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Title: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 22 May 06 21:38 BST (UK)
Hi All,

Yep it's me agaiin!!  ::)
Aren't you glad I have 50 new photos to sort through!!  :o

I know the lady on the right is my aunt - is the single lady the same person?

Cheers

Keith

P.S. For anyone who "nose" me - they are all Batemans.
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 22 May 06 21:52 BST (UK)
That's a real tricky one Keith. Having seen lots of your Bateman photos (on that website of yours), she does have some family characteristics. She has a similar nose and eyes to the first one and a similar bottom lip but the smile is different and with that hat  ???

I think I'm going to say, probably no but i e3xpect you'll have some yeses  ;)

Gadget
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: PrueM on Monday 22 May 06 21:56 BST (UK)
I reckon they are the same - that second picture looks like it's been distorted longways Keith - did you do some dodgy resizing??!!  ;) ;D

Prue
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 22 May 06 21:59 BST (UK)
I reckon they are the same - that second picture looks like it's been distorted longways Keith - did you do some dodgy resizing??!!  ;) ;D

Prue

Found out again!!
I had 4 goes at trying to get that correct - only been sent 3/4 of the photo - skew whiff - so my best effort doesn't past muster then Prue!!

Will now go back for attempt no 5

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 22 May 06 22:07 BST (UK)
Well if you'd told me that  before hand Bateman >:( >:( >:(

I did think it looked strange but being the polite Welsh/Scots lady that I am didn't like to question either your scanning skills or your relatives. Prue obviously doesn't have my reticence  ;D

Let's have another look with a new scan and give her a temporary crown on that gap in her teeth please.

Gadget
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 22 May 06 22:12 BST (UK)


This is as I received the photo!!

Sorry I have had another go and fattened up her cheeks !!

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 22 May 06 22:22 BST (UK)
I'll put them together for you but I'm still not sure
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 22 May 06 22:49 BST (UK)


I think I am going mad - am I seeing things I want to see??!!

There is a half sister as well could either/both be on this group??!!

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 22 May 06 22:51 BST (UK)
The one in the middle and on the right are the same. Definitely.

Gadget

(and what ya doing nicking my art work  ;D ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Monday 22 May 06 22:56 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
               What was the question again?

Tomkin ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 22 May 06 23:06 BST (UK)

Now come on Tomkin - pay attention!!  ;D  :o

The Question was -  Are these all the Bateman family!!

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Monday 22 May 06 23:20 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
            The first 3 are, the last one could be a strag.
   By the way, see if this site has anything useful for you.
   www.rudolf-noe.de/mouselessbrowsing.htm
Regards as always,
Tomkin  :-\ :-\ ;D

Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Monday 22 May 06 23:25 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
              The link could be case sensitive. I'll imput it again.
www.rudolf-noe.de/MouselessBrowsing.htm
Tomkin
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 22 May 06 23:33 BST (UK)
Tomkin, he's kidding you with the last - he's reversed the other woman in the first photo :o

Gadget
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 22 May 06 23:43 BST (UK)

I did that to make the comparison easier!

The only one I am (nearly) sure of is the first one of the 4 - the others are guesses - perhaps the reversed one if the cause of the murder trial!!

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: PrueM on Tuesday 23 May 06 00:17 BST (UK)
Prue obviously doesn't have my reticence  ;D
Gadget

LOL - nope, typical brash Aussie here - call a spade a bl**dy shovel, me  ;D

I am so confused Keith...now I don't know who's who - I still think the first two you posted are the same lady (even more so now that she's less "stretched")  Third lady a definite maybe  ;D  She looks very similar ...can you give her a wink and make her smile, perhaps?

Prue  :)
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Tuesday 23 May 06 00:18 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
               Ooooohh!  you little tinker.
 What murder trial. Have I missed something. I shall have to stop doing three jobs at the same time.
Tomkin ??? ::) ;D
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 23 May 06 00:37 BST (UK)
Keith

With all your newly acquired photos, why don't you have a 'guess the rellies' section on your website? It would be fun, especially now Prue has slowed down her Photo Dating Challenges  :o :o :o

Gadget
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Tuesday 23 May 06 00:41 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
               Ooooohh!  you little tinker.
 What murder trial. Have I missed something. I shall have to stop doing three jobs at the same time.
Tomkin ??? ::) ;D

Well he did ask - so I will have to mention this page on my website:
http://batemans-history.rootschat.net/shotherlover.htm

The man in photos is DEF. my uncle Jim - so if they are his 2 sisters - one of them is Floss - the one who had a lover!!

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Tuesday 23 May 06 00:45 BST (UK)
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I am so confused Keith...now I don't know who's who

You are Prue - well that makes me feel a bit better - what chance has a poor English Man got!!
I have Oz and (near) Scots ladies helping me sort out my Hertfordshire relatives!!

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: liverpool annie on Tuesday 23 May 06 00:49 BST (UK)


My goodness Mr Bateman - are your family rabbits ??

I looked once - there was 2 - went away came back - there was 3 - went away came back - there was 4 !!  :P

To heck with it - I think the photo is Tomkin's Cousin Hector !!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ( born in Ireland !! )

Annie  :-\
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Tuesday 23 May 06 01:00 BST (UK)

It's always nice to have a level headed comment from you Annie!!  ;D ;D

Now you mention it ........


Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: liverpool annie on Tuesday 23 May 06 01:55 BST (UK)



OK! I'll be serious now .........  ::)

I think 2 and 3 are the same lady !! but they're all related !!

Annie  :) :)
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 23 May 06 09:04 BST (UK)
Think Annie and I are at one Keith - now what piccies have you instore for us today  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 25 May 06 18:08 BST (UK)



OK! I'll be serious now .........  ::)

I think 2 and 3 are the same lady !! but they're all related !!

Annie  :) :)

Hope you are right Annie - if you are then 2/3 is the half sister to the other 2 girls !

Now !!!

Is this a wedding group or just guests - no flowers in button holes etc - but in front of a church AND is the lady 2nd from the right the same as no 4 above!!
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 25 May 06 18:10 BST (UK)


To put them on the same page
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 18:19 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
               You are probably not aware of this, but people go to
church for other reasons than weddings.

Tomkin ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 25 May 06 18:26 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
               You are probably not aware of this, but people go to
church for other reasons than weddings.

Tomkin ::) ::) ;D

Well I have been told that  ;D ;D ;D

But why have your photo taken?  And C1930 when film was expensive!!
And no babies around for a Christening!
So I am now struggling!  ::)

And you have not said if you think they are the same person - or is that just a ladies' thing guessing if they are the same people!!

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Shaztoni on Thursday 25 May 06 18:30 BST (UK)
yep church lady and lady onthe right same people.

Sharon
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Shaztoni on Thursday 25 May 06 18:38 BST (UK)
I've given the third one a smile  ;D

Sharon
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 19:50 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
                I tried to help you before and you threw a murder at me.
Besides who said it's a church. I thought it was the entrance to your Manor
House.
Tomkin :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 25 May 06 21:08 BST (UK)


Would I lie to you!!  ;D ;D

THIS IS A WEDDING  taken at the same place - with the rest of the Batemans in attendence!!


It looks like a wedding - but the other one only could be!?

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 22:10 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
              They could all be standing outside your front door for
all I know,
Tomkin ;) ;D
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Shaztoni on Thursday 25 May 06 22:12 BST (UK)
In my best bar tenders voice "Take it outside boys"  ;D

Sharon
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
               Is the clue that the pictures file name is "wedding-Guests"
or is that a red herring?
Tomkin ::) :D ;D ( I still think it's outside Batesman Towers )
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 22:25 BST (UK)
Hi Sharon,
                  Mine is a pint and Keith will have a large
Highland Park,

Tomkin
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 25 May 06 22:31 BST (UK)
No I put that on so I would remember which one to put on RC!! ;D ;D

The thing is my new 1st cousin sent me the photo as "unknown" - so it must be a relative of either his side or mine!!

I wondered if they were just posing after someone else's wedding or what?
As you say it could be for anything but...........

Come on Ladies help these 2 poor men who are now struggling with this  ::) ::)

Cheers

Keith

P.S. Thanks Sharon for putting a smile on her - that was one reason I wondered if she was a Bateman - it's the only one of a Bateman without a smile!! (except for the wedding ones - that must prove something!!)
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 May 06 22:40 BST (UK)
Keith

What's the question  ???

Gadget
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 May 06 22:44 BST (UK)

Now !!!

Is this a wedding group or just guests - no flowers in button holes etc - but in front of a church AND is the lady 2nd from the right the same as no 4 above!!

Now I've found the question  -embedded in all sorts of stuff  ??? The 2nd lady looks quite like no 4.

The two in the middle are holding hands - it could be a wedding or could they have gone out to some posh place - not sure about Nat Trust places and the like in those days. Otherwise, they're minor gusts at a wedding - only the close family had sprays/lapel buttonholes.

Gadget
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 25 May 06 22:47 BST (UK)
Got back to the middle of the last page !

Quote
Is this a wedding group or just guests - no flowers in button holes etc - but in front of a church AND is the lady 2nd from the right the same as no 4 above!!

It's Tomkin trying to get at me  :( :(

Just because he wouldn't go to my website to read about the murder trial! :o

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 May 06 22:50 BST (UK)
Think I answered it above Keith  ;D Why won't Tomkin go to your website- i have to go at least once a day  ;D

Gadget
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 23:14 BST (UK)
Hi Gadget,
                   It's on my list of priorities, but I'm sinking
at the moment. ( did you notice that I bought him a drink
but he has not reciprocated?)
'Nuff said,
Tomkin
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 25 May 06 23:23 BST (UK)
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did you notice that I bought him a drink but he has not reciprocated?

But Sharon has just sent me the bill!!  :o

Keith
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 May 06 23:28 BST (UK)
Come on folks, get back to the topic - this is not the ELS ya know ::)

Keith, I answered you're question. Now what's the next one  :P

(Tomkin, you should know better than to buy Keith a drink when he's working  ;D )
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 23:45 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
              On the wedding photo there is a lady who is "Cut off".Out of interest
is it possible to reinstate her?
Tomkin
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: tomkin on Thursday 25 May 06 23:53 BST (UK)
Hi Keith,
                The first and second (lady wearing the girl guide type hat)
are of the same person. The 3rd lady is a different person as is no.4.
My initial guess was that 1/2 & 3 are closely related but no.4 is a stragg.

Now I'll look at your other posers.
Tomkin
Title: Re: Are these 2 the same person?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Friday 26 May 06 00:02 BST (UK)


The full photo of the wedding includes the Jim's wife's relations - which I know even less about!!

Cheers

Keith