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Title: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Jan Ann on Sunday 21 May 06 17:04 BST (UK): Hello ;)

One of my Rellies Jonathan Wade was a Stonemason and Publican in the 1871 census - living at The Crown Inn Appleton, or Appletow (cant quite make it out) Civil Parish: Widnes
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnworth St Luke, Ref RG10/3857 Folio: 112 Page: 8

Does anyone know if it still exists today - or have any photos?

Cheers
Jan :-*
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: northern_rose on Sunday 21 May 06 17:40 BST (UK): I don't know Widnes at all BUT using the net I would say it still exists.

I couldn't find a picture but did find address and phone number!

The Crown Inn Birchfield Rd, Widnes Cheshire, WA8 7TE 0151 424 3707.
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Jan Ann on Sunday 21 May 06 21:06 BST (UK): Hi Rose

Thanks very much - very pretty picture - who is she? :-*

I have found Jonathan Wade in 1871 and he moved to Worcestershire where he was a liscensed victualler. In 1881 he is a Widow and has moved back to the Widnes area - giving his profession as a publican again this time there is no name for the Pub but the address is 7 Page Lane Widnes St Ambrose - anyone know the name of the Pub?

Cheers
Jan :D
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: northern_rose on Sunday 21 May 06 21:40 BST (UK): Jan

The picture was my Dad's cousin.

Pubs on Page lane Widnes -

Commercial Hotel
3, Page Lane, Widnes, Cheshire WA8 0AE
Tel: 0151 423 4463

So he lived next door but one!

Seems unlikely to be two pubs next door but one?
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: northern_rose on Sunday 21 May 06 21:54 BST (UK): Just googled a bit more..........

looks like Page Lane is quite industrial now - certainly a big unit at number 2. So the pub may now be gone.

You need someone with local knowledge - sorry I just googled!

Good luck
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Jan Ann on Sunday 21 May 06 22:29 BST (UK): Hi Rose

Thanks anyway - I've now found him in 1901 a widow and a publican living with is two daughters in The Railway Inn Sadler Street Widnes St Ambrose.

Anyone have photos of this one?

Cheers
Jan :D
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Monday 22 May 06 17:31 BST (UK): http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brianh.taylor/Farnworth_Register.jpg just came across this

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brianh.taylor/appleton_village.htm
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Jan Ann on Monday 22 May 06 22:36 BST (UK): Helloo Migky 8)

Thanks for the links - i have left a message on their Forum - hope we get some results!

Cheers Rose thanks for your help :-*

Cheers & Ta
Jan :D
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: chipking on Wednesday 03 October 12 19:46 BST (UK): crown inn

104 Birchfield Road, Widnes WA8 7TE

this pub is in appleton which is now a part of wdnes
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: jangeo on Wednesday 03 October 12 22:18 BST (UK): The Crown Public house is still trading but it has had some major alterations both inside and outside

The Commercial Hotel in Page Lane has now closed down and is all boarded up. That was the only pub in Page Lane.

Both these pubs can be viewed on the google street map
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Jan Ann on Thursday 04 October 12 19:30 BST (UK): Thanks to both of you for the update and chipking thanks for your suggestion via PM - will give this a whirl

Cheers
Jan :-*
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: chipking on Friday 05 October 12 19:34 BST (UK): the railway inn is no longer there sadler street is thou
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: englandphil on Saturday 03 November 12 05:42 GMT (UK): Jan, you should consider trying to get a copy of this book all about the pubs in Widnes going back 250 years. Sadly cant find y copy at the moment to do a look up

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fancy-Pint-Then-Grab-Your/dp/1906823103
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: tony holman on Tuesday 28 February 17 16:25 GMT (UK): railway inn sadler st widnes 1902
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: tony holman on Tuesday 28 February 17 17:06 GMT (UK): Quote from: Jan Ann on Sunday 21 May 06 22:29 BST (UK)
Hi Rose

Thanks anyway - I've now found him in 1901 a widow and a publican living with is two daughters in The Railway Inn Sadler Street Widnes St Ambrose.

Anyone have photos of this one?

Cheers
Jan :D
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: jangeo on Tuesday 28 February 17 20:05 GMT (UK): Hi
The Crown Inn is still standing,however it has been altered.
If you google Birchfield Road,Widnes you will get a street view.

Regarding an old photo you might strike lucky on google images.

Hope this helps
Geoff W
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: dodger123 on Thursday 13 April 17 05:58 BST (UK): The man and women in the door way was Samuel Thompson and his wife Jane Ann Thompson (nee Penney) who are my 2x Gt Grandparents and took over from Mr Wade as publican in 1901. The girl to the left of Samuel is Jane Nevitt.
Hope that helps anyone :D
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Malcolm Peck on Thursday 13 April 17 08:09 BST (UK): Dear Widnes Pub people!

A complete long shotbut here gies. Does anybody have information on the Peck family that lived in Widnes (at least in 1891)? They moved to Penketh, Warrington and many years later my Mum & Dad ran an off licence in Warrington for 30 years
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 13 April 17 08:21 BST (UK): Quote from: Malcolm Peck on Thursday 13 April 17 08:09 BST (UK)
Dear Widnes Pub people!

A complete long shotbut here gies. Does anybody have information on the Peck family that lived in Widnes (at least in 1891)? They moved to Penketh, Warrington and many years later my Mum & Dad ran an off licence in Warrington for 30 years

are you talking of Walter and May Peck ?...was Walter born in Boxworth,Cambridgeshire
children
Clarice Gertrude b 1906 Warrington - married 1940 to Ernest Lawton
Walter b 1908 Penketh died 1967 Warrington
is this the family ?
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: Malcolm Peck on Thursday 13 April 17 09:32 BST (UK): Those are my family, my dad was Walter b 1906 and Clarice my aunty. What I would love to find out is more about my Peck family when they lived in Widnes
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 13 April 17 10:14 BST (UK): did your dad die oct/nov/dec 1967 in Warrington ? if so the death record shows aged 59 born 1908 or is that the wrong man ??
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 13 April 17 10:21 BST (UK): Name Walter Peck
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Lancashire
Parish Widnes
Ecclesiastical Parish ST LUKES
Registration District Prescot
Residence Note Dickson Streeet
Gender Male
Age 13
Occupation Grocers Assistant
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878
Birthplace Cambridgeshire, England
Page Number 2
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 3014/

this looks like your Walter / granddad ? aged 13 - is it ?? if so you have an address - DICKSON STREET,Widnes
Title: Re: Pubs in Widnes 1871 - Is it still There?
Post by: tony holman on Saturday 27 January 18 15:19 GMT (UK): Quote from: tony holman on Tuesday 28 February 17 17:06 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Jan Ann on Sunday 21 May 06 22:29 BST (UK)
Hi Rose

Thanks anyway - I've now found him in 1901 a widow and a publican living with is two daughters in The Railway Inn Sadler Street Widnes St Ambrose.

Anyone have photos of this one?

Cheers
Jan :D

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