macker_Irl on Tuesday 30 December 08 10:15 GMT (UK)

Hi Mick

I got your message thank you very much.

Matt

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Macker_Irl on Wednesday 31 December 08 14:24 GMT (UK)

Hi

For anybody who is interested, the following link is to my web site and shows the list of CWGC type headstones in The Curragh cemetery. My son and I went to The Curragh yesterday and took the attached photographs of the graves. There are other types but I am afraid the condition is not good and hard to read. The CWGC headstones seem to stand the test of time.

http://www.curragh.info/articles/militarygraves.htm

I do hope that this is of some use to some people and if anybody would like a copy of any of the headstones in High Resolution I can forward them on.

Matt

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Wednesday 31 December 08 15:27 GMT (UK)

Hi Matt!

On behalf of all of us with an interest in this topic - "thank you" for your effort and commitment.

Happy New Year,
Lesley

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: elaineinUSA on Wednesday 31 December 08 16:25 GMT (UK)

Thank you everyone for all this valuable information. 
In the mid 1800's when a soldier was posted was a spouse able to join him in the local barracks ?
I have a soldier with the 26th reg in the Channel Islands (1851), but the birth certificates for his children  were all provided by the 59th of foot. 2 children born in Ireland  1846,1848 and one in Wales 1851.
Does anyone have any explanation for this ?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Macker_Irl on Saturday 03 January 09 14:11 GMT (UK)

Hi

I have just updated The Curragh Cemetery list as transcribed by Mick Dolan. This list will give anybody researching their military roots to Regiments stationed at The Curragh from 1860 to 1922. Again this all this hard work is down to Mick Dolan who took time out to transcribe this information back in 2003.

The web page can be found at http://www.curragh.info/cemetery.htm

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Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Wednesday 07 January 09 14:48 GMT (UK)

Quote from: elaineinUSA on Wednesday 31 December 08 16:25 GMT (UK)

Thank you everyone for all this valuable information. 
In the mid 1800's when a soldier was posted was a spouse able to join him in the local barracks ?
I have a soldier with the 26th reg in the Channel Islands (1851), but the birth certificates for his children  were all provided by the 59th of foot. 2 children born in Ireland  1846,1848 and one in Wales 1851.
Does anyone have any explanation for this ?

In the mid 19th century a small percentage of soldiers were allowed marry and have their wives and children live in barracks. Incredibly they frequently lived in the same rooms as the single soldiers. I have an 1867 report from Clonmel that states that there was no married quarters in the barracks which accomodated 196 men over and above the accomodation space available and there were also 28 women living in the men's rooms. Inevitably there must have been several children living there also. The women also shared the ablutions and toilet facilities with the lads.

Your lad might have transferred from the 59th to the 26th or possibly left the army and re-enlisted.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: elaineinUSA on Wednesday 07 January 09 15:27 GMT (UK)

Mick_Dolan86,

Thank you for this explanation, It certainly would explain a lot.   What a tough life they led.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 07 January 09 16:20 GMT (UK)

Both my grandfather and his eldest brother were at Curragh Camp with the 19th Hussars in the early 1900s.  Something odd must have happened around 1906 as my grandfather was discharged as unfit, but getting hold of the Regulations of the time, it seems he was unfit due to being mentally ill and a danger to himself or others.  He was discharged to an asylum, but was only there for 6 weeks  ::) ::) and married a year later.  It has been suggested that he faked his illness.  I was given an Army term for this but can't remember it at the moment.

Lizzie

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: elaineinUSA on Wednesday 07 January 09 16:26 GMT (UK)

Lizzie,

I think it was all a matter of survival.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Leofric on Wednesday 07 January 09 16:37 GMT (UK)

Quote from: LizzieW on Wednesday 07 January 09 16:20 GMT (UK)

  I was given an Army term for this but can't remember it at the moment.

Lizzie

I think it is known as "working your ticket" ! I imagine you'd need some strength of character to pull it off...

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Wednesday 07 January 09 17:27 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Mick_Dolan86 on Wednesday 07 January 09 14:48 GMT (UK)

Quote from: elaineinUSA on Wednesday 31 December 08 16:25 GMT (UK)

Thank you everyone for all this valuable information. 
In the mid 1800's when a soldier was posted was a spouse able to join him in the local barracks ?
I have a soldier with the 26th reg in the Channel Islands (1851), but the birth certificates for his children  were all provided by the 59th of foot. 2 children born in Ireland  1846,1848 and one in Wales 1851.
Does anyone have any explanation for this ?

In the mid 19th century a small percentage of soldiers were allowed marry and have their wives and children live in barracks. Incredibly they frequently lived in the same rooms as the single soldiers. I have an 1867 report from Clonmel that states that there was no married quarters in the barracks which accomodated 196 men over and above the accomodation space available and there were also 28 women living in the men's rooms. Inevitably there must have been several children living there also. The women also shared the ablutions and toilet facilities with the lads.

Your lad might have transferred from the 59th to the 26th or possibly left the army and re-enlisted.

Just to restate something I posted earlier - my grandfather was born in 1887 at Naas Military Barracks - I was led to believe this was 'On the Curragh'.  He was one of 6 children born to the Quarter Master Sergeant's wife between 1879 & 1889.  The QMS (Royal Dublin Fusiliers) and his wife were married in India in 1873 although she was from Dublin.

Was the Naas Barracks a different place?  Would they too have lived with the soldiers?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Wednesday 07 January 09 18:09 GMT (UK)

I would say that by about 1880 they'd have had married quarters. A Senior NCO wouldn't have lived in a barrack room anyway. In addition there was a major reform of the army in the 1870s and 1880s. They were called the Cardwell reforms. The report I mentioned earlier was probably part of that process. as far as I know every barracks in Ireland was inspected so a report exists for Naas someplace. The married quarters in Clonmel were built in 1879 for instance (the building still stands and is now local authority apartments). But you would need to talk to a local historian in Naas with an interest in military history who might be able to tell you when the buildings in the barracks were erected. The Army magazine (An Cosantoir) ran a series of articles on military posts back in the 60s. If you wrote to Military Archives, Cathal Brugha Barracks, Dublin they might be able to send you a photocopy of the article on Naas.

I wouldn't say Naas was on the Curragh though.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Wednesday 07 January 09 19:02 GMT (UK)

Thnak you!

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Kamilla on Saturday 10 January 09 23:22 GMT (UK)

Devoy Barracks Naas is 9 miles from the Curragh. However was demolished about 6/7 years ago. Now the site of the Osprey Hotel, Appartments and Offices.
There is a heritage Dept in the Library in Naas.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Macker_Irl on Sunday 11 January 09 15:24 GMT (UK)

Hi

Here is an old picture of Naas Barracks, I am sorry that I don't have a date, but is pre 1922 by the look of the uniforms.

Regards

Matt

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Sunday 11 January 09 16:21 GMT (UK)

Matt,
That's fantastic! Thank you.
Lesley

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: PabloC on Wednesday 14 January 09 11:57 GMT (UK)

Excellent photo... :)

My great nan was born in Curragh Camp in 1880, and her birth registered in Naas. Could these then have been the barracks that her father was stationed at, or were there other barracks at Curragh?

Pablo

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: JohnnyMills on Wednesday 14 January 09 17:30 GMT (UK)

Fascinating information about Curragh Camp.

Perhaps someone could help me out? I'm trying to find which regiments were stationed there in 1898. I know my Grand Uncle was born there, in 1898.

My Grandfather was born at Shorncliffe in 1908. I'm trying to work out my Great-Grandfathers pre-war regiment (11th PAO Hussars 14-18). He was on active service abroad (Africa/India?), in 1901.

Is there one regiment that was at Curragh in 1898, the Boer War in 1901 and at Shorncliffe in 1908? Could it be the Regiment he fought and died for in WW1, namely, the 11th Hussars?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Wednesday 14 January 09 18:20 GMT (UK)

Quote from: PabloC on Wednesday 14 January 09 11:57 GMT (UK)

Excellent photo... :)

My great nan was born in Curragh Camp in 1880, and her birth registered in Naas. Could these then have been the barracks that her father was stationed at, or were there other barracks at Curragh?

Pablo

Was her birth registered in Naas or is the record held in Naas, which is the location of the Registrar's Office for Co. Kildare.

Kildare town and Newbridge were also the sites of barracks on the Curragh.

The Curragh Camp itself was comprised of seven barracks named after British generals until 1922.

Quote from: JohnnyMills on Wednesday 14 January 09 17:30 GMT (UK)

Fascinating information about Curragh Camp.

Perhaps someone could help me out? I'm trying to find which regiments were stationed there in 1898. I know my Grand Uncle was born there, in 1898.

My Grandfather was born at Shorncliffe in 1908. I'm trying to work out my Great-Grandfathers pre-war regiment (11th PAO Hussars 14-18). He was on active service abroad (Africa/India?), in 1901.

Is there one regiment that was at Curragh in 1898, the Boer War in 1901 and at Shorncliffe in 1908? Could it be the Regiment he fought and died for in WW1, namely, the 11th Hussars?

Thanks!

The Royal Artillery Museum was able to tell me which artillery units were based in Clonmel so if you write too the Royal Hussars Museum I'd say they'll be able to tell you where the 11th Hussars were in 1898 and which cavalry units were stationed in the Curragh at the time.

http://www2.army.mod.uk/the_kings_royal_hussars/museum.htm

The 11th Hussars website says they were in India from 1892 until going to South Africa in 1899.

Also since your great grandad fought in WW1 have you tried to get his service record.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: JohnnyMills on Wednesday 14 January 09 18:50 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the response Mick.

I actually got my dates slightly wrong - he was born in 1899/1900 at Curragh.

I've spent much time studying the 11th's history, because I convinced myself years ago that he'd served with them. The Regimental Museum doesn't have any records for enlisted men/nco's. Also, because he died as an officer, I dimly recall that the service records in question were destroyed in WW2.

As for the 11th's postings. General dates can be misleading. Often, Regiments sent detachments to serve overseas with different Regiments, or would send A & B Squadron but leave C at home.

I've since discovered that his wife's family lived in Cheriton, the village next to Shorncliffe. So now I, trying to find a regiment to fit the following dates and locations!!

1898/9 - Shorncliffe
1899/1900 - Curragh
1901 - Overseas
1908 - Shorncliffe

I'm still going with the 11th - comes back from India to Shorncliffe. He meets and falls in love with a local girl. New posting to Curragh, she gets pregnant and gives birth there, whilst he goes off to Sth Africa. She takes her first-born home to her parents in Kent (1901 census). He comes back from the war and is posted to Shorncliffe. Child number 2 is born there. He retires in shortly thereafter. Rejoins in 1914 as Lt QuarterMaster and then, very sadly dies of wounds in 1918, aged 49.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Kamilla on Wednesday 14 January 09 20:50 GMT (UK)

Quote from: hondaboy on Tuesday 23 December 08 17:41 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Leofric on Tuesday 23 December 08 15:53 GMT (UK)

Ah, I see now. You didn't actually obtain the cert from the LDS but copied it from a film on fiche.

Even so, that is encouraging - for although I've looked at many a film at my LDS centre, I thought that only the BMD indexes were available, and not the film of the actual certificate.

I'll have to do some delving on the LDS and see what can be found...

Thanks for the info.
Leofric

Whether this info: will help you the film no: I quoted for the Ballysax Parish Church
was Film No: 101379. full of marriage certificates.  My understanding is this church was
the local church for the Curragh Barracks. :)

Hondaby
Just like to say that Ballysax is a Villiage about 2-3 miles outside the Curragh. Granted there is a graveyard alongside, but the Church used by the Curragh Military is St Brigids which is based in the Curragh Camp.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: duckweed on Wednesday 14 January 09 22:37 GMT (UK)

I have a relative born in Curragh. She was Edith May Spain born on 29th September 1865. she had a sister born in Bermuda so families did indeed travel. Her mother Anne Fahey was also from a military family and born in Cephalonica Greece 1844 which was a base for the British Military during the Crimean War. Family Legend says her father Patrick Fahey was in the charge of the light brigade as a bugler but it doesn't match up. We think there may have been some Faheys born in Curragh but haven't been able to find any. There was a Fahey in the charge of the Light Brigade but we haven't found any link to our family. Edith's grandfather was born in 1810 in Loughrae, Galway. If you find any Faheys or Spains I would be greatful for the information.   

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: CoxDodds on Saturday 17 January 09 00:00 GMT (UK)

Fascinating! Just found out my great gran was born in Curragh Camp from the UK 1911 Census. We don't know any details of her family but she grew up to be an army school teacher before she was married to an army sergeant in the Rifle Brigade. heir children were in Aldershot and Dublin before being posted in Malta, India and the Kyber Pass!

Unfortunately I can find no records of her birth or their marriage on the army marriage records via findmypast. So I have to conclude that as Catholics they were registered in the local catholic church. Anyone got any hints on where I can go next?

Ta

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Saturday 17 January 09 12:29 GMT (UK)

If she was born or married after 1864 her birth and marriage should be registered.

Try the Kildare Registrar's Office in Naas first and failing that the General Register Office.

http://www.groireland.ie/

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: lesleypaters0n on Saturday 17 January 09 13:02 GMT (UK)

My grandfather was born In Naas Military Barracks in 1887, I traced his baptism to the Catholic Church in Naas - the Church of Our Lady & St David - through th Irish Family History Foundation website www.brsgenealogy.com
Lesley

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Kamilla on Wednesday 28 January 09 23:29 GMT (UK)

Quote from: lesleypaters0n on Saturday 27 December 08 22:37 GMT (UK)

Hello again!
Thank you for all that 'gravestone' detail.  No trace of my missing family names.  The church listed on my grandfather's baptism cert is Church of Our Lady and St David Naas.  Perhaps this was a Catholic Church outside the barracks.
Lesley

Hi Lesley
The Church still exists; same location, on entering Naas from Dublin).
The Barracks (Devoy) was situated at the opposite end of the town exiting Naas towards Newbridge and the Curragh Army Camp.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Kamilla on Thursday 29 January 09 00:10 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Mick_Dolan86 on Wednesday 14 January 09 18:20 GMT (UK)

Quote from: PabloC on Wednesday 14 January 09 11:57 GMT (UK)

Excellent photo... :)

My great nan was born in Curragh Camp in 1880, and her birth registered in Naas. Could these then have been the barracks that her father was stationed at, or were there other barracks at Curragh?

Pablo

Was her birth registered in Naas or is the record held in Naas, which is the location of the Registrar's Office for Co. Kildare.

Kildare town and Newbridge were also the sites of barracks on the Curragh.

The Curragh Camp itself was comprised of seven barracks named after British generals until 1922.

Quote from: JohnnyMills on Wednesday 14 January 09 17:30 GMT (UK)

Fascinating information about Curragh Camp.

Perhaps someone could help me out? I'm trying to find which regiments were stationed there in 1898. I know my Grand Uncle was born there, in 1898.

My Grandfather was born at Shorncliffe in 1908. I'm trying to work out my Great-Grandfathers pre-war regiment (11th PAO Hussars 14-18). He was on active service abroad (Africa/India?), in 1901.

Is there one regiment that was at Curragh in 1898, the Boer War in 1901 and at Shorncliffe in 1908? Could it be the Regiment he fought and died for in WW1, namely, the 11th Hussars?

Thanks!

The Royal Artillery Museum was able to tell me which artillery units were based in Clonmel so if you write too the Royal Hussars Museum I'd say they'll be able to tell you where the 11th Hussars were in 1898 and which cavalry units were stationed in the Curragh at the time.

http://www2.army.mod.uk/the_kings_royal_hussars/museum.htm

The 11th Hussars website says they were in India from 1892 until going to South Africa in 1899.

Also since your great grandad fought in WW1 have you tried to get his service record.

Hi Mick
The Curragh was indeed the largest Army Camp (7 barracks) which still exists today and can be seen in the distance across the plains from the Curragh race course.
Kildare (1 barracks) situated approx 2 miles westwards and no longer exists as an army facility.
Newbridge (1 barracks & no longer exists) 3 miles eastwards from the Curragh towards Naas & Dublin.
Naas, Devoy barracks approx 1/3 size of the Curragh and 9 miles away is demolished.
All births, army and civilian were and are still registered at Popular House Naas.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: CoxDodds on Wednesday 04 February 09 20:21 GMT (UK)

There is an excellent book(s) which helps you trace where regiments were from 1640 up to the end of WW1. It is called "In search of forlorn hope" by John Kitzmiller, ISBN-13: 978-0961926052 . The 1800's onwards is contained in the 2nd volume (Volume 1 - 1640 to ~ 1800 I think by please check)

I ordered a copy via my local library for £10, but had to wait 6 weeks for it as it is very popular. Data is grouped by location in 10 year bands. Unfortunately you are only able to keep it for 10 days, so had to give it back some time ago!

If someone has it perhaps they could post the list on here?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: david_81 on Wednesday 11 February 09 09:40 GMT (UK)

Chris
My mother recently died. Her birth certificate shows she was born April 22 1916 at The Curragh Camp. Her father was Robin Roodhouse a Sergeant Major in the 8th Kings Royal Irish Hussars.
david

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Duncanjack on Sunday 15 February 09 23:29 GMT (UK)

My g.g.grandfather, William James Kirby a Fencing Sgt in the 19th Hussars was at Curragh from 1877 probably till 1880.  Army record clear as to when he went not so clear for how long.
Incidentally anyone with information concerning 19th Hussars from 1862 - 1880 I would appreciate. finding it difficult to obtain by "googling".

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 10 March 09 18:05 GMT (UK)

Hi Duncanjack,

Welcome to RootsChat.

See if you can borrow a copy of Con Costello's book "A Most Delightful Station: The British Army on the Curragh of Kildare, Ireland, 1855-1922" It was published by Dufour Editions in 1997. It may not mention specific soldiers but should give an idea of their duties and life at the Curragh.

Christopher

 

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Duncanjack on Tuesday 10 March 09 23:37 GMT (UK)

Thank you for replying, I have now acquired a copy of that very book.
Jackie

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Ann Kerr on Wednesday 25 March 09 20:36 GMT (UK)

Hi Christopher

Just read your post today. My G-Grandfather, Alexander William Craig was born at Curragh Camp July 17th., 1870. His father was Thomas H. Craig, Mother Sarah Munroe Craig. Thomas and Sarah had 3 children, Sarah Born 1868 in Gunhill, Barbados, West Indies, Alexander Born 1870, Curragh Camp and Fannie Born Westville, Nova Scotia, Canada. Would there be any records at Curragh Camp stating where or when Thomas Craig was born and who his parents were.  Thomas is listed as Sgt. 2/16 Regt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Ann
Nova Scotia, Canada

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 04 April 09 13:28 BST (UK)

Hi Ann,

Post a message on the Armed Forces board.

Regular posters on that section may be able to give you more information about the 2/16 Regiment. 

Christopher

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Saturday 09 May 09 20:21 BST (UK)

Quote from: Ann Kerr on Wednesday 25 March 09 20:36 GMT (UK)

Hi Christopher

Just read your post today. My G-Grandfather, Alexander William Craig was born at Curragh Camp July 17th., 1870. His father was Thomas H. Craig, Mother Sarah Munroe Craig. Thomas and Sarah had 3 children, Sarah Born 1868 in Gunhill, Barbados, West Indies, Alexander Born 1870, Curragh Camp and Fannie Born Westville, Nova Scotia, Canada. Would there be any records at Curragh Camp stating where or when Thomas Craig was born and who his parents were.  Thomas is listed as Sgt. 2/16 Regt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Ann
Nova Scotia, Canada

There wouldn't be any records at the Curragh for the British Army. They are held in the PRO in London.

2/16 probably means 2nd Battalion of the 16th Regiment. Before 1881 British Infantry Regiments were known officially by their numbers. The 16th Foot became the Bedfordshire Regiment in 1881. This link gives a good general history of the regiment

http://www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/16thfoothistory.html

In fact I see they had a long association with Ireland.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: malchie1 on Saturday 16 May 09 23:49 BST (UK)

how do i find out if my great grandfather was in army in 1886 the reason why i think this cause the 3 chikdren 1 born in Dublin 2 in scotland and  one reason why they would move around they  where marriesdin Belfast maybe he was in 13th belfast bn regiment would this info be one their marriage cert

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Ado on Friday 14 August 09 19:52 BST (UK)

My grandfather John Joseph Murray in 20th Hussars (Pte 4825, see postcard below, probably dated Sept 1910) deserted from Curragh Camp 4th Jan 1911 with 4 others from 20th Hussars and 1 from the 2nd Connaught Rangers.  There had been 5 deserted on 2nd Jan from 2nd Conn Rangers, and 3 on 28th Dec 1910 from 2nd Conn Rangers.  The reason preserved in the family for grandfather's desertion is that another soldier had shot himself through the head and this had really unsettled many of these young men.  I cannot find a mention in the excellent record of graves at Curragh on this site of a death at that time.
 
The information about the deserters is from the Police Gazette, 17th January 1911, viewed in the National Archives - every issue of this weekly bulletin has a list of deserters on the front page (photos below), it was obviously commonplace at that time, from various barracks.  It includes absentees of course, who may have wanted family leave at this time of year. 

My grandfather was not caught - he and a younger brother fled via thier home in Workington, to the continent where they boarded a German ship bound for Australia.  They (five brothers in all) fought in the AIF at Gallipoli and in France and all survived WWI, to settle in Perth, WA.

Unfortunately I cannot find any military records of him in the 20th Hussars in the National Archives although I have his AIF records and WWII records both from the excellent Australian Army archive website.  It seems soldiers who died or deserted had no pension so their records were no preserved, unlike those who were discharged for various reasons.


Images Removed: only a small portion of an image may be posted for assistance with handwriting etc.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: LizzieW on Friday 14 August 09 23:19 BST (UK)

My grandfather (19th Hussars) was also at Curragh Camp, but he got out by somehow persuading the authorities that he was apparently a "lunatic who was dangerous to himself or others" (As defined in Army Regulations of the time).  He was sent home and straight to a mental asylum in 1906, but only 6 weeks later he was discharged.  The archivist who find out the info from the asylum told me that there was nothing written on his asylum records apart from date of entry and date of discharge and that she'd never seen records like it.

Ado - Having read the book "A Most Delightful Station: The British Army on the Curragh of Kildare, Ireland, 1855-1922" it seems that there were often suicides etc. at the camp and I wonder if my grandfather was suffering from, what today would be called, post traumatic stress disorder, which seems to tie in with what you are saying was still happening in 1910 and caused many soldiers to desert.

Lizzie

ps.  Should have said grandad was married only 1 year later and everything seemed to be normal after that.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Pauline_Hutton on Sunday 23 August 09 18:36 BST (UK)

My gt grandfather William Chamberlain was in the Curragh serving in the 6th Dragoon Guards in July 1869.

regards

pauline

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Gaille on Sunday 23 August 09 19:22 BST (UK)

Quote from: Christopher on Friday 05 May 06 01:23 BST (UK)

This is a rough guide of regiments at the Curragh Camp.
Please post if you know of other regiments giving the dates they were at the Curragh.
1805 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1855 The Curragh Camp was established as a base for a brigade
1856 51st Regiment
1860 - October 1860 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
April 1861 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
31st March 1865 - 3rd August 1865 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1865 - 1866 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
22nd February 1866 - 8th August 1866 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1866 - 1867 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
1880 47th Regiment of Foot
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
Sept 1885 - Oct 1886 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
1891 - 1893
1st Royal Irish; 1st Wiltshire; 2nd Gordons; 2nd Royal Welsh
Fusiliers and 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1892 - 1896 15th Hussars Calvary
1912 2nd Battalion Royal Sussex Regiment
1914 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment
1915 5th Service Battalion Jan - May Royal Field Artillery

Excellent info!
I have a photo I needed to date, its either a Manchesters, or Kings Liverpool reg so I now have narrowed a date to either 1882 or 1914 depending on the regiment, might FINALLY be able to figure out who he is now!

Gaille

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: cailin on Monday 24 August 09 16:36 BST (UK)

I believe that my great-grandad, John Wilson, may have been stationed at the Curragh Camp during WW1, although it is only family history - I have no exact dates or information to back it up.  Originally from South Dublin City Centre, my Dad believes John first joined the South Irish Horse when they were based at Beggars Bush Barracks, which would have been just down the road. The Wilsons were farriers by trade, and by the end of the war, apparently John had been promoted to Farrier Serjent.

Can anyone confirm if some of the South Irish Horse were stationed at the Curragh, or would he have been dispatched to join another regiment / battalion to be at the Curragh??

Moderator's Note: See also post on WWI board-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,402383.msg2715777.html#msg2715777

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: aj44 on Thursday 27 August 09 11:24 BST (UK)

For anyone who is interested in the British Army stationed in the Curragh Camp, you should read Con Costello's - "A Most Delightful Station: The British Army On The Curragh Of Kildare 1855 - 1922".

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Thursday 27 August 09 16:47 BST (UK)

Quote from: cailin on Monday 24 August 09 16:36 BST (UK)

Can anyone confirm if some of the South Irish Horse were stationed at the Curragh, or would he have been dispatched to join another regiment / battalion to be at the Curragh??

The SIH was in France in WW1. They became 7th Bn, Royal Irish Regiment in 1917. The Curragh was home to a few Reserve Cavalry Regiments during the war so he could have been in one of them.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: guildford on Thursday 03 September 09 17:13 BST (UK)

My Gt Grandfather who was in the Army Service Corps as a Corporal, was at the camp when my grandmother was born - she was baptised there on 25.7.1869 her name was Louisa Maria Ross - her father was George  (Ogilvie) - mother Ellen nee Mahon. The clergyman was Edward Hillman.
They married at Ballsax Church Kildare on 6th September 1868.   Any information or assistance would be gratefully appreciated, they had another son George - then cam to Camberwell in London England when George disappeard

Would love to hear from anyone

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: pompeylad on Sunday 13 September 09 20:36 BST (UK)

My gr gr grandfather John McInnes attested as a Sapper in 1855 in Glasgow. In 1865 he was at the Curragh where my gr grandfather Edward Wells McInnes was born. There is no civil registration for Edward apparently (I spoke to the Irish GRO), but the army birth/baptism certificate was available. The baptism was performed by Rev J Molony, R.C. Chaplain to the Forces, and the Adjutant certifying the entry was correct was E. Simm, Capt. R.E. This baptism was our first indication of the family's Roman Catholic faith. More recently I found the transcription of Edward's church baptism, on the brsgenealogy web site. Having wondered where Edward's middle name came from, the baptism provided a possible clue in that one of the sponsors/informants was John Wells. Nothing further is known of this person.
By September 1867 the family were in Canterbury, Kent.
I'd be interested in information about sappers/engineers at the Curragh at this time.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: oldhack on Wednesday 21 October 09 09:09 BST (UK)

As a newcomer, I am not sure if anyone has raised the fact that at least one troop of 3 RHA was at Curragh Camp from some time in 1911. I know this because both my uncle and my father were born at the Curragh Military Hospital. The troop then went to France in 1914.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: mokel on Thursday 06 May 10 21:54 BST (UK)

 Hi I am new to this. My grandfather Alfred Croft was based at the Curragh Camp after returning from the Boer War in 1902 until 1908. He was in the 19th Hussars. His first wife, Fanny Mason sadly died there in 1907, not long after the birth of her second son. What I would like to know is whether she is buried in the Curragh Cemetery - perhaps Mike Dolan might be able to point me in the right direction. Thank you.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Thursday 06 May 10 22:22 BST (UK)

If she's not on the list of transcriptions I provided then she is either buried elsewhere- Newbridge or Kildare for instance, or her tombstone is illegible or disappeared.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: mokel on Thursday 06 May 10 22:30 BST (UK)

Thank you Mike. I did go through your transcriptions from the military cemetery but wondered if there was another for non military personnel. Do you know if the two cemeteries you mentioned have had their gravestones transcrjbed? Thanks again.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Thursday 06 May 10 22:48 BST (UK)

Most libraries have local studies sections with transcriptions of headstones in them. You could try e-mailing the libraries in those towns.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: inahaystack on Thursday 03 June 10 14:16 BST (UK)

I'm a newbie too, so please bear with me.  ???

My great grandfather Simon Short, attested for the 26 Brigade of Infantry and joined General Service at Curragh Camp on 1st July 1879. 

In May 1880 he transferred to Aldershot.

Can someone tell me the difference between a Brigade of Infantry and a Regiment please, and which, if any, were at Curragh Camp between  Jul 1879 @ May 1880.

I have looked at all the previous posts for regiments stationed at Curragh, but there are none listed for those particular dates.

Some superb research done for The Curragh by members, well done !

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Graves1879 on Saturday 05 June 10 17:16 BST (UK)

Hi All

I am new to this forum  ;)

I am trying to find a photograph of the stone of Augustus Underwood who is buried in the Curragh Military Cemetery.

"In memory of Augustus Underwood Private Rifle Brigade who died 15th June 1880 aged 23 years. Watch and pray. This stone is erected in gratitude for faithful service done to an Officer who died in the Zulu War."

Any Help Appreciated

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Saturday 05 June 10 19:41 BST (UK)

Next time I'm in the Curragh I'll do it for you but it may be a month or so.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Graves1879 on Saturday 05 June 10 22:34 BST (UK)

Hi Mick_Dolan86

Very much appreciated

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Thursday 08 July 10 19:25 BST (UK)

Augustus Underwood grave, Curragh Cemetery

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/md24124549/War%20Memorials/Underwood_8.jpg)

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/md24124549/War%20Memorials/Underwood_7.jpg)

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/md24124549/War%20Memorials/Underwood_5.jpg)

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/md24124549/War%20Memorials/Underwood_6.jpg)

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Graves1879 on Friday 09 July 10 18:03 BST (UK)

Hi Mick_Dolan86

Very much appreciated and a big thank you  :)

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Alstromeria on Friday 23 July 10 17:40 BST (UK)

Quote from: Christopher on Friday 05 May 06 01:23 BST (UK)

This is a rough guide of regiments at the Curragh Camp.
Please post if you know of other regiments giving the dates they were at the Curragh.
1805 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1855 The Curragh Camp was established as a base for a brigade
1856 51st Regiment
1860 - October 1860 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
April 1861 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
31st March 1865 - 3rd August 1865 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1865 - 1866 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
22nd February 1866 - 8th August 1866 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1866 - 1867 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
1880 47th Regiment of Foot
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
Sept 1885 - Oct 1886 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
1891 - 1893
1st Royal Irish; 1st Wiltshire; 2nd Gordons; 2nd Royal Welsh
Fusiliers and 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1892 - 1896 15th Hussars Calvary
1912 2nd Battalion Royal Sussex Regiment
1914 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment
1915 5th Service Battalion Jan - May Royal Field Artillery

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Alstromeria on Friday 23 July 10 18:13 BST (UK)

My greatgrandfather, Pte. James Gilbert of the 2nd  10th Lincolnshire Regiment was stationed at the Curragh in 1858/9 and,  with his wife Mary Ann nee Twiss, embarked on HMS Urgent  at Kingstown  in late December  1859 sailing to South Africa.   I think they were probably married at The Church of Our Lady & St. David, Naas or at Ballysax Parish Church in either 1858 or 59.
In 1863 They were posted to India and in 1870 to Burma arriving back in England in 1873.   I have a wedding photograph of  Mary Ann's daughter, Mary Jane, taken in 1873/4 when she was married to Sgt. James Griffin of the same Regiment.
This 2nd Batt. of the 10th Foot, Lincolnshire Regiment was re-formed  at Mullingar in 1858.   Previously, Pte. Gilbert had been in the Lincolnshire Regiment in England

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Tollys mum on Tuesday 03 August 10 08:02 BST (UK)

Quote from: Christopher on Friday 05 May 06 01:23 BST (UK)

This is a rough guide of regiments at the Curragh Camp.
Please post if you know of other regiments giving the dates they were at the Curragh.
1805 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1855 The Curragh Camp was established as a base for a brigade
1856 51st Regiment
1860 - October 1860 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
April 1861 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
31st March 1865 - 3rd August 1865 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1865 - 1866 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
22nd February 1866 - 8th August 1866 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1866 - 1867 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
1880 47th Regiment of Foot
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
Sept 1885 - Oct 1886 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
1891 - 1893
1st Royal Irish; 1st Wiltshire; 2nd Gordons; 2nd Royal Welsh
Fusiliers and 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1892 - 1896 15th Hussars Calvary
1912 2nd Battalion Royal Sussex Regiment
1914 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment
1915 5th Service Battalion Jan - May Royal Field Artillery

Hi, I see you have 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment at Curragh in 1914.  I believe they were also there  earlier as my father's cousin served with them and gave Curragh Camp as his address when registering his brother's death in 1912.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 03 August 10 21:42 BST (UK)

Hi Tollys Mum and welcome to Rootschat.  You could be right about the 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment being in Curragh before 1914, but sadly Christopher who originally posted the list died some time ago.  There may be others on here who have more info.

Lizzie

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: eileenmcd on Wednesday 18 August 10 00:18 BST (UK)

hi can anyone help? the marriage certificate i have of my g.grandparents  James McDonald and Mary Anne Dunne states they were married at kilmeague church of ireland,on the 23rd of Feb 1886. they lived in kilmeague and James McDonald was in in the infantry regt. from the 1911 census i know that James was born in Dublin and Mary co kildare, does this mean that James was at curragh camp?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Kamilla on Sunday 24 October 10 22:55 BST (UK)

He may or may not.
Marriages usually took place in the Brides home place.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: smileyface471686 on Wednesday 03 November 10 01:35 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Christopher on Friday 05 May 06 01:23 BST (UK)

This is a rough guide of regiments at the Curragh Camp.
Please post if you know of other regiments giving the dates they were at the Curragh.
1805 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1855 The Curragh Camp was established as a base for a brigade
1856 51st Regiment
1860 - October 1860 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
April 1861 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
31st March 1865 - 3rd August 1865 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1865 - 1866 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
22nd February 1866 - 8th August 1866 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1866 - 1867 85th Foot. The King's Light Infantry
1880 47th Regiment of Foot
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
Sept 1885 - Oct 1886 1st Batallion 24th Regiment of Foot. South Wales Borderers
1882 The King's Regiment (Liverpool)
1891 - 1893
1st Royal Irish; 1st Wiltshire; 2nd Gordons; 2nd Royal Welsh
Fusiliers and 36th Foot 2nd Battalion Worcestershire Regiment
1892 - 1896 15th Hussars Calvary
1912 2nd Battalion Royal Sussex Regiment
1914 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment
1915 5th Service Battalion Jan - May Royal Field Artillery

My great great grandfather James Bingle was in the 29th Royal Worcestershire and on his service records it states that from 11 Sept 1874 -4th July 1875 he was re-engaged at the Curragh to complete his 21 years service.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: FLC1 on Friday 05 November 10 23:01 GMT (UK)

Hi, RE: FANNY MASON
 My late husband's grandfather was Alfred Croft. I am trying to trace the family history of the Croft side. Fanny Mason died on 31st March 1907 after giving birth to George Cyril Croft ( my father-in-law) I have a loving memory card that says Fanny Mason was interred at the Military Cemetery, Curragh. Please can you give me any information you have about Alfred Croft, birth & place of birth etc. I would be most grateful.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 08 November 10 11:17 GMT (UK)

Welcome to Rootschat. This is the post on Alfred Croft/Fanny Mason earlier in this thread:

Quote from: mokel on Thursday 06 May 10 21:54 BST (UK)

Hi I am new to this. My grandfather Alfred Croft was based at the Curragh Camp after returning from the Boer War in 1902 until 1908. He was in the 19th Hussars. His first wife, Fanny Mason sadly died there in 1907, not long after the birth of her second son. What I would like to know is whether she is buried in the Curragh Cemetery - perhaps Mike Dolan might be able to point me in the right direction. Thank you.

Mokel hasn't been online since August but perhaps they will return and see your message.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Alex123 on Sunday 21 November 10 07:41 GMT (UK)

I have stumbled on this thread by accident but it half answers a puzzle I had.

My Great Grandfather was Arthur Thompson Coates who was a soldier. I 1882 he married Lizzie McManus who was born in Belfast. My grandfather Henry Coates was born in Buttevant.

My great grandfather's records (some bits of which I have been able to find show that)


He was recruited at Richmond, Yorkshire on December 2 1880 by the 5th West Yorkshire Militia. Service details include Private 4th Corps November 26, 1880,  Private York Brigade Depot February 21 1881,  Signed on for 12 more years at the Curragh Dublin January 3 1884 Bandsman December 20 1883. Private June 12 1886 Transferred to Private 2nd Battalion Yorkshire Regiment November 12 1890 Transferred Private to King's Own Yorkshire Ligh Infantry October 1 1892 Discharged as a private February 16 1893 after completing service. He resigned and subsequently spent 13 years in India and some time in South Africa.

One of the things I had been interested in was about the Curragh - I had no idea what it was and had put it to one side and told myself I would find out about it later. Now I have come across your site. Would you have any idea of a site which could give me further and full information as to exactly what the CUrragh was. From reading the postings it was obviously an army site for many regiments but I would like to learn more about it and also I wonder how my great grandfather would have come to be there and resigning there.

Thank you

June

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Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: FLC1 on Sunday 21 November 10 14:01 GMT (UK)

I found out about the Currragh by looking it up on google

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: herebedragons on Sunday 19 December 10 21:04 GMT (UK)

I have just received a copy of the marriage certificate of my great great grandmother Christiana Helson Loynes to John White, private in the 15th Foot, residing at Curragh Camp on the date of their marriage - 19th July 1861.
She was the widow of another soldier James Loynes/Loyans/Lyons who died in Malta from his wounds from fighting at Sebastapol.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Gaille on Saturday 08 January 11 23:25 GMT (UK)

Would anyone know what years the Shropshire light Infantry might have been at Curragh camp?

I am trying to work out if a photo is my gt-grandad or not, the photo has a photographers name & "Currah Camp" on te bottom of it, but no dates or info on it :(

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: denisc on Thursday 27 January 11 16:38 GMT (UK)

Hi, I also have an ancestor who was in the 10th Foot or Linconlnshire regiment.  He was Alfred Archibald Creighton.  I had discovered that he married a Sarah Elizabeth Clarke in Fort Beaufort in the Cape Colony on 27th March 1863.  He gave his rank as Sergeant in the 10th Regiment in the marriage papers.  (both of them seemed to have originated in the Lancashire area of England).
I was today searching in the S A War Museum in Saxonwold Johannesburg South Africa and came across a book being a collection of regimental periodicals of the Second Battalion 10th North Lincolnshire Regiment entitled the North Lincoln Sphinx.  Apparantly they ran the periodical during the stay in the Colony from January 1860 to departure after december 1862 to India.  It comprised articles, poems etc from the officers and men as well as reports on drama and sport etc.  It also gives a unique insight into life in the military in the colony.  It is very interesting indeed.  It also covers the departure from Curragh Camp.
I was amazed to find a report on a cricket match played between two companies and the name of my second great grandfather in the match report (he was run out for 0 in first innings and bowled for 2 in second!!).  He was a corporal at that stage.
I noted that the batallion sailed in two ships-the HMS Vulcan leaving on8/12/1859 and the HMS Urgent on 11/1/1860.  The Vulcan apparantly was nearly shipwrecked on the way.  The regiment landed at Algoa Bay (now Port Elizabeth) and moved to Grahamstown in January 1860 and then Keiskammahoek.  Elements were also stationed around the frontier area in various post aparantly.  According to the notes the batallion embarked for India after december 1862 but when they exactly left I cannot say. 
Perhaps they were replaced later by the 1st Batallion.  My ancestor was aparanlty still with the 10th in march 1863.
I hope this will fill some blanks and that someone can add to my knowledge.  I dont know how widely the book is available but I could always check it if anyone wants some specific details of an ancestor who may have been with the regiment in the Cape
Denis

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: famhistp on Thursday 05 May 11 21:57 BST (UK)

King's Own Light Infantry, Tower Hamlet Militia was at the Curragh Camp in 1859 - Great Great Grandfather is listed there in a Quaterly Pay List from 1859 (seen at the National Archives, Kew, UK.) and his son was baptised at the Curragh Roman Catholic Parish Church in March 1859.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: OWENJOHN on Friday 20 May 11 01:36 BST (UK)

Hi my Uncle has recently found paperwork belonging to my Great Grandfather Philip John Owen born in Swansea in 1881, we have an original letter of recommendation written for Philip by Captain H Ward RFA in December 1909, the note is on headed paper and the heading is R A Mess, Kildare. Im not sure which battalian he was with then but we also have his original discharge papers and Medal Roll which state that he earned the Victory RFA/168B 13611, Star RFA/2A-B 3511 and British War Medal, SWB list RA/331, does anyone know what these codes mean and if they give any clue to the battalian he served with? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 20 May 11 08:00 BST (UK)

He OwenJohn,

It may be better to post your query on the Medal Roll details on the forum for Armed Forces queries. I'm sure that some of the experts in military matters will be able to tell you more..

see : Armed Forces (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,300.0.html)


Shane

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: ghilly on Monday 18 July 11 18:42 BST (UK)

Hi, the 2nd Battalion 16th Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment were at the Curragh around 1861 and 1870
and 1869/70 44th East Sussex Regiment

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: OWENJOHN on Friday 22 July 11 00:56 BST (UK)

Thanks for your help much appreciated

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: armagh20 on Friday 09 September 11 22:25 BST (UK)

A very interesting thread.
The Black Watch Royal Highlanders have served many times in Ireland and I am sure that they must have been at the Curragh Camp,any one with any dates?
Joe

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: kildaremark on Monday 10 October 11 19:51 BST (UK)

Hi Owenjohn,

I am carrying ot some research on Kildare Barracks and would be interested in getting details on your relative. The 47th Brigade RFA consisting of 140, 141 and 142 batteries were in Kildare in 1909 before moving on to Borden in June 1911.

Regards

Mark

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: mokel on Wednesday 02 November 11 22:45 GMT (UK)

Quote from: FLC1 on Friday 05 November 10 23:01 GMT (UK)

Hi, RE: FANNY MASON
 My late husband's grandfather was Alfred Croft. I am trying to trace the family history of the Croft side. Fanny Mason died on 31st March 1907 after giving birth to George Cyril Croft ( my father-in-law) I have a loving memory card that says Fanny Mason was interred at the Military Cemetery, Curragh. Please can you give me any information you have about Alfred Croft, birth & place of birth etc. I would be most grateful.

Hello I am the grandaughter of Alfred Croft from his second marriage to Evelyn Butler in 1910. They had 4 daughters who would be half sisters to Cyril and his brother Alfred also born at the Curragh in 1906. If you want more info let me know. Mokel

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: anonemouse on Friday 25 November 11 23:59 GMT (UK)

sorry this is way too late but i have found a relation
listed at
Curragh camp in 1861
My great great uncle
 Private Joseph Birtwisle 6th Battalion military train Curragh Camp

I do know that Joseph was in her Majestys army at Chatham in 1855
married at Woolwich in 1863
and was not listed in England for the 1861 census

hope this adds another source to the list
kind regards
anonemouse

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: redilion on Thursday 01 December 11 07:39 GMT (UK)

My Great Grandfather was a sergeant in the 19th Hussars based at Curragh Camp in 1880. From marriage certificate.
Redilion

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: anonemouse on Thursday 01 December 11 09:19 GMT (UK)

Having re-looked at my great great uncles marriage certificate , he married at Woolwich in 1863 and was then based at Woolwich barracks. What I originally thought said military training. the end looked squashed, it definitely says Military Train.
He had been a Groom in civilian life. So it makes sense that he could have been dealing with horses in the army. You don't think about the supply side of things being from horse drawn wagons at that time...

Then looking on the net at Curragh Camp, it seems that regiments were based there on rotation. Also in 1861 when my great great uncle was there, could have coincided with the time when the Prince of Wales later Edward V11 was there too.

Anonemouse

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: AntoR22 on Saturday 17 December 11 22:56 GMT (UK)

Hi all

My great great grandfather Robert Snelson Cowap I believe was stationed at the Curragh during the period 1864/1871 when he left to marry an Irish girl Anne Downes from Cork .
He was with the 18th Royal Irish Regiment of Foot ..

Is there a list anywhere that might confirm this ??

Many Thanks ...Anthony

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: mokel on Monday 19 December 11 21:20 GMT (UK)

FLC! - re Fanny Mason and Alfred Croft.
I read your message from November 2010 rather late and left you a message in November this year 2011. I am Alf's grandaughter and would like to exchange information with you regarding the Crofts from both marriages. it would be nice to hear from you.
MOKEL

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 19 December 11 21:29 GMT (UK)

Quote from: AntoR22 on Saturday 17 December 11 22:56 GMT (UK)

....
My great great grandfather Robert Snelson Cowap I believe was stationed at the Curragh during the period 1864/1871 when he left to marry an Irish girl Anne Downes from Cork .
He was with the 18th Royal Irish Regiment of Foot ..

Is there a list anywhere that might confirm this ??
....

for details on military units and locations at various times, it might be better to post a query on the Armed Forces (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,300.0.html) section here on RootsChat.


Leinster Moderator

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: AntoR22 on Tuesday 20 December 11 14:07 GMT (UK)

Hi Shane

Just done that now ... Thanks for advice ..

Anthony

ps.. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to All  :)

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: moira2 on Tuesday 27 December 11 15:01 GMT (UK)

Hi am  new, my G Grandfather Thomas Curran, listed as Sgt Major in the 6r lancs militia, in the 1881 census. had nine children, one of which was born at the Curragh in 1865, his other children were listed as being born in Sth Africa, China, Japan and Ireland and England. I am confused I've noticed that the regiments mentioned at the curragh in 1865 were not the the regiment listed on the 1881 census ?, just wondered if anyone has any info regarding any of the above ?? or where I can find more info ??  Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: bucksboy on Thursday 26 April 12 22:24 BST (UK)

My ex-wife's 1st cousin, 3x removed was a Sargeant in the Commisariat & Transports Corps.   His daughter was born there in 1888.

Steve. :)

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: irish2gen on Saturday 14 July 12 23:00 BST (UK)

Hi, I am new.  :-*
 My gr grandfather, Patrick Grimes was also in the 10th Foot(Lincolnshire Regiment). I would like to know how you accessed the 'North Lincoln Sphinx'.
He was with 2/10th from 1859 to 1868 when transferred to the 1/19th (Yorkshire Regiment).
He was in Cape of Good Hope July 5, 1861-Dec 22, 1864; India Dec 23, 1864-Dec 27, 1871.
He received a medal for the Hazara/Black Mountain Campaign of 1868. Home Dec 28, 1871-Oct 31, 1877; Bermuda Nov 1, 1877-Nov 16, 1880; Halifax, Nova Scotia Nov 17, 1880-Mar14, 1884; Home Mar 15, 1884-April 1, 1884.
He had children born in England, Bermuda, Canada and Ireland.

Does anyone know the ships he may have sailed on? Or have any information that would help me?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: denisc on Sunday 15 July 12 07:40 BST (UK)

Hello,
I am Denis Creighton who posted the original message on the 10th-my g-grandfather Alfred Aarchibald Creighton served therein.
The ships were the HMS Vulcan and HMS Urgent.
I originally found the North Lincoln Sphinx at the War Museum library Johannesburg.  However you can also find it on google books.  I googled North Lincoln Sphinx and found a number of options.  It is an amazing record of the regiment whilst in the Cape-I even found a record of a cricket match my ancestor (then a corporal) played in Greahamstown on 18th Dec 1861.  Unfortunately I havnt printed or ordered a full copy yet.  Creighton left the regiment on 10th July 1863, having married Sarah Elizabeth Clarke,the daughter (aged 16) of a fellow sergeant but in the 6th Regiment-it seems she may have been expecting at the time!!!
The 10th were spread around the colony during the time they were based in the Cape (there were no frontier wars on the go during their stay) and Creighton was based in Grahamstown, Fort Beaufort and Keiskamashoek amonst other places.
My records dont feature a Grimes but you may have more luck if he is featured in the Sphinx.
I wonder if you  or anyone can help me with my other ancestor the above mentioned Thomas Clarke who married Elizabeth Morris but I havent beenm able to locate their marriage record.  He spent most of his life in the 6th regiment as his father also served in the 6th before him and Thomas jnr was born in Grahamstown in 1822 and joined the 6th as a boy aged 14 in Bombay ( I d have the military files for both Thomas Clarkes).  As their daughter was born in 1846 and christened in Chester I think they may have married in Chester or Ireland where the regiment was based-no Curragh but various places including Mullingar.  This is likely to have been in 1844 to 1846 the regiment having been relocated to the cape again in august 1846.
Hope to keep in touch
Denis


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Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: finial on Wednesday 23 January 13 22:46 GMT (UK)

Hello All,

Capt.John James Weaver served with RAMC, attached 2/4th Battalion East Lancashire Regiment.

He died on 20th April 1917, reputedly killed in a riding accident whilst at Curragh Camp.

Could anyone please help with information which might corroborate this story?

Peter

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 24 January 13 08:03 GMT (UK)

Quote from: finial on Wednesday 23 January 13 22:46 GMT (UK)

Hello All,

Capt.John James Weaver served with RAMC, attached 2/4th Battalion East Lancashire Regiment.

He died on 20th April 1917, reputedly killed in a riding accident whilst at Curragh Camp.

Could anyone please help with information which might corroborate this story?

Peter

There's a possible death for him on the BMD Index at the right date and location. A death cert should help confirm some of the details for you - e.g. date and cause of death etc:

  Name: John James Weaver
  Registration district:   Naas
  Event type: Death
  Quarter and year: Apr-Jun 1917
  Age : 66  (est. year of birth 1861)
  Volume:   2 / Page : 653

see : Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,599538.0.html)
         Details included on a Death Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433043.0.html)


Shane

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: finial on Thursday 24 January 13 11:43 GMT (UK)

Many thanks for the guidance and the prompt response, Shane. I am sure that's him - he was born in 1861.

Application for death certificate on its way!

Peter

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: scotmum on Thursday 24 January 13 11:49 GMT (UK)

Just spotted a newspaper article on your chap and he was indeed thrown from his horse....

Quote

    at Curragh Camp, Captain John Weaver, R.A.M.C., was thrown, and sustained fracture of the skull which proved fatal. The deceased officer belonged to Southport. _
 

Seems he was schooling a horse over hurdles at the riding school in the camp when he was thrown from it.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: finial on Thursday 24 January 13 14:25 GMT (UK)

Many thanks, scotmum. I have replied to your pm.

Peter

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Guylian on Monday 26 May 14 11:52 BST (UK)

In the medical section of the service records for John Bonnett (currently mistranscribed as Bennett) of the 68th (Durham) Regiment, he is listed as having been at Curragh Camp in '1870', possibly the entire time between 12 July 1870 and before leaving for India (arriving at Poona on 14 March 1872). (source is the British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcriptions found on findmypast uk).

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: DOD15 on Thursday 20 August 15 21:12 BST (UK)

Hi, Im also looking for a Laurence Purfield (from dublin) of the 47th Foot Regiment 1826-1831.  I dont know where to start,  but know he was in the Royal Hospital Chelsea discharged aged 25.  Any advice on how or where to start. 

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: MJackson on Sunday 11 October 15 02:58 BST (UK)

Hello from Australia. My husband's g/grandfather Edward Jackson married Mary Power(father John Power) 18.8.1857 in Ballysax Parish and is listed as being a private in 16th Lancers,Curragh.Witnesses were Wm Falconer and Maria Ashton.Margaret Jackson

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: CBeach on Monday 08 January 18 00:58 GMT (UK)

This thread is fascinating. Thank you all for the great information about the Curragh. My great great grand father, John Tobin, was with the 8th Hussars in Kildare from 1869-1875. He and his wife Sarah Ann (nee Ludford) had a daughter Ellen in about 1871-1873 (varying dates in census et al.). I found an Ellen Tobin born in Newbridge in 1872 (8th Hussars) in the GRO Regimental Records (British Nationals Armed Forces Births 1761-2005) on findmypast.com.  Somewhere in this forum, someone said that Newbridge was the site of one of the barracks on the Curragh. So it seem likely that this is the right person, but you never know.
How would I order a birth certificate?
Thank you in advance!

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Sinann on Monday 08 January 18 01:12 GMT (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat
This is a British record so it's the GRO in England you need.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

I've never used this GRO if you have any questions I'd ask in the Common Room here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/common-room/

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: CBeach on Monday 08 January 18 01:36 GMT (UK)

I tried the GRO but she's not there.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Sinann on Monday 08 January 18 01:55 GMT (UK)

I've searched quite a bit and everything I'm finding says the GRO has them
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-armed-forces/

As I said try asking in The Common Room someone there should know how to order, they may be in a sub section.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Sinann on Monday 08 January 18 02:04 GMT (UK)

It's on their website as well
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#Overseas1

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: tonepad on Monday 08 January 18 07:03 GMT (UK)

2nd Oct 1907 - 6th Aug 1910 the 18th (Queen Mary's Own) Royal Hussars under the 3rd Cavalry Brigade. Quartered in Ponsonby Barracks.

Sorry have not read all the posts to see if you have this one already.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: dathai on Monday 08 January 18 10:35 GMT (UK)

Birth as unknown 22nd Dec 1871 Reg Jan 1872  Naas
25 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03263/2196054.pdf

Anne 16th Oct 1873 Little Water St, Longford
126 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03171/2163231.pdf

Mary Anne 26th Nov 1870 Islandbridge,Dublin
42 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03311/2213833.pdf

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Sinann on Monday 08 January 18 11:56 GMT (UK)

I looked under Naas last night but forgot to check Unknowns
Why would it be registered in Naas and the Regimental register as well, bit odd isn't it?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: dathai on Monday 08 January 18 17:55 GMT (UK)

Possibly has to be registered on Regimental Register for his pay sheet ?

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Sinann on Monday 08 January 18 18:10 GMT (UK)

Ah ya, that makes sense.
Still I assume you can't be registered twice so maybe there is a note on the other one and that is why the British GRO doesn't have it, it's only in the Military Records.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: dathai on Monday 08 January 18 18:28 GMT (UK)

May be of interest
Riding Master John Atkins Pickworth
1871 to 1872 Islandbridge Barrack's
1874 to 1876 8th Huzzar, Longford Barracks
http://www.hussards-photos.com/UK/UK_Canterbury_BIG.htm

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: grizzly1 on Tuesday 01 May 18 19:13 BST (UK)

I have a Joseph Morris soldier marrying Mary Doran at Baltinglass church on 14/11/1911.
On the 5th January 1914 they have a son Michael born, the birth cert states that father Joseph Morris is soldier 'Curragh Camp'..

Im trying to trace any info on Joseph Morris and hope that someone will tell me what Regiments were at the camp between the time scale 14-11-1911 to 5-1-1914.

Perhaps then I will be able to apply for army records..thank you.

Title: Re: Curragh Camp. Regiments
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 01 May 18 19:46 BST (UK)

These guys are in the Curragh Camp at the time of the Census bit before the marriage of course.