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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: dennford on Sunday 14 May 06 23:38 BST (UK)
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I am working on a photo for a friend and thought it would be nice to be able to Identify the car for her, can anyone help
Denn
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Hi Denn,
I have looked through my big book of cars and although
there are similar ones, none are a good match.
At first I thought it looked like an Austin series 10 or 12 from approx
1927 / 1930's. although the body and the wheels are the same the
front of the radiator and the headlights are different. As I know very
little about car models, I am afraid I will have to leave it to the experts.
Sorry,
tomkin
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Thanks Tomkin,
At least I think the year would be about right going on the ladies age, she is the little one in the picture.
Denn
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Denn, any idea where the pic. was taken?
Bodger
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That's easy Bodger - a farm in Doodlakine, 1930 or there abouts. But okay, to be serious, Doodlakine is east of Perth, some 200km and of course being in Oz in the 1930s, would obviously mean that it was an imported car. Most likely would have been either British or American, but of course that doesn't rule out vehicles from other countries!
Denn
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A friend suggested that it may be an Oldsmobile!!!!!!!!!
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Is it worth contacting a motor museum? In the UK there is the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu.
www.beaulieu.co.uk
Good luck,
Nanny Jan
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It has the look of a 1925 Essex sedan but with the rear end having differences so maybe an earlier model of it???
???
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i was thinking a Ford
:)
colette
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Hi Denn,
I have had another look and have come up with many
simmilar models which closely resemble your car (radiator & headlamps)
It would also seem that some of these cars were altered for export to
New Zealand etc.
The cars were American Buicks. The models that fit fairly closely
are :- 1924 Buick sport touring model 24-55
1928 Buick sports roadster 28- 54x
If you contact Tomgilbert[AT]adhillstoyota.com.au
and send him a copy of your photo he may be able to help.
I am sure he will also send you photos of his Roadster which has a very
interesting story and well worth reading.
Even if your car is not a Buick Ihave had several hours of enjoyment
trying to identify it. Pity I cannot send you the pictures but they will
all be copyright.
Good hunting,
Tomkin
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Is it really American? It is righthand drive!
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That is why they were altered for export,
Tomkin
Thanks Berlin Bob. Is it possible that you can explain the protocol
so that we can avoid future occurances.
Tomkin
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I shall contact both the addresses suggested, in the meantime I have been doing a bit of research and after looking at many many pic's Ibelieve it to be either a Buik - as Tomkin suggests, or An Oldsmobile. Once I have something definate I shall let you know.
Denn
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Hi Denn,
We may have cracked it. It looks like a 1927 Oldsmobile.
The radiator and headlamps look the same as do the artillary wheels.
The car that I am looking at is a sedan but even the mudguards look the
same. I am going to enlarge and try to compare other details that I can see.
Tomkin
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Hi Tomkin,
Yes I found a couple of pic's on the net and it is almost certainly an Oldsmobile, as for the date, I would go anywhere from 1925 to 1932, have a look at this one, it's the best pic' I can find.
http://hem.passagen.se/tomeli/bil30t.htm
Denn
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Hi Denn,
Have you found a photo with a radiator and badge like the one in your photo?
I've searched but can't find one. It is a very distinctive radiator and badge. I suspect that they would be more reliable pointers to the make than the body shape - some bodies were custom-built in Australia ...
Perhaps an email with the photo to the National Motor Museum might be an idea?
http://www.history.sa.gov.au/motor/about.htm
Or is there a classic car club in your area which might be prepared to help ...
JAP
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Jap, Tomkin 'n all,
I reckon I finally have it, Look at the 1924 Oldsmobile on this site, I don't think we could get a better match - especially that fancy bit of stuff around the top of the radiator (scrolls 'n all).
So I am going to settle for a "1924 Oldsmobile 30B tourer"
Here's the link http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/1924_Oldsmobile_30B_Tourer_Yellow_sf11.jpg
Denn
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Hi Denn,
Fairly good match especially the back.Put that back on to this
1927 Oldsmobile and you have cracked it.Take particular notice of the cylinder headlamps(instead of cone) the artillary wheels, the mudguards and the side
grills.
Cheers,
Tomkin
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That radiator badge rings no bells with me. However, the Australian Olds Society has a lot of pics which do include RH drive cars [so I was wrong there].
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~oldsclub/
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Agree with Hack about the badge, but the profile of the radiator top is positively the same (look at my rather crude diagram). as far as things such as headlights, wheels etc, we must remember that these may have then, as now varied in export models to suit local conditions.
Denn
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Denn, perhaps it would be worth emailing the Victorian club to see whether they can offer any comments especially on the badge (or the car as a whole). As enthusiasts, they will probably be interested ...
Hack, back in the "old days" (i.e. in my youth!), Australia had a great many cars imported from the USA - and with just the odd exception they were all RH drive. My family didn't have a car (those were the days, eh) but my well-off uncle used to get a new car every year; sometimes a Buick, sometimes a Pontiac - all RH drive. My father-in-law had a Chevrolet - again RH drive. And we, as poor students, had ancient (but RH drive) cars - I remember a 1928 Dodge and a 1936 Chevy (I wish we had them now!). These days I guess that most of our imported cars come from countries which drive on the left-hand side of the road so there's no need for special export versions (e.g. from Japan - I have one) but there are also right-hand drive cars imported from countries which drive on the right-hand side of the road (e.g. European cars).
JAP
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Hi Denn,
I have just come across this old post, but maybe you are still linked in to it.
I own the green Oldsmobile pictured on page 2 of this chat, and it is indeed a 1927 Oldsmobile Model 30.E 2Dr. Coach. I am a (life/founding) member of the Oldsmobile Club of Aust.
I can provide absolute information concerning the vehicle in you photograph.
It is definitely an Oldsmobile although the radiator grille badge is not original/correct, and I cannot identify that.
The lack of a body swage identifies the vehicle as either a 1924 Model 30.B or 1925 Model 30.C Standard Tourer (the lack of bumper bars and other "dress ups" precludes it from being a Sport model). Unfortunately the photo cannot provide the information required to distinguish the car between the 2 models I have indicated.
Oldsmobiles, while American based, were exported to many countries including England where presumably your photo was taken.
I hope this information solves your mystery.
Regards,
Richard Wellard
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Good evening,
Just as a note for you, until the 20s all American cars were RH drive. The different manufacturers took until the early 30s before they had all swapped to LH drive.
Most early car manufacturers were coach builders and horse drawn vehs were always RH drive so the driver could see the verge/ditches etc. So they carried this over to there automobiles initially.
John915
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https://www.carnamah.com.au/car-registrations?keyword=KE
The above Link appears an interesting Site, for researching historical vehicle registrations. A close/exact year of registration to Post Photo KE127, looks like KE137 on the above Link page.