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Census Lookups General Lookups => Census and Resource Discussion => Topic started by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 02 November 05 17:47 GMT (UK)
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I have had a reply from ProQuest as to which UK public libraries have this product available to their users on-site.
Ancestry Library Edition (Current Customers)
Public Libraries
Halton
Hertfordshire
Medway
Middlesbrough
North East Lincs
Plymouth
Solihull
Swindon
Glamorgan
Warrington
Hillingdon
Monmouthshire
Stoke
Birmingham
Sandwell
National Library National Library of Wales
PLUS of course LDS centres. See www.familysearch.org for local addresses.
Pauline
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I have seen (on another list) that Richmond Upon Thames library group now have access too.
Casalguidi
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I belong to the Kent list on rootsweb. One of the other listers has mentioned that several libraries in the UK are now subscribed to Ancestry.com and anyone registered at the library can use this free of charge. We are interested in trying to see if there would be a demand in Kent for this and have already approached the Kent Libraries central office to enquire about whether they have any plans to offer this service. Obviously if it would be in demand this may well have a bearing on whether they decide to take up a subscription.
I would be happy for any responses to come to me as a personal message rather than clog up the list.
Dorothy
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From what I've read on another forum, Kent libraries has now taken out a subscription to ancestry (available to view in the actual libraries)
Casalguidi :)
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Lancashire Libraries also have this now :)
Stephen :)
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Glad to hear that other Libraries are taking advantage of the subscription.
Dorothy
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Devon, too ... ;D
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Lancashire Libraries also have this now :)
Stephen :)
Liverpool in particular has for quite a little while now, but the motto is "Use it or Lose it" as they need to know the subscription is worthwhile.
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Not sure if the Liverpool/Merseyside/Lancashire lists at Rootsweb are aware that Ancestry.com can be accessed free of charge at local libraries - I will check with the various list admins and ask if they have any objection to mentioning it on the posts.
Dorothy
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Been told the library in the Forum in Norwich has this facility now,although i can't verify personally at the moment.
Steve
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I can confirm that KCC Library Service has subscribed - I used it in Dover before coming on holiday (writing from soggy Pennsylvania!).
Regards, Bill
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Trowbridge Library also has access to Ancestry (free)
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I'm puzzled. That cannot be a complete list. I know, for certain, that it's available in all Devon County's 56 libraries and it omits several others that RootsChat users have identified.
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Sorry
Please ignore my previous message. I was reading an old posting.
Apologies
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I'm puzzled. That cannot be a complete list. I know, for certain, that it's available in all Devon County's 56 libraries and it omits several others that RootsChat users have identified.
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How could it be a current list for June 2006? It was put up in November last year
Pauline
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Yes. Sorry Pauline. I did realise straightaway and posted an apology. I'm afraid I was in email mode (latest at the top) and neglected to check the date of your posting.
Mea Culpa ...
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Good to see how many more have been added in the last 6 months though, eh?
Pauline
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Absolutely! :D
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My Mum's in Nuneaton and she said they now have access to Ancestry!!
Just thought I'd let you know, for those that are local to that area. :D
Pipkim
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All of North Tyneside libraries have access to Ancestry [I think]
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And Calderdale (Halifax & area) now has it too.
http://www.calderdale.gov.uk/libraries/services/online-reference.html
http://www.proquest.com/products_pq/descriptions/ale.shtml
Pauline
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Just to add Milton Keynes have it too. ;D
The sub-scription is £3,000 therefore although dear to the Libraries a god send to us.
Cheers Sandy
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The Berkshire Family History Society's research centre in Reading has Ancestry Library available to visitors (a small charge is made - £1 per hour).
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All the libraries in Hillingdon have access to it, but not all librarians are up to speed on getting to it through the library portal ???
Dawn
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Just learnt last night that Cheshire libraries hope to go live with this free subsciption in the next couple of weeks
Sallysmum
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Cheshire libraries now have access to Ancestry, at least the Northwich branch does. Used it this morning :)
Genna
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Across the pond, Toronto Public Libraries has it in both Reference Libraries and in the District Libraries (not all branch libraries), not including S.Walter Stewart Lib., which is currently closed for renovations, and they have not moved the computers in question to another library.
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From down under in Nelson New Zealand all 3 of our libraries
were connected in April. Available to Locals and visitors, so if you are down this way and getting withdrawal symptoms you can get your "GENO KICk" in Sunny Nelson
Oma.
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Just to add Milton Keynes have it too. ;D
The sub-scription is £3,000 therefore although dear to the Libraries a god send to us.
Cheers Sandy
...popped in there today to find out what was on offer - all the PC's were being used at the time, it was lunch time. Is it the worldwide version or just the UK one? I have a relative or two that emigrated and would like the challenge of trying to find some records.
I see that they have the Electronic Times in there too.
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If it's anything like my local libraries (South Gloucestershire), it's the worldwide one.
The notes in the liibrary imply that it can be accessed from home too, via their portal, but I'd need to check that (I don't believe it....!)
Angela
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Thanks for that I have searched around the MKweb and can't see that I can access Ancestry at home :'( but you can search the The Times Digital Archive if you have a library ticket. Will have to keep my eye out - it maybe coming soon, I think the Times is very new.
I actually live in Ampthill, Beds so have checked BedsCC web as well but they do not seemed to be offering anything.
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Having had a look at Bedfordshire library websites, most of them say something like
Free access to census records 1841- 1901 on Ancestry Library Edition web site at http://ancestrylibrary.proquest.com
........ except for Ampthill of course! I would think it was worth going in to ask :) as I imagine it would have been funded for the whole of Bedfordshire.
Good luck!
Angela
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You are qute right Angela - the newspapers can be searched from home using your library card number but Ancestry can only be accessed on site. If you attempt to access it from home you will get an error message.
Regards, Bill
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Thanks for that, Bill - I suspected as much :(
Pity though - it would have been really good to ditch my Ancestry subscription!
Best wishes
Angela
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Yes, they buy it on a "per computer" basis; if they had to licence it to all our home computers, the cost would be astronomical.
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Thanks for that, loo!
I can see that it does make sense to do it on that basis. If I work really hard on my researches while my subscription is running, I may be able to use the library for the occasional lookup after that. I can't see the library being happy with me using their computers for quite the amount of time I currently spend on family history ;D
Angela
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Don't know if it is the same in your library, but Kent limits you to one-hour sessions.
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Hmmmm ....it would mean I got a lot more work done ;D
Must check if that's general. Thanks Bill
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In MK they limit you to 1/2 an hour - but the lady said this isn't strictly adhered to if it isn'y busy.
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In Lancashire you can use Ancestry for the full two-hours that you can use a computer for.
Stephen :)
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In Lancashire you can use Ancestry for the full two-hours that you can use a computer for.
Stephen :)
except on Saturdays when it's one hour only (at least in Lancaster)
Chris
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Sometimes friends and rellies will "loan" you their library card number.
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The subscription is £3,000 therefore although dear to the Libraries a god send to us.
We are all paying for it at the end of the day ... I prefer to spend £60 odd quid and stay at home .... less than the price of an evening out.
Doubtless budgets will come under review when council tax rises are next resented.
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Cheshire libraries have this online via the Virtual Reference Library link. This is available to users in all the Cheshire library computers.
AK
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Suffolk Libraries now also give access.
See: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,208776.0.html
Rick :)
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For those in Toronto - The Toronto Public Library has this facility at some branches.
jc
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....and available in Warwickshire, too!
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We have none near us, and apparently the FHC of the LDS supply of Ancestry is coming to an end too
Bob
Edited Error - note that FHC means family history centre
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??? ??? I'm having a dim day!! What is the HCC of the LDS supply of Ancestry?
Liz
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??? ??? I'm having a dim day!! What is the HCC of the LDS supply of Ancestry?
Liz
The LDS is the Latter Day of Saints
PLUS of course LDS centres. See www.familysearch.org for local addresses.
and i think that the HHC is somekind of H ? ? ? ? ?History Centre
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I re-edited the message which of course stands for family history centre
Bob
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::) ??? ::)
I knew what LDS was, it was the other bit, but I understand the posting now, I think! The FHC at LDS is giving up its subscription to Ancestry.
Liz
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AUSSIES:
For anyone who is interested, Melbourne Libraries (including the suburban ones) now have the 1930 US Federal Census and almost any other Census you are interested in. WHOOHOO !! They subscribe to Ancestry which is pretty terrific.
Check with your local library and you need to book in advance to use the computers. You can have a couple of hours and if they're not busy you can sit there as long as you keep paying your $2 an hour. Well worth it.
CP
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If Aussies and Americans can have census after 1901, what is so precious about the UK census?
Liz
ps. Hope this doesn't mean I've hi-jacked a topic again.
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Hi Lizzie, (not dripping) ;D
You have never hijacked a topic hun. We just love your messages. ;D
The Census thing seems to be a money making racket at the moment. I fail to see any special significance myself so maybe someone can answer our query.
Hugs
CP
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Last night (or the wee hours of this morning to be honest), I logged into Ancestry.com and Ancestry.co.uk and tried to access the 1930 US Federal Census only to be "greeted" with an "Upgrade now". I was ropable (fit to be tied) because I thought that my subscription of $120 was enough to cover everything - but NOT so according to them.
I was not impressed and wrote and told them so.
Had to go to the Library and fortunately they have it.
CP
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I've had that too. I thought I'd try looking at US census just in case I had a missing relative there (my dad used to say he had some relatives in US), but got the same message as you, so I didn't bother.
Liz
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If Aussies and Americans can have census after 1901, what is so precious about the UK census?
Aussies can't - all their census data is destroyed a few years after it is taken - they live up to their promise of perpetual privacy.
The UK promise has been modified to a 100 year closure - now reduced for 1911 by the FOI commission. From 1921 (I believe) census records come under a law enacted between 1911 and 1921 - making sure the closure is 100 years.
I have no idea what the situation is in the US.
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Ancestry Library now available in West Berkshire libraries.
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Oh, I thought I had read some of the Rootschatters from Australia mentioning that they had searched more current records than we have available, probably misread or misunderstood what they were saying.
However, Ancestry.com has US census records on line from 1790 to 1930 inclusive. I don't know how much information is available on the very old ones, as my subscription doesn't let me look at the US censuses.
Liz
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The State Library Of Tasmania Australia also has the Ancestry Library Edition if any one in Tassie is interested.
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Scarborough Library in North Yorkshire has this now also!!
Just to let you know!
Emma.
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"Ancestry Library Edition is now available free of charge at Shropshire Archives! This website contains a wealth of genealogical information including the 1841 - 1901 census returns and indexes to birth, marriage and death certificates."
http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives.nsf
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I grabbed the free 3 day trial on Ancestry .com last week and I must say I was very dissapointed. The records are not as structured as ours and if you have no idea whereabouts in the USA your ancestors may have headed you have very little chance of finding them. Especially if they were Irish. :' :(
Joanne
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I happened upon this thread while just casually browsing the site and realised that the Library Edition of Ancestry is just what I need. Checked out my county library website and there it was, advertised on their portal. Toddled off to nearest branch, logged in to a 'drop-in' PC (30 minutes use) and quickly got access to all UK Censuses, including images and ability to save at full resolution to my memory stick. OK, the site is US oriented by default (looks like there is access to their records as well) but I can live with that.
Enquiries suggested that all UK libraries now subscribe to this invaluable tool.
Is there a case for moderators to post a 'sticky' on each county's look-up request' section to draw everyone's attention?
Sherwood.
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Unfortunately no library I know has access to this
Surrey Library (where I live) does not
Bracknell library (where I used to work does not)
Bob
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Looks like London Borough of Ealing libraries have it but haven't used it yet to be sure.
Will let you know when I've checked it out.
Dawn
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Leicestershire libraries do not appear to have it - anyone know differently?
Valry
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OK, not all UK covered so we need an up-to-date list. I've scanned this thread and gathered the offerings together, trying to put them into counties as per the Rootschat county list. I've checked some library web sites as well. Input from other members is now needed to verify/amend/update the list. Where I have shown a specific town/place in a county perhaps someone could say whether access is countywide. There are a few where I don't know which county they should go in; please advise.
Bedfordshire YES
Berkshire West Berks, Windsor & Maidenhead but NOT Bracknell Forest (Unitary Authorities)
Buckinghamshire Milton Keynes
Cambridgeshire YES
Cheshire YES, includes Halton and Wirrel
Cornwall YES
Cumberland UNKNOWN
Derbyshire Local studies library, Irongate
Devon YES
Dorset YES
Durham YES
Essex YES
Gloucestershire South Gloucs.
Hampshire YES (in 'many' Hants. libraries)
Herefordshire UNKNOWN
Hertfordshire YES
Huntingdonshire UNKNOWN
Kent YES
Lancashire YES
Leicestershire NO
Lincolnshire NE Lincs.
London Hillingdon, Ealing
Middlesex UNKNOWN
Norfolk Norwich
Northamptonshire UNKNOWN
Northumberland YES
Nottinghamshire ANCESTRY in county, FINDMYPAST in city
Oxfordshire UNKNOWN
Rutland UNKNOWN
Shropshire YES
Somerset North Somerset
Staffordshire Stoke
Suffolk YES
Surrey Richmond upon Thames
Sussex UNKNOWN
Warwickshire YES
Westmorland UNKNOWN
Wiltshire Trowbridge, Swindon
Worcestershire History Centre, Trinity St
Yorkshire (East Riding and York) UNKNOWN
Yorkshire (North Riding) Scarborough
Yorkshire (West Riding) Calderdale, Halifax
These have access but I don’t know which of the above counties to put them in:
Birmingham, Solihull, Sandwell
Liverpool
North Tyneside, Middlesbrough
WALES
Glamorgan YES
Monmouthshire YES
NON-UK
Canada Toronto, Victoria ( BC)
New Zealand YES
Tasmania YES
Australia Melbourne
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I live in Victoria, B.C. Canada and was delighted to discover that my local library also has Ancestry Library Edition.
Kassie
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Wirral libraries have it.
Halton, I think, comes under Cheshire.
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Flintshire YES
Denbighshire NO
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Swindon - no, but hopefully in April (my words not theirs)