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apologies, this should be in the requests section :-[ would it be possible for the moderators to move it ? thanks
The following couple married in W.Derby in 1889:
Alfred Martin WOVENDEN (bn 1856, Liverpool)
Janetta Middlecott PLANE (bn 1863, Liverpool) (sometimes 'Jenetta')
They migrated to Canada, Alfred in 1893, Janetta following in 1894.
In 1881 Alfred had been living with his family at '179 Islington', Liverpool, and Janetta ('Janette') at '330 Kensington', West Derby, which I assume is also Liverpool.
In the Canadian 1901 census Alfred unaccountably seems to be listed as 'Robert'.
I'd be very grateful if someone could find them in 1891 :)
TIA
Hugh in Sheffield
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Hi there
I did a full county search of 1891 through 1837online.com site but could not find Alfred Wovenden anywhere, When I put in the surname only still didn't get any results. Sorry
Sammiboy
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thanks for looking Sammiboy.
I have since found an entry in an 1894 trade directory as follows:
15 Riverdale Road (Seacombe) [Birkenhead]
Wovenden Mrs
17 Riverdale Road
Plane Wm Thos bookkeeper
(Kelly's Directory of Liverpool & Birkenhead, 1894.)
This is Janetta living next to her parents, after Alfred left for Canada, and ... it's in Cheshire ::)
Maybe they were there in 1891 ?! (I know it's not Lancashire :D)
Hugh
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Hi Hugh
It is a wonder they didn't show up in the 1891 census when an advance search in every county was done. Still there are always mysteries in genealogy. Happy hunting. Sammiboy
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Hi,
The Mrs. Wovenden you have found in 1894 MAY be her mother in law. In the 1891 the widowed Mary Wovenden born 1822ish is also living in Seacombe at 76 Littledale Road with daughter Isabella and nephews Earnest Nial Wovenden aged 17 born Plymouth Devon and William Patterson, 24, Lancashire Bootle.
There is also a Married Mary Wovenden aged 36 born Liverpool in Seacombe with
Daughters Florence Ethel 8 and Lilian Maudly? 6.
No sign of your Alfred/Robert or Janette though.
Regards,
Mo
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Thanks for that Mo :)
Mary born c1822 died in 1891. There is a Miss Wovenden at the address in Littledale Road in the 1894 Directory. (could be Isabella or Fanny?).
Mary aged 36 was the wife of Alfred's brother Harry, who would have been away at sea. Lilian Maud was my wife's grandmother.
Mrs Wovenden still could be Janetta, but I mustn't jump to conclusions :D
Hugh
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Hi Hugh,
Take a look at 1891 England Census.
Cheshire>Poulton with Seacombe> District 21
I think this is your family but badly transcribed as 'Afret M Worden' and wife as 'Annette' living at 15 Riversdale Road, Seacombe, Wallasey, Cheshire.
There's also the Liverpool Electoral Register for 1889-1890 which shows Alfred Martin Wovenden living at 1 Port View, Seacombe, Lancs.
Hope this helps.
Regards
randomlil
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Wow thanks :) That's an old thread! I'll pass this on to my sister-in-law in Canada who is the genealogist for my wife's family.
Are you interested in the Wovenden family?
Hugh
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Hi Hugh
Yes, I have Wovendens in my family tree (Great x2 grandmother) and they spelled their name in many different ways over the years, eg Wovinden, Woffenden, Wolfenden etc. I found your missing 1891 couple by using a wildcard W*d?n for the surname in Ancestry - which technique has found quite a few of my ancestors.
PS I lived in Sheffield throughout the 1970's - small world :)
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Hi,
The Mrs. Wovenden you have found in 1894 MAY be her mother in law. In the 1891 the widowed Mary Wovenden born 1822ish is also living in Seacombe at 76 Littledale Road with daughter Isabella and nephews Earnest Nial Wovenden aged 17 born Plymouth Devon and William Patterson, 24, Lancashire Bootle.
There is also a Married Mary Wovenden aged 36 born Liverpool in Seacombe with
Daughters Florence Ethel 8 and Lilian Maudly? 6.
No sign of your Alfred/Robert or Janette though.
Regards,
Mo
I wonder if this is an earlier record for Mary Wovenden
Baptism: 8 Apr 1863 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Walter Martin Wovenden - [Child] of William Wovenden & Mary
Born: 23 Jan 1863
Abode: Brunswick Rd
Occupation: Painter
Baptised by: J. Wm. Welsh Curate
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HI Randomlil,
Hugh forwarded your comment on to me. I would love to know more about your Wovenden connections. It seems there aren't too many of us though DNA has helped find some.
Thanks,
Bev
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Sorry to butt in here but I looked at some Trees and they dont seem to have info on Mary Wovenden nee Yates.
Sorry if you all have this by now.
Baptism:
12 Aug 1821 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire
MARY Yates - [Child] of John Yates & Mary
Abode: Olive St
Occupation: Painter
Siblings;
Joseph 22 Aug 1819
Ann 30 Mar 1823
Sarah 16 May 1824
Agnes 3 Dec 1826
1841 Census
Trowbridge Street
Liverpool, Lancs
John Yates, 50, Painter
Mary Yates, 55**
Ann Yates, 15
Agnes Yates, 14
**Mary Yates not born in County
1851 Census
Joseph Yates, 31, Painter, born Liverpool
Sarah Yates, 28
William Yates, 7
Agnes Yates, 5
Sarah Yates, 2 mths
JOHN Yates, 62, Father, Painter, born Liverpool. Lancashire
MARY Yates, 64, Mother, born Cumberland, England
Baptisms on LancsOPC
Trish :)