RootsChat.Com

Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: stlegermay on Thursday 21 October 04 20:46 BST (UK)

Title: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Thursday 21 October 04 20:46 BST (UK)
I am researing the name St. Leger from Doneraile (co. Cork) and from the rest of Ireland, too.

Have been reseaching this name for the past 25 years plus so have accummulated a LARGE database of St. Legers.

Would welcome hearing from anyone else who is researching their St. Leger roots.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Welsh Jen on Thursday 21 October 04 21:37 BST (UK)
Hey any links with Amanda Redman!
She has links with Ireland and St Leger / St Ledger's I think in the Waterford region

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Thursday 21 October 04 22:40 BST (UK)
Unfortunately, no links with Amanda Redman - but she has certainly raised the profile of the name.

The surname St. Leger is a lot more common than some people think!

Rose
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Welsh Jen on Friday 22 October 04 10:23 BST (UK)
In Wales there was a St Ledger-Grenfell I wonder if the Cornwall / Welsh Grenfell's have links to the St Ledger name?

Elizabeth ST LEDGER died on 22 May 1685 (23) Parents: Aldworth ST LEGER and Mary BARRY. She was married to Pascoe GRENFELL MP on 15 Jan 1798

Jen
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Friday 22 October 04 10:50 BST (UK)
Hi Jen,

thank you for the information on Grenfell/St. Leger.

Believe it or not the Grenfells are directly descended from the same Pembrokeshire family as I am.  The St. Legers are my husbands family and this is one instances of where our two families converge.  It also happens way back in medieval times, too. 

The longer is study genealogy I am begining to believe that we are all related to one another!

Rose
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Welsh Jen on Friday 22 October 04 11:07 BST (UK)
Well you may be related to me (although very distantly)!,
I have Swansea Glamorgan Grenfell's in my family

My Great Grandfather Campbell Charles Taylor had a sister Alice Taylor she married an Ernest Grenfell, this Grenfell line were poorer but are related to the very powerful Swansea Grenfell's (Pascoe Grenfell etc) but this link is further back in Cornwall. If you are interested I can give you more information

Regards Jen  :D
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Monday 25 October 04 10:52 BST (UK)
Hi Jen,

I'm afriad my connections with the Grenfell family is very loose.

Riversdale William Grenfell  (son of Pascoe Grenfell and Georgiana St. Leger) married Charlotte Adelaide Elliot.  Charlotte Elliot was the grandchild of my 5 x g grandmother's brother, Dr. George Elliot of Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire. 

Rose
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Welsh Jen on Monday 25 October 04 11:12 BST (UK)
Ok not a problem. Even so it may be worth you taking a peek at this excellent Grenfell site:

http://grenfell.history.users.btopenworld.com/index.htm

Take care
Jen  :D
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Tuesday 26 October 04 13:34 BST (UK)
Thanks for the Grenfell website addess.  Most interesting site. 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: franklin on Wednesday 10 November 04 19:05 GMT (UK)
I have St. leger as my middle name. My family adopted the idea of continuing the St.Leger name after the end of the line on one of the many fragmented family trees. It is now custom for the first son of each new generation to be called St.Leger. However, this only goes back two generations and I'm keen to find out more........

James St.Leger Franklin.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: goggy on Tuesday 03 January 06 14:47 GMT (UK)
stlegermay,youre right about relation's.Pembokeshire,Haverford West in particular,Prendergast,s,related to everyone else,even if only periphally.!!This page look's like a round up of all of them!
           Love it!Goggy. ;)
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Sabretoothtiger on Wednesday 01 March 06 12:23 GMT (UK)
I also have St Leger ancestors -  I am descended from Sir William's daughter Elizabeth who married Murchadh O'Brien, Earl of Inchiquin.  I wondered if you had any information about Sir William's wife Gertrude de Vries or his mother Elizabeth Roth.

Best wishes

Anoushka
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Sio on Saturday 11 March 06 20:43 GMT (UK)
There's a treasure and murder story about St Legers in Cork  - may be of interest/relevance.

http://www.ballyvolanehouse.ie/legend_popup.htm
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: liverpool annie on Wednesday 10 May 06 14:50 BST (UK)


Isn't there a horse race called the St Leger ??  ::)

Is that a connection too ??

Annie  :)
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: goggy on Wednesday 10 May 06 15:01 BST (UK)
There sure is Annie!
You picked a n'orse ?
By the way,the St Leger family are still waiting for the real Lord Doneraile to stand up!
                    Goggy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: liverpool annie on Wednesday 10 May 06 15:10 BST (UK)


Well here's my favourite !!  ;) ;)

http://homepages.iol.ie/~nodonnel/churchoi.html

Annie  :)
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: goggy on Friday 12 May 06 11:21 BST (UK)
On the ball Girl!
Did you read of the curse of Doneraile?Good one I thought.How come the name of the winning horse wasn't mentioned?
If you stick with one of Prendy's horses you will at least get your money back.Just tell them I sent you!!

Stay loose 'R' Kid. Goggy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 27 November 07 12:25 GMT (UK)
I am researing the name St. Leger from Doneraile (co. Cork) and from the rest of Ireland, too.

Have been reseaching this name for the past 25 years plus so have accummulated a LARGE database of St. Legers.

Would welcome hearing from anyone else who is researching their St. Leger roots.

Hi stlegermay,

Have a look at buttonmoon's  Surname interests  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,143585.0.html) on the Wicklow board.

The 1796 Spinning Wheel Census (Flax Growers List) on Joh Hayes failteromhat.com site lists one St Leger ...

John St. Leger, Quin, Clare

There's a lengthy list of them on Griffiths Valuation extracts 1848-64 which are on the same website.

 The Hon. Miss Elizabeth St. Leger,  (http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/aldworth.html) afterwards the wife of Richard Aldworth, Esq., appears to have been initiated as a Freemason at Doneraile Court sometime between 1710 and 1718. .

Christopher
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: wkargel on Tuesday 11 May 10 19:03 BST (UK)
I am researing the name St. Leger from Doneraile (co. Cork) and from the rest of Ireland, too.

Have been reseaching this name for the past 25 years plus so have accummulated a LARGE database of St. Legers.

Would welcome hearing from anyone else who is researching their St. Leger roots.

Hello,

I am a descendant of the St. Leger family, but I really have no idea which branch, though.  My maternal grandmother's father (my great-grandfather) was Joseph Thomas St. Leger, and he lived in the area of Baltimore, MD in the USA his entire life.  He in fact spent most of his working years working as an accountant with the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad.  At this time, I have no information about his parents, etc. 

My late great aunt (older sister of my grandmother) had in fact gone to Ireland before and had met St. Legers there...she brought back a piece of stone that was apparently part of a "castle" in Ireland the St. Legers owned.  She was the type to blow things out of proportion, so while I was a boy and I thought it was a fascinating story, I was more skeptical as an adult...until I stumbled upon the St. Leger history of the Viscounts Doneraile.  So, while the piece of stone may have been part of a structure at Doneraile (I understand the manor house has been at least partially restored), that doesn't mean I am descended from them.  In fact, it appears that the bloodline died out, and that the title Viscount Doneraile is vacant.  So I am reasonably certain that I am not of that line at all.  But what line am I descended from?   ???

It appears that both sides of my mother's family came to Maryland from Ireland BEFORE the great potato famine in Ireland, so they have been in the USA for quite a long time.

Any insight anyone can provide would be most helpful.  I look forward to any further discussions on this family!

Cheers,

Bill Kargel

Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: celtic liberty on Wednesday 12 May 10 00:14 BST (UK)
Hi St Leger May,

I have some St. Leger headstone photos which might be of interest to you. 

Some from Doneraile and some of Aldworth St Leger buried in Cobh (formerly Queenstown) related to the Newmarket St Legers.

Send me your email address by PM If you are interested

Mary
Celtic Liberty
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: 777 on Monday 17 May 10 10:46 BST (UK)
Another area of the world where the name St Leger pop's up. Near by is also a Doneraile Park.

http://www.stleger.co.nz/
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: msfitz on Tuesday 25 January 11 21:37 GMT (UK)
I am interested in the St. Leger family of Doneraille and am a distant relative of Ursula St. Leger via her marriage to Bernard Fitz-Patrick, 2nd Lord Castletowne.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: msfitz on Tuesday 25 January 11 21:52 GMT (UK)
There sure is Annie!
You picked a n'orse ?
By the way,the St Leger family are still waiting for the real Lord Doneraile to stand up!
                    Goggy. ;) ;D

Viscounts Doneraile, First Creation (1703)

    * Arthur St Leger, 1st Viscount Doneraile (d. 1727)
    * Arthur St Leger, 2nd Viscount Doneraile (1694–1734)
    * Arthur Mohun St Leger, 3rd Viscount Doneraile (1718–1750)
    * Hayes St Leger, 4th Viscount Doneraile (1702–1767)

[edit] Viscounts Doneraile, Second Creation (1785)

    * St Leger St Leger, 1st Viscount Doneraile (d. 1787)
    * Hayes St Leger, 2nd Viscount Doneraile (1755–1819)
    * Hayes St Leger, 3rd Viscount Doneraile (1786–1854)
    * Hayes St Leger, 4th Viscount Doneraile (1818–1887)
    * Richard Arthur St Leger, 5th Viscount Doneraile (1825–1891)
    * Edward St Leger, 6th Viscount Doneraile (1866–1941)
    * Hugh St Leger, 7th Viscount Doneraile (1869–1956)
    * Algernon Edward St Leger, 8th Viscount Doneraile (1878–1957)
    * Richard St John St Leger, 9th Viscount Doneraile (1923–1983)
    * Richard Allen St Leger, 10th Viscount Doneraile (b. 1946)

The heir apparent is the present holder's son Hon. Nathaniel Warham Robert St John St Leger (b. 1971)
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: celtic liberty on Tuesday 25 January 11 23:01 GMT (UK)
to Ms Fitz,

I have sent you some photos of St Leger headstones and Doneraile cemetery

Mary
Celtic Liberty
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: msfitz on Tuesday 25 January 11 23:13 GMT (UK)
Mary
Thank you for your quick response and generous nature.
[F]
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 26 January 11 16:20 GMT (UK)
Amanda Redman on "Who Do You Think You Are?" investigating her St Leger ancestors in Ireland:-

http://www.youtube.com/user/Acramveh?feature=mhsn#p/c/EF346E6378CAA2E2/0/LsGKeRy7I2E


C
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: kiwipup on Thursday 24 February 11 12:36 GMT (UK)
I have been trying to trace by mother's family back as she told me they were descendants of the St Legers from Doncaster.  She said that her great grandfather was a St Leger but was disowned by the family when he ran off with the sewing maid!  Interestingly I have managed to trace her grandmother who is Catherine Leger and her father is William but I am unable to find anything about him anywhere - neither birth, marriage, death - which is odd and might back up the fact that his family disowned him. 

Does your research include any family from the Yorkshire area please?
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: msfitz on Thursday 24 February 11 15:12 GMT (UK)
Has anyone checked thee Church for records? Destroyed records are the bane of my wall between the UK and Canada - Can we know more about the story?
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: kiwipup on Thursday 24 February 11 15:30 GMT (UK)
It's hard to check church records when I can't find out exactly which area they were in.  I have managed to get a birth certificate for my great grandmother Catherine Ledger (note sometimes names spelled Ledger and sometimes Leger) which shows her parents as William Ledger (Leger) and Sarah Walker.  I have worked out that William must have been born sometime in the early 1800s i.e probably before 1810.  The fact that there is no further trace of him leads me to believe he may have been the son who was cut off from the family.  My mother recalls seeing a family bible when she was young and it had an impressive family tree in the front but her father didn't like the subject being discussed (jealousy I suspect!) and tore it up!!

It was normal in those days for any children who disobeyed to be disinherited and if the family were powerful they could probably organise destruction of all records.  I therefore wondered if anyone working on St Legers before 1800 could perhaps have worked back in my direction! ???
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Karennicole on Tuesday 08 March 11 11:05 GMT (UK)
I am also researching the St leger's and would like to know more about a John who worked at Princetown jail in Devon and later became the publican of the Plume of Feathers - I understand we descend from Donneraile but there are many missing links - help!
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: magirl45 on Saturday 09 July 11 09:29 BST (UK)
Hi there wondering if you could shed any light on the St Leger's that I am related to - there are so many variations on the spelling of Leger, Ledger adding the St or deleting it! 
My great grandmother's mother was Elizabeth St Leger and she married Bartholomew Egan in Australia.  Her father, was John James St Leger born in Ireland, 1818 and he died in 1854 in Australia - word has it by drowning.  His father, was John St Leger born in Ireland in 1780.  He married Ann Sheercroft and passed in 1850.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: kiwipup on Tuesday 12 July 11 09:36 BST (UK)
Sorry don't think I can help.  There are a lot of St Legers (St Ledgers) in Ireland but I haven't yet found a connection to my branch which is from Yorkshire.  Interestingly though there is the St Leger horserace in Doncaster which suggests they were horsey people and, of course, Ireland is notorious for its horses so perhaps if I get back far enough there will be a connection!  Good luck with your search
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Bradders66 on Tuesday 16 August 11 22:01 BST (UK)
Hi
I have lots of info on John leger who worked at princetown prince and owned the plume of feathers.
I know he came from borrisokane Ireland. With hs wife and young son Edward .
His brother Edward had already gone to Australia and I have been in touch with his decendants.
I believe he had a sister Catherine who went to Canada but this is unconfirmed.
I know his father was also John.
I have yet o prove the connection with the donaraile St.ledgers
It's taken me nearly 10 years to gather the info but I have more on John if you are interested.
How are you connected with John?
My husband decends from his second son William .
Regards
Karen
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Karennicole on Tuesday 16 August 11 22:55 BST (UK)
Hi and thank you for your message.  I would be really interested in hearing more.  My maternal family are St Leger's and I will forward you the exact connection with `john once I have spoken to my mother - or I am bound to get it wrong!  I think the connection is through my great grandmother who was Rose St Leger and one of several children (most of them girls).  She married into the Trice family.  I have some photographs and a family bible with all the names and dates of birth.  I have a William Ledger married to Annie Moss in my tree - does this ring any bells?
I look forward to chatting to you more.
Regards
Karen
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Bradders66 on Wednesday 17 August 11 06:52 BST (UK)
Hi Karen

Yes that's the William in my tree. But I don't have a Rose.
I have never found decedents for  Johns other children Alfred and Amelia.

I have a copy of Johns Will plus a book about the murder trial in Ireland when he was accused  of the murder of 4 catholic men during a funeral!
I recently when to the prison museum at princetown but the records for Johns time there when it was closed as a prison where destroyed in a fire .
I then found the church where he is buried with his first wife and eldest daughter. No headstone but the church did have the records typed up and available to view.
Then I had a drink in the Plume of Feathers where he actually lived and died .

I also have a transcript from a tenant at the prison when John was the caretaker
,she describes him as a hard brutal man.

I'm still working on getting his military records.
My main research now is trying to get back to the next generation . His father
John Leger is described as a 'gentleman' on Johns second marriage cert.
I think, but yet to prove that our John Leger  desends  the Donaraile
St.Ledgers but probably being the youngest son from each descendant there was no money or title to be had.

It's also quite interesting that the ' St' is only added around 1900. And that is the same for Williams brother Edward who went to Australia as well. Which makes me think they stayed in touch .

I'd love to know more about the bible and the photos you have.
Kind regards
Karen

Ps my tree is available for public viewing on ancestry.com. Just search either John Leger or William Ledger


Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: kiwipup on Wednesday 17 August 11 07:32 BST (UK)
Sorry but I can't help.  So far my St Legers are all in Doncaster and I haven't found a connection with Ireland as yet although I suspect it may be there given the St Leger horse race in Doncaster and the fact that Ireland is famous for its horse breeding!
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Karennicole on Wednesday 17 August 11 08:11 BST (UK)
Hello
Off to work in a minute but will have time this evening to reply properly to your e-mail - How exciting!
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Quinfan1992 on Sunday 11 August 13 18:09 BST (UK)
Hi I wonder if any one could help my mum side of the family are descendants of sir Antony st ledger and was do some research on it but there is also many different st ledgers around and was wondering if anyone could help me narrowing it down
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: rac53 on Tuesday 27 August 13 06:41 BST (UK)
I am new to this site and found your entries about St Leger - My family uncertainly links with the St Leger family through Heyward St Leger b. abt 1642 through his marriage with Barbara (surname unknown) but I have not been able to establish if the subsequent link to the Gilman family is genuine. Would you happen to have any information about that? 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: bales1 on Friday 06 September 13 00:24 BST (UK)
I am researing the name St. Leger from Doneraile (co. Cork) and from the rest of Ireland, too.

Have been reseaching this name for the past 25 years plus so have accummulated a LARGE database of St. Legers.

Would welcome hearing from anyone else who is researching their St. Leger roots.

stlegermay,

I'm currently researching a Mary (or Marie) St. Leger who married an O'Connell (first name unknown). Would you have any information/knowledge about this?

Cheers,
Bales1
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: terry morris on Saturday 02 November 13 06:17 GMT (UK)
There sure is Annie!
You picked a n'orse ?
By the way,the St Leger family are still waiting for the real Lord Doneraile to stand up!
                    Goggy. ;) ;D

Viscounts Doneraile, First Creation (1703)

    * Arthur St Leger, 1st Viscount Doneraile (d. 1727)
    * Arthur St Leger, 2nd Viscount Doneraile (1694–1734)
    * Arthur Mohun St Leger, 3rd Viscount Doneraile (1718–1750)
    * Hayes St Leger, 4th Viscount Doneraile (1702–1767)

[edit] Viscounts Doneraile, Second Creation (1785)

    * St Leger St Leger, 1st Viscount Doneraile (d. 1787)
    * Hayes St Leger, 2nd Viscount Doneraile (1755–1819)
    * Hayes St Leger, 3rd Viscount Doneraile (1786–1854)
    * Hayes St Leger, 4th Viscount Doneraile (1818–1887)
    * Richard Arthur St Leger, 5th Viscount Doneraile (1825–1891)
    * Edward St Leger, 6th Viscount Doneraile (1866–1941)
    * Hugh St Leger, 7th Viscount Doneraile (1869–1956)
    * Algernon Edward St Leger, 8th Viscount Doneraile (1878–1957)
    * Richard St John St Leger, 9th Viscount Doneraile (1923–1983)
    * Richard Allen St Leger, 10th Viscount Doneraile (b. 1946)

The heir apparent is the present holder's son Hon. Nathaniel Warham Robert St John St Leger (b. 1971)

G'day.  I'm terry from Geelong, Australia.  One of the Aldworth's ended up in Koroit Aus.  And married a Crowe, My step uncles grandfather.  Nothing written down - Isn't that always the way.
If you can help me find anything, I'd be over the moon.  Just on a different level.  Elizabeth St Ledger Alworth's portrait I think is in the National Irish Mesuem.  Copys have been made and distorted to make her more manly.  And surrounds her with masonery junk that isn't in the original. I have several copy's if you want them. 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Marybeth McLaughlin on Friday 22 November 13 15:41 GMT (UK)
I would also love to learn more about my St Leger roots, although I don't think they are as august as most of ya'lls! 

My great-grandmother, Margaret St Leger was from O'Callaghan Mills, County Clare.  Her parents were Bartholomew St Leger and Bridget Halloran. Bartholomew's parents were James St Leger and Nancy Ryan, and that's as far back as I've been able to definitely confirm. 

I know nothing about where the St Legers of County Clare originally came from. My 3rd cousin, who is a St Leger and still lives in O'Callaghan Mills, says she's heard a vague family story about being related to a Richard St Leger who came from England during the Cromwell invasion of Ireland.  As in any family lore, how much is truth is up for debate. 

Anyone have any clues?  Thanks so much!
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: terry morris on Sunday 24 November 13 02:56 GMT (UK)
One of the St Ledger Aldworth family the Aldworth part ended in Koroit, Vic, and married a Crowe around early this century, I know all about the Freemasons after researching them.  One of the Aldworth's dropped off the map, and we can't join them from or to Koroit near Towerhill Warrnambool.  Believe it or not, Koroit is Aboriginal not Irish.  How he came to be there? there's no record of an Aldworth anywhere near except, in Bendigo, and Sydney, part owner of the SMHerald.  It's a long shot considering were I've been, but you may be able to help
   yours: Terry Morris
P.S   I added a copy of the original Elizabeth St Ledger Aldworth.  The masons, to name a few are using an awful Photoshopped Image, man like, and added mason junk all over them, this is from the original, 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: rob horwood on Monday 05 October 15 09:02 BST (UK)
Hi Terry,
I am a relation of one of William Crowe of Koroit, Victoria and have just returned from visiting Doneraile Court, home of the St Legers and Newmarket Court, home of the Aldworths in Cork, Ireland. It was fascinating to learn about our ancestors.  I also visited some monuments to the family in St Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin.
I would be happy to share information with you.
Regards
Rob
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Gearoid60 on Monday 20 November 17 12:15 GMT (UK)
Trying to find an Allen/St. ledger connection between 1750 - 1850.
I'm trying to see if there was a connection between these 2 families.
I'm working on notes left by my late father.
I've not had much luck in finding Johns ancestors or where he finished up in the States.
I know his father, a John Allen and his mother Margaret Cotter-Bennett of Rockhill estate in Charleville, Co. Cork.

Below a section of my fathers notes:
"As a teenager, John Allen was sent to Lord Doneraile’s stables at Doneraile Co Cork, to train as a Jockey. The Donerailes, whose family name was St Ledger, were related to him through his ancestors, the Allen’s of Patrickswell. Perhaps it should be mentioned in passing that John Allen’s grandaunt, Agnes Allen of Patrickswell, was, at this time of which we are speaking, the wife of   The McCarthy-Murrough. She had a sister called Elizabeth Allen, Hence the names Agnes and Elizabeth in our Aherne family.John Allen immigrated to America as a young man. He became attached to the Payne- Whitney stables, in Carolina. As a Jockey, he was quiet famous on the American scene Our Mother, his sister, used to speak much of his attainments, saying that he rode the winner of one of the American Classics (Kentucky Derby, perhaps).At a later stage in his career, he was manager- trainer for the Payne-Whitney stables. Later he became a trainer and owner in his own right. He trained and owned several well- known horses".

I would appreciate any information or help.
Thank you.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Monday 20 November 17 12:39 GMT (UK)
Pedigree of St. Leger, Viscounts Doneraile, c.1750 -- 1819.
Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.171, pp.523-4
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Monday 20 November 17 12:57 GMT (UK)
Pedigrees of the St. Leger families, 12th - 19th c., compiled by the Rev. Edward Frederick St. Leger, 1 vol., 1867, also newscuttings relating to this volume compiled by the Rev. St. Leger and by his son, Edward Viscount Doneraile, 19th c.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 21,850
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Monday 20 November 17 12:59 GMT (UK)
Pedigrees of St. Leger and Aldworth families prepared by Edward, 6th Viscount Doneraile, also notes by him on several other families, late 19th-early 20th c.
Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 21,717
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Monday 20 November 17 13:01 GMT (UK)
Pedigree of the family of Aldworth of Newmarket, a branch of the family of Aldworth of Stanlake, 17th - 19th c., compiled by Edward Viscount Doneraile, 19th c.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 21,851
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Monday 20 November 17 13:02 GMT (UK)

St. Leger Family: Tabular pedigree of the second or St. Leger branch of the Irish family of Aldworth of Newmarket (Co. Cork), showing all the descendants of St. Leger, 1st Viscount Doneraile in 1755. 19th c. 

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, n.4584, p.4550
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Dyingout on Monday 20 November 17 13:28 GMT (UK)
The St Leger was devised by Anthony St Leger, an army officer and politician who lived near Doncaster. It was initially referred to as "A Sweepstake of 25 Guineas".
The inaugural running was held at Cantley Common on 24 September 1776.
The title St Leger Stakes was decided at a dinner party held in 1776 at The Red Lion Inn located in the Market Place, Doncaster to discuss the following year's race. It was suggested that it should be called the Rockingham Stakes in honour of the host, the Marquess of Rockingham, but the Marquess proposed that it should be named instead after Anthony St Leger.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: SidSilverSurfer on Thursday 07 December 17 17:12 GMT (UK)
I am researing the name St. Leger from Doneraile (co. Cork) and from the rest of Ireland, too.

Have been reseaching this name for the past 25 years plus so have accummulated a LARGE database of St. Legers.

Would welcome hearing from anyone else who is researching their St. Leger roots.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: SidSilverSurfer on Thursday 07 December 17 17:15 GMT (UK)
Am trying to find out about  Honora St. Ledger who may have been born in 1857 at Headford, Galway.  Do you happen to have any record of this lady who ends up, I believe, as Honora Collins.

Family rumour is that she fell on hard times and the family did not want to know but we all realise that this could be complete bunkem !!!
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Huntka8 on Friday 04 May 18 01:21 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am researching John and Catharine St. Leger from Clonroche, Wexford, who emigrated with their children, William, Catharine, Mary Ann in 1852 on the ship William Rathbone out of Liverpool to Bucks County, Pennsylvania, US.  Any info is appreciated.  Thank you.

Kathleen
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Friday 04 May 18 07:53 BST (UK)
Pedigrees of St. Leger and Aldworth families prepared by Edward, 6th Viscount Doneraile, also notes by him on several other families, late 19th-early 20th c.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 21,717
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Friday 04 May 18 07:54 BST (UK)

Pedigrees of the St. Leger families, 12th - 19th c., compiled by the Rev. Edward Frederick St. Leger, 1 vol., 1867, also newscuttings relating to this volume compiled by the Rev. St. Leger and by his son, Edward Viscount Doneraile, 19th c.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 21,850
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Friday 04 May 18 07:55 BST (UK)

Pedigree of the family of Aldworth of Newmarket, a branch of the family of Aldworth of Stanlake, 17th - 19th c., compiled by Edward Viscount Doneraile, 19th c.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 21,851
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Friday 04 May 18 07:57 BST (UK)
Pedigree of St. Leger, Viscounts Doneraile, c.1750 -- 1819

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.171, pp.523-4
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Friday 04 May 18 08:00 BST (UK)
C Reg   Birth, Marriage and Death results for St Leger

Displaying results 1 - 100 of 607. http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m0e/
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: coc on Friday 20 July 18 14:27 BST (UK)
There was at least one family of Legers in New Ross when I was growing up in the 1950s. One started a dance band and began to call himself St. Leger (probably correctly!). There was a "Who do you think you are programme on UK TV last year, featuring Amanda Redman. She had St. Leger ancestors in or around New Ross, but they did not - at least on the programme - talk to any living St. Legers in the town. Pity.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Monday 08 October 18 22:54 BST (UK)
Not everything can be for free!!   ;D
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Tuesday 09 October 18 08:28 BST (UK)
Thank you, I do have a copy of that document but I need to go much further. 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 09 October 18 09:28 BST (UK)
Which document?
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 09 October 18 09:52 BST (UK)
You probably can't go much further back than the
Pedigrees of the St. Leger families, 12th - 19th c., compiled by the Rev. Edward Frederick St. Leger,
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Tuesday 09 October 18 09:56 BST (UK)
Which document?


The one by Rev. Edward St. Leger. 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Tuesday 09 October 18 10:12 BST (UK)
Fortunately for us there are so many other sources of information available today that Rev. Edward St. Leger did not have access too.  We are now very fortunate.  I am trying to establish a link between the main Doneraile line and the Tipperary line. 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: stlegermay on Saturday 19 January 19 23:07 GMT (UK)
Fortunately for us there are so many other sources of information available today that Rev. Edward St. Leger did not have access too.  We are now very fortunate.  I am trying to establish a link between the main Doneraile line and the Tipperary line.

Update on my recent messages. . .

My St Leger husband has recently taken a DNA test and amazingly he has three separate DNA matches with living descendants of the St. Legers of Heywards Hill line which now proves the link between the St. Legers of Shinrone and  Ballingarry and Borrisokane with the St, Legers of Heywards Hill and back to Ulcombe.
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: CelticMom on Thursday 23 May 19 18:09 BST (UK)
I have just discovered St Leger in my tree too. Mine appear to come from Waterford from where I am at now in my research. My 5xgreat grandmother being Mariam (Mary) St Leger born 1754 who I believe is the daughter of George St Leger and Catherina Power.

I too have done a DNA test, do you have a gedmatch?
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: FionaG on Wednesday 19 June 19 08:14 BST (UK)
In 1970 I worked for a solicitor in Dublin who had vast amounts of papers on the St. Legers of Doneraile from various church registers. All to do with the claim of American St. Legers to the title and property in Doneraile. Seems their claim failed, all to do with someone being born before the parents were married!
 
Title: Re: St. Leger Family
Post by: Marylebone Lad on Thursday 07 May 20 01:07 BST (UK)
Hi SidSilverSurfer
The lady you are researching Honora St. Ledger is my Great Grandmother, i can fill you in on the details i have if you contact me, hope you get this message. 

Am trying to find out about  Honora St. Ledger who may have been born in 1857 at Headford, Galway.  Do you happen to have any record of this lady who ends up, I believe, as Honora Collins.

Family rumour is that she fell on hard times and the family did not want to know but we all realise that this could be complete bunkem !!!