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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: allycat on Saturday 27 May 06 07:11 BST (UK)
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Dear Rootschatters, Hi.
Below is a snapshot of just some of the surnames that I am researching in New Zealand:-
BOOTH
COULTER ...Lanarkshire/lasgow Scotland -->1850
DENLY
DONAHUE/DONAHOE/DONOHUE ... from Co.Antrim 1830
EADIE... ex Plean,Forgandenny,Dunblain,Newhaven Scotland 1800s
EDGECOMBE {arrived via ship "William Bryan" in 1839}
FLEMING
FREETH
HARDING
HARRIS {arrived Wellington via ship "Slaines Castle" in 1840}
HART
HILL
HOMEWOOD ... family tree goes back to 1733 Horne Surrey England.
HUGHES ... NZ ... then back to 1831 Kent England
IMPEY
KINSEY & GARRARD ... Sir Joseph James Kinsey Knight 1852-1936
LOWE
LYONS
MacDOUGAL
MARRINER
McCABE
McKAY
MILLS
OLIVER
PENDER
PETERS
RESNICK ... Russian origins.
RUDD
RUPELL
RUSSELL
SCOWN ... originally 'Scawen'... family carefully documented to 16th Century.
SELMAN
SKINNER
SPARKS
TAMS
TREMAIN
TWAITES
WILCOCKS
Allycat, Queensland, Australia.
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Hi Ally,
Your McCabe where from in Australia please I have then too in my Tree. That a new side I am doing.
an this one too DONAHUE.
OzyBob.
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Hi there Bob. Sorry, I don't have any McCABE ancestors/descendants in Australia. Well, not yet anyhow.
And I'm researching the DONAHUE/DONAHOE/DONOHUE all spelling variations in New Zealand only. Top of Donohue tree is Hugh Donohue who was a free settler in 1893.
Allycat.
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What do you mean by "first families" in NZ??
We dont have such things.
There was no ONE place where everyone landed like Sydney.
People arrived in NZ at various locations so each place has its own "first families".
Waitangi was 1840. Dunedin was 1848.
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What do you mean by "first families" in NZ??
We dont have such things.
There was no ONE place where everyone landed like Sydney.
People arrived in NZ at various locations so each place has its own "first families".
Waitangi was 1840. Dunedin was 1848.
Hey there BurrowDigger, ooops forgive me I'm an Aussie. Shall edit now. Al.
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Hi Burrow Digger
The unfortunate thing is that the NZSoG encourages people to enter their families as "First Families" as seen on their CD. Someone has entered my family, often incorrectly, and they didn't leave England until 1878!
Cheers
Marlene
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I'm not a member of the NZ SOG - never have been.
Since my family did not arrive in Dunedin until the 1860's, and not on the Ship Philipp Laing (I think thats the right name) with William Cargill (who founded Invercargil) in 1848, I know my family is not a "first family."
I've never heard of anyone being from a "first family" It is very misleading.
I think its wrong. Those families were no better or worse than the families that arrived after them, IMO. I do not approve of this "eliteism".
I shant be joining the SOG. I'm perfectly capable of finding my family for myself. And I've done very well so far - as per my website. :)
BD
The first settlers, who arrived in 1848 after a cramped and tortuous passage aboard the John Wickliffe and the Philip Laing, were members of the newly formed Free Church of Scotland which was established after the great split with the Presbyterian Church. They came seeking freedom of worship in a land untouched by religious strife. They were led by two dynamic individuals, the Reverend Thomas Burns, a nephew of the poet, Robert Burns, and William Cargill, of the 74th Highlanders.
http://www.electricscotland.com/newzealand/dunedin.htm
Cool, I still remember my history lessons. :)
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Hi Burrow Digger
The unfortunate thing is that the NZSoG encourages people to enter their families as "First Families" as seen on their CD. Someone has entered my family, often incorrectly, and they didn't leave England until 1878!
Cheers
Marlene
Maybe I better get my father to buy their CD so I can check for errors as well. :(
BD
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Hi there BD and Dale. I was getting a bit excited thinking someone had replied to my original 'Surname Interests in NZ'. Oh well.
But after reading your posted messages, I'm sure the original inhabitants of the Land of the Long White Cloud would have been slightly insulted to learn of the mention of 'first families' on a CD Rom in a future time. But we all know what everyone means by this generally. That's where I got the phrase from, a little database. I think from memory my two CD's cost me approx $60, after I became a member!
And like with all genealogical information, it is very time-consuming gathering all of the data and we all appreciate it when and if any errors are found and they can be corrected.
Plus I have quite a few 'first families' ancestors in the State of Victoria, Australia, in the pandora archives. It's just a phrase. ;)
Cheers guys, Allycat.
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Kia Ora Alley Cat
Well hate to admit it but my CD fell off the back of waka.... in Melbourne!
I've now looked more closely at your list and the Scown family married into mine in Taranaki they are/were a well known farming family.
What dates were looking at? I haven't recorded their history but could possibly give you a few leads if you want!
Cheers
Marlene
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G'day Marlene, since my posted message I found out that there is a book in the pipeline being written on the Scown family as we speak. Link to huge website below:-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scownancestry/sca.html
I was surfing the web one day with the express intention of finding out about the Scown family after my mother-in-law handed me all her family tree paperwork. {This was after she found out how much of an internet fiend I am and how good I am at doing the family tree.} ;D Nevertheless, I found this website, and I thought what are the chances of this enormous family tree having links with my MIL? Yep, it's got her ggg grandparents in there etc. Couldn't believe it. And all the Scowns all over the place are pretty excited about having more additions to the book. And all the descendants here in Aussieland are going to be in the book too. Phew. And they nearly missed out by a hair's breadth.
Have a look at the site, perhaps your lot are in there too. Please let me know how you get on. TT4N Ally.
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Gidday
Mine are too recent! Father was All Black his daughter an Olympic Gold Medallist!
Both still very much alive and I don't know the names further back. That's why I offered to scout around for you!
The mother of the medallist was my mother's first cousin so we share the "First Family"!!
What a boon that must be for you. I always get depressed as one finds so many errors usually. My research is not going anywhere until I am ready to publish in hard copy!
Good luck
Marlene
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Hey there Marlene, Oh well, better luck next time. But it sounds like the living relations are much more exciting in your case.
Thank you for the offer of help, I do appreciate it.
I would have been very excited about the Scowns if they were my ancestors, but they're my mother-in-law's ... and my NZ hubby was adopted at birth.
I can't see why you don't know any more names further back. You should, and it's not that hard. I've gone back to 1700s on most lines and 1600 on one, and 1480 on our best one. All carefully documented with sources etc.
Have you tried http://www.familytreecircles.com/ ? And when doing genealogy, one is never finished! ;)
Ally.
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Any relation to Joseph LOWE b Blythe Bridge, Stafford England
abt 1845, wife Rachel
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Dear Telephonist, Hi. It's hard to say re LOWE connection to the ones you speak of as have only gotten the LOWE line back to 1883 Daisy Blossom LOWE, her parents names unknown. She married 1899 Llewellyn Joseph MILLS NZ and had 6 children.
Allycat.
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Hi alleycat,
In answer to surnnames of interest in N.Z. We have a Tremain family in Hawkes Bay. The late father of the person I Know was Kelvin Tremain an All Black in 70s/80s.
The person I know is Chris. Tremain who is at present our National Party rep. for Napier. He is a young man of about 37. I think they came to H.Bay from the Auckland area.
Regards, Kiwicousey.
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Dear Kiwicousey, Hi there. I checked my PAF (Personal Ancestral File) and it looks like two TREMAIN siblings married two HILL siblings and.or relations.
Claude Albert HILL died 1945, married 1915 to Blanche Murtagh TREMAIN died 1937 or 1953.
Hazel Gertrude HILL born 1891, married 1920 to Norman Londale (Landale) sic TREMAIN.
My connection is Martha Emma HILL d.1926 (spouse's great grandmother) who married 1909 John William HOMEWOOD d.1969.
Allycat.
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I am looking for Adam Mckenzie (Mackenzie ) who sailed to New Zealand in 1877with his wife Isabella
I cannot find the death of Adam as I know Isabella came back to England about 1888 to 1893 .
They sailed on the Canterbury from Glasgow in the September and arrived at Port Chalmers in the December
All their children were born in Mornington Dunedin
Where are you Adam Mckenzie
Elizabeth
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Hi..
I note you have the surname Skinner. (Scotland) Any connection to Patricia Skinner from Fairlie, South Island who married Jeremiah William Angland from Albury, family originally emigrated from Ireland.
They lived their married life in Timaru, South Canterbury.
Thanks,
Tiffaney
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Dear Tiffaney, Ok on the SKINNERs I have:-
Henry George SKINNER born abt 1871 Mangamahu, New Zealand
married Esther Jane SCOWN in 1892 at Wanganui. Don't know much more about this SKINNER at the time of writing, but have SCOWN line going waaaayyyyyy back. More information will be on the scown website that I posted in reply on 19th June, just go back a few posted messages on this thread.
But there is lots of SKINNER information if you become a member of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists and obtain their NZSG Index.
Also, please join me at this FREE website http://www.familytreecircles.com/ there are 6 genealogists researching the SKINNER surname.
Al.
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Hi Al, Thanks for your informative reply re your Skinners. Belong to Mid-Canty NZSG but didn't know about list I could acquire & will now have a look at familytree circles site.
Thanks,
Tiffaney
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I am related to Elizabeth Hart, from Dunedin. She originally came from Lancashire having married for the second time to Charles Hart. She came to Dunedin shortly after her daughter arrived here which is where she died. Her maiden name was Pilkington.
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Dear Ferg, Hi there. A warm welcome to Rootschat.
The only HART I have in my records (at present) is that a male HART (living) married into the HOMEWOOD family.
Can send you more information via 'personal message' system regarding HARTs in general.
Al.