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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: jumi5 on Monday 29 May 06 02:35 BST (UK)
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re Dabb of Truro cornwall
Elizabeth ann DABB born 1844 married William henry trafalgar COOPER 11 july 1865 At St Helier Jersey.Page 48 no240
Fathers
Samuel DABB miner
Charles COOPER Mariner
Witness Anna Jane DABB
any one please.
Thank you
MIKE
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Hi Mike
I'm not sure what you're asking for.
1851 HO107/1907/123/24
Backless Mine, St Austell, Cornwall
Samuel Dabb, head, 36, tin dresser, b. St Mewan?
Maria Dabb, wife, 32, b. St Austell
Dinah Dabb, dau, 8, b. St Austell
Elizabeth Ann Dabb, 6, b. St Austell
William Dabb, 4, b. St Austell
(next page)
Samuel Dabb, 2, b. St Austell
1871 RG10/5757/150/4
20 Cannon Street, St Helier, Jersey
Elizabeth Cooper, head, mar, 26, seaman's wife, b. England
Alice Cooper, dau, 5, scholar, b. St Helier, Jersey
Isabella Cooper, dau, 3, scholar, b. St Helier
Charles Cooper, son, 1, b. St Helier
Cheers
Koromo
:)
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1861 RG9/1593/108/5
12 Market Jew St, Madron, Penzance, Cornwall
William Henry Dodge, head, M.R.C.S. Surgeon, b. St Austell, Cornwall
Charity Vyvyan Dodge, wife, 32, b. South Petherton, Somerset
Frances Vyvyan Dodge, dau, 2, b. Penzance, Cornwall
Rebecca May, serv, unmar, 25, domestic, b. St Austell, Cornwall
Elizabeth Ann Dabb, serv, unmar, 17, domestic, b. Redruth, Cornwall
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1881 RG11/5614/110/7 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx)
1891 RG12/4695/175/18
1 Trafalgar Villas, St Helier, Jersey
Elizabeth Cooper, head, mar, living on own means, b. Cornwall, England
Alice Cooper, dau, s, 27, dressmaker, b. St Helier
Isabella Cooper, dau, s, 23, dressmaker, b. St Helier
William Cooper, son, 13, scholar, b. St Helier
Hilda Cooper, dau, 10, scholar, b. St Helier
Errol Cooper, son, 5, scholar, b. St Helier
Otis Cooper, dau, 3, scholar, b. St Helier
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Drat! I'd hoped that there would be one census when mariner William Cooper was in port, so we could see where he was born. No such luck!
1901 RG13/5312/56/2
30 Belmont Rd, St Helier, Jersey
Elizabeth A Cooper, wife, mar, 55, b.
Alice S A Cooper, dau, s, 34, dressmaker, employer, b. St Helier, Jersey
Erol B Cooper, son, s, 15, telegraph messenger, b. St Helier
Doris? S Cooper, dau, 13, b. St Helier
Anne S Baudier, boarder, s, 66, living on own means, b. St Helier
Mary Litherland, board,wid, 80, living on own means, b. St Helier
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Hi Koromo
thank you for reply.
Looks like both are the links I needed.
I note your 2nd name has no father mentioned.but Samuel in above lot does fit .This is much appreciated once again thanks
Mike from KIWI.
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Hi again
Now I guess i go back further,so what is there to look at regarding Samuel DABB and Elizabeth Cooper and where to find there ancestors.I sure the DABBS came from Cornwall as there are DABBS in TRURO.
Coopers I am not sure.I guess again and say Jersey.
Mike
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I note your 2nd name has no father mentioned...
Kia ora!
I'm not sure who you are talking about here. :-\
There are two Marias who could be Samuel Dabb's wife:
FreeBMD: Marriages, Sep qtr 1840, St Austell, Volume 9 Page 2
Matilda Bond
John Bray
Maria Coombe
Samuel Dabb
Richard Hammer
Thomas Lucas
Ann Rowett
Maria Tonkin
Cheers
Koromo
:)
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On the 1841 census, there are only two Samuel Dabbs residing in Cornwall. One of them is born 1833-ish and is with his parents and many siblings in St Agnes (Truro Registration District). He is far too young to have had a daughter Elizabeth Dabb born in 1845.
The other one ties in with the Samuel Dabb on the 1851 census, but before any children have arrived:
1841 HO107/146/3/?/20
Treleareus? Lane, St Austell, Cornwall
Samuel Dabb, 20, miner, yes born in county
Maria Dabb, 20, yes
To be really sure which Maria is Samuel's wife, I guess you would need to get the marriage certificate.
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Kia ora From ex Napier
Right ,I am quoting the Maria From the 1851 census post of yours Showing Maria Dabb.age 32.
so ,which Maria is 21 when Married.Oh Dear ,the fathers were hard and made them wait till 21 so both could be 21.sept Qtr 1840.
Further back the harder.
regards
mike
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hello again
Well have to digest this lot nowand figure what to do next.My Many thanks for your help regards
mike Bishop
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Me again .My next quest is LE GRAND mother of my Gran.But here lurks a mystery(skeleton)??? ,can I ask for help later on this.
Regards mike
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Hiya Mike
This looks good!
From the IGI: FamilySearch (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true)
Samuel Dabb baptised 2 Jun 1816, Saint Mewan, Cornwall
Parents: William Dabb and Prudence
The bad news is that I can't find William or Prudence on the 1841!
But, these MIGHT faintly possibly be Samuel's siblings:
Parents: William Dabb and Prudence
Elizabeth Dabb, bap. 23 Nov 1806, St Agnes Near Truro, Cornwall
William Dabb, bap. 22 Apr 1810, St Agnes Near Truro, Cornwall
Mary Dabb, bap. 5 Dec 1812, St Agnes Near Truro, Cornwall
Mary Dabb, bap. 25 Dec 1818, St Mewan, Cornwall (maybe the first Mary died)
A surname of Le Grand sounds very exciting! :D
Best wishes
Koromo
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Ahhh! This could be Samuel's brother, if the above IGI information is correct:
1851 HO107/1907/296/14
Mount Charles, St Austell, Cornwall
William Dabb, head, 41, miner tin? flow dealer, b. St Agnes
Mary Dabb, wife, 34, b. St Sheppey
Elizabeth A Dabb, dau, 7, scholar, b. Redruth
Mary J Dabb, dau, 4, scohlar, b. Redruth
Henerita Dabb, dau, 3, scholar, b. St Austell
Louisa Dabb, dau, 2, at home, b. St Austell
Esther Dabb, dau, 3mths, infant, b. St Austell
Re your Esther Le Grand, I'll add on to your posted request on the Channel Islands Board.
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your really going for me
Thanks again regards mike
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There has been quite a lot of work done on Dabb - the evidence so far is that any Dabb from Cornwall is connected to the same family which originated in Probus in Cornwall. Family folklore is these peple were French & there is some circumstantial evidence to support this unproven point. The family initially seemed to be agricultural workers - but of course later on most became miners & migrated to New Zealand, Australia & North America. All Dabb's (ie no S) in New Zealand & Australia are part of the same family which has its roots in Cornwall. There is a large Dabb family tree put together by a few members of the family - but I do not have this Cooper Dabb connection so very keen to learn more about this. My paternal Grandmother was a Dabb & her forbears came to New Zealand abt 1855 & settled in Thames in the Coromandel - of course to be Gold Miners. Love to make contact & learn about this branch.
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Maria Coombe married Samuel Dabb abt. 1840, in St.Austell, Cornwall England.
they had 4 children:
Dinah, Elizabeth Ann, William & Samuel
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Hello
I am looking for some help with William J. Dabb as he is listed on his son's death certificate. (Born abt 1837) His wife is listed as Mary Ann Rowe on said certificate from Dickinson County, Michigan. Rowe is Mary Anns new married name. She is listed in the 1880 US Census for Marquette County, Michigan married to Henry Rowe. Sons William John Dabb and James Henry Dabb are living with her. Along with Thomas and Edwin Rowe (Henry's Sons). I believe Mary Ann to be Mary Ann Goldsworthy. But the Marriage record I find for Mary Ann in 1857 She marries John Dabb son on Aminadab Dabb. When I believe him to be the son of Melchisedec Dabb. I can find no record of an Aminadab Dabb anywhere. The 1861 UK census has Mary Ann married to a copper miner but he is not listed. The 1871 UK census lists Mary Ann as married but she is living with her mother with her 3 children. Their daughter dies in Feb 1874. And she has a son by Henry Rowe abt 1876 in Pennsylvania. From there they are found in Marquette County MI in 1880. But there is no sign of William Sr. Anywhere. I can not find a marriage record for Mary Ann and Henry Rowe either. Any Help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You .