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Hello
I recently picked this old book up at a secondhand bookshop, and thought I'd post some info here in case it will be of help to someones research. Called Co-Partners' Magazaine, Vol V 1915 it is an annual of the Gas Light & Coke Company. This company was London based with works, offices and showrooms all over London, the main works being at Beckton East London.
This edition of the magazine, while providing info on the company, is basically a war record of its employees for the year. At 350 pages it has tons of military photos (portraits, at the front, platoon groups, barracks, training, work etc), "Letters from the Front", Injury Reports, War reports of all kinds, a Roll of Honour with photos and profiles, photos of the Company's Men with the Colours etc etc.
I hope it might be useful to someone and although the index isn't the best I'd be search out information if you'd like. I've included a few images to give you an idea of what it contains.
For a full alphabetical list of those mentioned, click the link below ...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/biker999/
Regards
Biker
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I love it when you buy books Biker !! ;) ;) ;)
You and all the other guys on here - who get into so much trouble for having such a great library !!
That looks like a "keeper " to me !
Does it have an index ?- and if so - how is it indexed ? .... names ..... regiments ??
Annie :) :) :)
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Hi Annie
As you know I'm a bit of a book fiend and have just started doing a lot more reading on WWI, not a bad bargain for £1 !! I've browsed this so far and it's fascinating stuff - thought I'd post it here as there probably aren't many of these in circulation. I also like to put a little bit back into the Armed Forces board since I get so much help!
The short answer is by Surname ...
It does have an index by Surname which is quite brief considering the numbers of soldiers mentioned in the book. There is also a monthly Supplementary List of those Serving which lists Name: Occupation: Rank: Regiment or Ship. There is also a Roll of Honour (Killed in Action or Died of Wounds) which is complete I think for 1915 and alphabetical by Surname.
It seems well anotated with all the photos having Name, Rank, Regiment.
Cheers :)
Biker
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Hi Biker,
I have just seen this post, and was wondering if by any small chance the book contains anything on my Great Grandfather Frederick John Maisey. I know that he was born on 21 Jul 1897 in Camberwell, Surrey and from family stories & from his marriage certificate (1926) and his daughters (1947) that he worked in a Gas works and moved over london for his job. I know that his family ended up in Barking, and he worked in beckton.
Thanks
Richard
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Hi Richard
Sorry for the late reply but have been glued to the TV watching the World Cup and also have a lot of work on at the moment so sadly little time for family history :(
However, I'll have a good look through the book and let you know what I come up with (if anything).
Regards
Biker
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Hi Biker,
Thanks, i know how you feel with lots of work :(
Richard
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Hello,
Is there any mention in the book to anyone with the surname "Heming", one of my Heming ancestors is supposed to have lit the first London gas street light, I think around 1807, I'm not sure of his first name but his son is supposed to be my Great Great Great grandfather Henry Heming.
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Hi Amanda
I did look without success although there is a 100 odd year difference.
Regards
Biker
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Thanks, Biker, for your reminder on another thread of this one.
I know my grandfather, Edmund George Dixon worked for the company, but I'm not sure when. He was in WWI.
Any mention, perchance?
meles
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Hi meles
I'm just off to have supper but will wade through it later - its a thick book and annoyingly not indexed ;)
Just thought I'd mention quickly there is a G H Dixon of Pioneer Corp The Rangers with a photo that I noticed. Any relation?
Will have a better look for your man later though.
Cheers
Biker
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No problems - no hurry!
GH might, just might, be g grandfather.
meles
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Hi meles
I've attached a rough scan of the only Dixon who appears in this edition.
Can do a proper scan if required.
Biker
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I'd like to think so, but probably not related...
Thanks for looking this up for me. Very much appreciated.
meles
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Message for Biker re: Gas Light & Coke Co....
Just read about the book you brought about the above..
I am a volunteer for War Memorial Trust, and have been following up their War Memorial which is sited at the old gasworks now sold off to PROLOGIS. The War Memorial had last year had all the bronze name plaques stolen! I reported this to WMT and after much correspondence with the owners they now have replaced the name plaques albeit on plastic sheets BUT at least they are back on the Memorial.
I'm also doing some research on the names for an article, and your book sounds 'just what I'm looking for'....
Is their any chance I could have a good look at it??? be so grateful.
I can't find out much at all about this Memorial on the internet, or much about the company...
Living in hope..... thank you.
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Was very interested in your book, my grandfather worked for a gas company in Stratford but on his marriage certificate in 1916 was listed as asoldier. Could you see if he is in your book.
Henry Amos Frederick Hill (Hill being a common name)
Thanks very much
2shea
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You don't by any chance have a Charles Edward James Flint in your book - I know he worked for the gas company in Enfield - apparently he used to go round lighting the gas lamps and I know he also served in the armed forces.
Any information would be much appreciated.
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Hello - is there a Peter Carney listed. He was my grandfather and died in 1942 of TB. He was an employee and I know he served at Ypres. Abigail
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Hi
I hope you still have this book! :)
Can you please let me know if you have seen an Arthur Stevens listed in it.
Many thanks
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Hi there!
Is there a Robert George Collins listed in your book at all? He went to France in Sept 1915, he was a driver and his number was 60087, in the R.F.A. When he enlisted in 1909 in the 12th Battalion "The Rangers" he worked at the Gas Light & Coke Co and lived in Limehouse, Stepney. I don't know if any of that will be any use, but I've never even seen a picture of him before and he is my GGGrandfather. Thanks in advance ;D
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Hello
Sorry I missed your post and reply is late but no Collins is not mentioned. There is only a Pte E Collins of the 1/4 Essex Regiment, Stoker at the Beckton works. Was wounded at the Dardanelles on August 4th.
p.s. I now have an index of surnames so it is easier to look up now.
Regards
Biker
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Hi Biker,
Just came across your posts re the Gas Light Co; My great-grandfather, Wallenstein Marchant, worked for the company in 1911 in London. Would you be so kind as to have yet another look in your book for me. Really appreciate it if you can.
Thank you.
:)
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Hello
There is a Lnce-Corpl Marchant mentioned - there is no initial or first name noted. He was with the York and Lancaster Regt, there is also a photo of him in uniform.
I wonder if this is the man you are looking for?
Regards
Biker
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Hello Biker
Thank you so much for looking for me. I can't say for sure as I'm not certain yet of his involvement in service. I will try and find out some more. The chap in the middle of my profile picture is Wallenstein's son, Wallenstein. Sadly I haven't got any photographs of Wallenstein Snr. so I would only be able to go on likeness. Also, the family lived in Lambeth. I won't make you go to the trouble of scanning the photo unless I can be more certain. May come back to you on that one.
Have a good weekend! :)
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Hi Biker
Is there by any chance any men with the surname MANN or PRIOR?
Thanks
Ringrose
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Hello vrm
I've done a quick snapshot, if he is the chap you are looking for I can do a better quality scan for you.
Regards
Biker
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Ringrose,
There is a Corporal H Prior in the Royal Engineers, he has a photo of him in uniform.
Regards
Biker
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Hi Biker
That Corporal H Prior would be my great uncle---know you are busy but any chance of a picture?
Many s
Ringrose
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Hi Ringrose,
Just done a quick scan, so if this is your relative I can email you a good quality one if you'd like to send your email to me via PM.
Regards
Biker
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Hi Biker
Thank you so much for the picture of L.C Marchant. Can't see any likeness but very much appreciated. I won't dismiss it and will keep in mind.
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Hi Biker
Yes this is the right H Prior. Can see the family likeness
Many thanks
Ringrose
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I have several generations of ancestors who worked at the Beckton gasworks. Is there any mention of anyone with the surname Ager?
With thanks
Marilyn Kenyon
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Hi Marilyn
No Agers mentioned sorry.
Regards
Biker
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hi biker, any chance that there is a james henry coward in your book, j h coward. i know he was killed in 1917 and worked for the gas light and coke company be most greatfull if you could find it for me,many thanks
rob.
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Hello Rob
No sorry no mention of a Mr Coward.
Regards
Biker
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Picked up this thread again.
Could you look up Henry Amos Frederick Hill. I found Henry's attestation papers and he is noted as working for a gas company.
Would be interested if there was any information or photos.
Thanks
2shea
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Hello 2shea
Sorry he is not listed.
Cheers
Biker
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Thanks for looking
2shea
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Biker
My Great Uncle F J Gobell Rfmn 1465 12th Londons "The Rangers" is listed on the Gas Light & Coke Company War Memorial.
He died on 1st July 1916 so not sure if he would be in this 1915 journal.
Could you check for me please.
Thank you.
Mark
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Hi Biker,
I just come across this thread, whilst searching for Information on my 2x Great grandfather name of Henry C J LARKIN. He worked for a Gaslight Co in London and had a pension from them. Could he or his daughter Louisa be mentioned in this book. I would be very grateful if you could have a look when you have a spare moment! Thanks in advance and keep up the good work. Mike
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Hello
Sorry there was no mention of those last two.
I have temporarily uploaded a full list here to view here ...
http://members.lycos.co.uk/biker999/
Regards
Biker
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Thanks Biker - Much appreciated
Mike
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hi is there any halsey mentioned,thanks ian
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Hi Ian
I have made the list available to view, just click on the link a few posts above this one. Sorry it was very small before and perhaps you didn't notice it.
Regards
Biker
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I'm searching for my great, great grandfather Edward Adams who was a stoker at the Gasworks from 1881 to around WW1. Evidently, when he died in 1937, age 81, he was one of the oldest surviving Pensioners. I understand that the Local Studies Library at Stratford have copies of Co Partners from 1911. I am wondering if you could suggest searching other sources?
Also, Edward was the son of a Wesleyan preacher and I believe he became a Methodist. I expect that he would have joined a Union.
Many thanks,
Karen.
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Although 3 years late I have just seen your post regarding the Gas Light and Coke company 1915 Annual. Both my Grandfather and my uncle worked for them and my uncle Frederick Bird was killed in action on 25th Sep 1915 the first day of the Battle of Loos. He was with the 2nd Btn Rifle Brigade who I believe were that day involved in an action at Bois Grenier. I see in the index which you posted that an F Bird (machine gunner) appears in the roll of honour page 292. I had no idea he was a machine gunner and wonder if the one listed is my Frederick Bird. Can you let me know if there is any other info on him or even a photo. Any information would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
David Bird
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Hello,
No problem this is an ongoing offer. I have done a quick scan for you and attached it.
If you would like a better quality scan (there is another similar photo which is better quality in another section of the book) please PM me with your email and I will do that for you.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Biker
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This is absolutely unbelievable as I never thought I would find anything more about Fred and had given up thinking I would find more. I am sure this must be my man. Date of death and regiment match and I have a birthdate of Oct 1892 where they say 4th Oct 1892. I have only one photo of him in civvies probably taken some years earlier which doesn't look exactly like this new photo, but is near enough. I don't know how to PM you and so am posting this reply. I would be very grateful if you could let me have the higher resolution scan if possible. Very many thanks once more.
David Bird
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Hello biker...
I am new to the site.But have you any details of my Father Snow Blagburn Tallantyre and my uncle William Vivian Shannan who both worked at the Gas Light & Coke Company and took out patents on their behalf.
Regards,
Chamber.
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Hello chamber
Sorry but neither of those people are mentioned in the volume I have.
If you haven't already you might consider contacting or visiting Newham Archives. Here is a link for further information
http://www.newham.gov.uk/Services/LibraryDetails/AboutUs/ArchivesAndLocalStudies.htm
Good luck with that
Biker
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Thanks biker,,, will keep trying as I know they worked there in 1923 with William Lewcock & others.. Galbraith, Siderfin etc. from Patent applications by the Gas Light & Coke
Regards,
Chamber
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Hello Biker
Hope I'm not to late for a request, have just found your posting regarding the Gas Light & Coke Company.
Is there anything on my Grandfather Rifleman Henry Alfred Connor formerly of Becton Rangers and 12th London Reg.
An extract from the June 1941 'Co-Partners' Magazine' said, Product Works On Febuary 2nd, Mr H.A. Connor was presented with a case of pipes for himself and a handbag for his wife. He was retiring after 38years service with the company.
Thanks in anticipation
John
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Hi John
Sorry to say that he isn't mentioned in the index in the 1915 edition.
Regards
Biker
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Thanks biker, much obliged.
Regards John
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Hello Biker
On your first post does the alphabetical list of soldiers show names from A-Z,
only the names I'm getting finish at BLACK W. Would love to get the full list if possible.
Many thanks
John
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Hi John
That is curious. I have checked myself and can see the whole list. The last name is Young.
I wonder if anyone else is having the same problem or can confirm what they can see?
Regards
Biker
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Hello Biker,
A few seconds to load and then I can scroll it down to Young with no problem.
Phil
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Thanks for checking that Phil.
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Hi Biker,
Thanks for posting this information. A number of my relatives worked for the GAs Light & Coke Company. I think that the HG Salisbury listed in your index may be one of them. Is there any chance that you could post or send me any information on this chap that you have found in this book?
Thanks again for taking the trouble to transcribe and share all of this information.
Pete
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Hello Pete
Just a brief outline to see if you can identify him as yours or not. There is a photo in the book of HG Salisbury who was in the Signal Section of "The Rangers". There is also a brief "War Service Notes" regarding an honour conferred on him by The Czar of Russia and bestowing on him the Cross of the Order of St George. Pte Salisbury , now 19 years of age has been in the Maintenance Dept of the Company since he was 14 first in Paddington and then in Edgware Road ... etc.
If this is your relative then if you PM me your email I can send you scans of the appropriate pages.
Regards
Biker
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Hi Biker, I have recently purchased an item with an inscription on it. The item was presented to a H S REESON of the gas light and coke company London in 1918. In researching this name I have come up with your thread and see his name is listed in your index. Would it be possible to let me have any further information or a picture of him if there is one?
Regards
Martin.
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Hello Martin,
Here is the information.
Regards
Biker
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Hello Biker, thanks very much for the picture and info, its great to put a face to a name.
Best regards
Martin.
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Hello, I have a rellie named Peter Carney who was hairdresser in Liverpool. Lived with his mother, Margaret and brother Richard, who was a barber also. Any info is welcomed.May have went to USA tho.
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Hello Biker
This is my first posting. I was interested to read about your book. My great uncle James William Hearn worked for the Gas Light and Coke Company at their Bromley By Bow Works in east london. He served with the Royal Berkshire regiment, he won the Military Medal and Bar and reached the rank of sargent. He was killed in action on 17th May 1918. His name appears on the memorial plaque in the gas works. I don't have a photograph of him, I would be grateful for any information on James if you can help.
Regards Pan Man
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Hello Biker
My grandfather (Ralph WILLSMER) and granduncle (Norrie WILLSMER) worked for Gas Light and Coke. .. is there any mention of either of them please - probably not in the Armed forces, but as employees.
Thanks a lot
Caroline
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Pan Man
There is a photo of Sgt J W Hearn on page 6 of the 1919 Co-partners magazine.
If you send me an e.mail address I will send you the file with the whole book.
He will also be mentioned in the memorial booklet for the service at the Royal Albert Hall, but I cannot find the disc with the info on it at the moment.
Regards
Pete
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Caroline,
Each book is several hundred pages, and there are 6 of them.....
If you pm me an e.mail address I am happy to let you have copies - I only have the ww1 years though, if you could narrow the years down it may save you some eye-strain!
Pete
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Thanks for the reply Pete, I didn't realise there was so much to look through. I thought perhaps there was an index of sort. My grandfather and two of his brothers worked there and I have them on at least the 1901 census and Horace (Norrie) also worked there and went up to executive level, and I know my grandad was quite high up too, but they will be too early for WW1. To be honest I don't know why my grandad was not in the First W.War now that I come to think of it - or maybe he was? (I didn't know him)
Is it only people who served in the war mentioned in your book? My grandad and Norrie (at least among the brothers) worked there all their working careers.
How do I send you my email address? Do I just put it on here?
regards
Caroline
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Caroline
Hi
The books cover everything, social, sports, promotions etc etc,
If you click on my name it will take you to the contact section - just go into the send a message option - we have a slight problem in that my e.mail is limited to a max file size of 25mb and each book is bigger than that, so I need to find a way of sending them to you.
The books are are review of each year though, so if they were there prior to 1914 they may well not be mentioned in the ones I have.
Pete
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Pete Hi,
Thank you very much for sending me a copy of your book on disc.
Also for all the time and effort you put in to trace my family members, dispite the wrong information from me.
Your an absolute star I cannot thank you enough.
regards Barry
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Always a pleasure, especially to be able to provide photo's as well as info.
Its a shame I only have a digital copy of the books as one pdf, if they were individual photos of each page they could be hosted on photobucket and much more easily accessible.
Also, would be nice to have digital photos of the memorial panels showing names, to go with the info.
Think I've seen them on photobucket somewhere, will have another look when I get a mo'.
Pete
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Hi Pete
in all the years I've worked on the Bromley site I've never taken a photo. So it's about time I did.
There's not a lot left of the old site, but I will take what I can. Some old gas holders are there and then the dock where the boats came in, empty of water and one half filled in. There is of coarse the memorial and a column with a gas lamp still burning on top.
I will let you know when they are taken and send you copies.
regards Barry
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Thats very kind of you Barry, thanks.
If you can, readable photos of the memorial panels would be of great help, I can then correlate a panel number and the ROH names, makes it easier to provide info without having to hunt through discs.
Pete.
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No problem I will do my best.
Barry
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;D ;D ;D ;D
I have absolutely no experience of researching family history. I am however writing a short (30-page) autobiography which I hope to will be passed on to future generations of my family.
Whilst writing a paragraph on my grandfather George Henry Dixon yesterday I searched on Google for the Gas Light and Coke Company for whom he worked. I came across Biker's post on 6th June 2006 and followed the thread to the bottom of the page.
Imagine my emotions when I scrolled down to a photograph of my grandfather which biker had posted in response to a query from meles.
I never met him, and have no photographs of him, but there is absolutely no doubt that the photo is him, as the family resemblance is really strong. I know that he served in France as a NCO before being repatriated to the UK where he ended the war as a weapons instructor.
Biker, meles, and everyone involved in RootsChat thank you so very much.
Amazing!
Bolshybob
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Bob
For your paragraph on him, you can add that he worked in the Gas Sales Dept in Goswell Road.
From the 1914 annual.
Pete
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Fao KAT60087
I have been through the 14/15/16 books, no mention of Collins in 'men with the colours'.
Pete
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Thanks Pete. He is shown on his 1907 marriage certificate as a gas fitter and when he emigrated to Australia in 1923 he is shown as a plumber so I would think that in 1914 he was installing new gas appliances bought from Goswell Road.
This forum is great
Regards
Bob
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I think that would be spot on.
Pete.
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Hi there
Thank you for doing this, I have the family name of Priddy that were lamp lighters most in Camberwell few other places as well.
Many thanks
Hazelx
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Hazel,
Can you give me a possible year?
Do you have any info that they enlisted, tells me where to look, as the books are big and not really listed in any sensible fashion.
Pete
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I will have to get back to you as i am not at home so dont have info on me. :-[
I know there was a Abraham Priddy and John William Priddy ???
Southwark some came from Old Kent Road between 1858 -1950's
Sorry about that.
Thank you again, When i get home will look rest up.
Hazel ???
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I've just found my step grandfather's membership book to the Co-Partnership scheme dated 10 Aug 1915. I have no idea whether he may be mentioned in the book you have . Would you be able to check for me ? His name was Archibald Thomas Joyce . Thanks
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Do you know if he served in the army?
Pete
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No idea I'm afraid. he was born in 1893 , so should have been the right age to fight. But I only knew him when he was an old man & I was a child, so no idea what he'd got up to before he married into our family.
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Hello Biker.
I don't know if you still look at this thread (hope you do) but my greatgrandfathers brother is listed on the index.
Surname - CROW
Initial - S (SYD)
Rank or position - PRIVATE
Regiment - 2nd Wiltshire Regt
Entry Key - P, O
page - 163
I was wondering what information the entry has and whether there is a photograph and description of how he was killed perhaps.
Thanks in advance
Ali.
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This is his cwgc entry
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=585369
Will dig out the annuals and have a look for you.
Pete
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Hi Pete.
Thanks for the reply. I look forward to what you can find and am very grateful, thanks.
Ali.
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Hi guys with the info on the gas light and coke company.
My ancestor, George Griffin Cook worked as a labourer at gas works and at gas light and coke company. He lived in Willesden and Stonebridge Park, so his gas works would have been in that vicinity.
I know he was working there in 1909, and on his death cert dated 1927 he was noted as labourer gas works.
Having been born in 1861 he was too old for military service in the Great War, but I wonder whether your books contain obits?
REgards
Jill
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Ali
I have checked the Remembrance Booklet for Sydney Crow - I cant see him listed, but I do have a couple of pages missing.
I have checked the 1914 Annuals, and 1915 up to May, he isnt listed as a company man serving with the colours, nor does he appear on the In Memoriam pages.
Is there any more info that may confirm he worked at GL&C and not another coke or gas co. (gas is unlikely as there was only Tottenham Gas Co. as an alternative).
Pete
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Ok, had a bit more success today.
Syd Crow appears on page 162 of the July 1915 edition, and there is a photo of him on page 164.
He is mentioned on page 24 of the remembrance Programme - one of the two pages I dont have.
The text in the magazine is as follows:
'The subject of this photograph has been reported as missing since March 12th (1915). he was engaged in the battle of Neuve Chapelle when last heard of. he was employed at Beckton as a Boiler Trimmer, and is the son of H.Crow of the Mainlaying Department.'
I have scanned copies of the annuals - each scan is a full year so I cannot attach them to emails I'm afraid - maybe you could pm Biker and see if he could scan the two pages?
Cheers
Pete
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Dropping this in here so i dont lose it.
http://booth.lse.ac.uk/cgi-bin/do.pl?sub=retrieve_catalogue_notebook&args=a25
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Hi Pete.
Thank you for that, I didn't see the first message about more information as I could have told you that he was listed as working for the company on the 1911 census but nevertheless you have found him anyway.
I have had contact with Biker and am awaiting the information and hopefully the photo from him but I know he is busy so I just have to be patient. The photograph of Sydney would be the only photo I have of this side of the family.
I know they eventually found and identified Sydney as a I have a photograph of his Commonwealth War Grave headstone from the wargrave photographic people but it is nice (if that is the right word) to know what battle he lost his life in as it enables me to continue to build up the social history of this side of the family.
Thank you for your time Pete, it is most appreciated.
Ali.
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Ali
He is also named on the GL&C war memorial - I will see if I can find an image where the names are readable, will post it here if I can.
Pete
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Peter
Am I correct in understanding that you have the Co-Partners publications on CDs?
If so, I'd love to have a copy if possible please.
Thank you
Mark
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Hi Mark
I have copies of all but 1917, problem is that it has been saved in a non-downloadable format so all I can do is look at them, not save them to my computer - otherwise i could post them up here.
However, they were copied for me by the Gas Archive in Warrington, they have done all the hard work and I'm sure will send you cd's if you ask them.
Think its www.gasarchive.org or similar
My real interest is in the Tottenham Gas Company, which is a completely seperate entity, but found the annuals too interesting to just get rid of!
Pete
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Peter
Thanks for your reply.
I have contacted the Gas Archives before and will do so again now I know exactly what to ask for.
I've also found that the Co Partners magazines are all held at the Stratford Archives in Newham, London, viewing by appointment.
I am interested in my great uncle Rfm 1465 Frederick J Gobell, 12th Londons "The Rangers", kia, 1.7.1916 at Gommecourt.
He is on the Beckton Gasworks Memorial and was a pre war territorial, enlisting in 1912, most probably in B Company from Beckton Gas. Unfortunately his service records are burnt at the NA.
If he is referenced in the Co Partners volumes I'd be delighted to know.
Thanks Peter.
Mark
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Mark
I will have a look for you.
It is definitely worth you obtaining all the copies (if you can get the 1917 annual as well it would help here) as there are many photos of recruiting meetings etc.
The memorial photos were submitted to the magazine by the relatives, so a photo isnt always included, but text generally is.
Will be back soon.
Pete.
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Hi Biker,
Great to have stumbled across your thread!
My great grandfather, Harry Young, was an Inspector at G.L. & C. for many years. I see from your list of photos that you have something about his eldest son, Victor Harry YOUNG (my great uncle). Victor was killed in action, aged 20 yrs, at the Second battle of Ypres, in Belgium, 23rd April 1915, serving with Queen Victoria's rifles. The Germans launched a chlorine gas attack at Ypres on 22nd April, 1915, its first use on the Western front, and it seems likely that Victor was involved in that infamous battle.
I would very much appreciate any info/pics you might have.
Keep up the good work!
Mat
(Image below is of a 1914 Star, such as the one awarded posthumously to Private Young)
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Pete, maybe you can help me out re. Victor H YOUNG? (see post above?) Many thanks in advance.
Photo below shows his name at Menin Gate Memorial, and also the name of David VANRYN who features in this interesting BBC article from the same battles: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4951664.stm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/426610_10151188336381756_1589127665_n.jpg)
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I've pm'd you some info, but as an afterthought - your great uncle was not killed in a chlorine gas attack, he died in a bitter hand to hand fight for a hill which was defended succesfully by an understrength company - their officer was awarded the VC for this action.
Pete
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Many thanks for your input Pete. I look forward to reading more. Are you referring to Hill 60?
Mat.
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Yes, that's the one.
Your next task is to identify the hill!
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I am interested in my great uncle Rfm 1465 Frederick J Gobell, 12th Londons "The Rangers", kia, 1.7.1916 at Gommecourt.
Hi Mark,
Saw this and wondered if you'd found anything yet. Thanks to Pete, I have been able to have a look at Vols 4 & 5, and came across a reference to Gobell F.J. on page 229 of Vol. 4 (1914). He is listed in the Company's Men with Colours from Beckton Gas Works: Occupation: Fitter's Lab. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment: 12th County of London.. (P.229).
I will keep my eyes open in case I come across anything further (photo, letter. etc.), and let you know.
Mat
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And if you did get the 1917 series, can I have a copy please?
Pete
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Hi I am new on here I want to ask biker999 if he has in his book anything about JT diaper who worked for the gas company and is named on one of their memorials
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Hi
Bikers post was 11 years ago, not sure he is on here now?
I think I still have the reference discs with the magazines on, will see if I can locate them.
Pete
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Is surname Diaper, or Draper?
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Is surname Diaper, or Draper?
Hi surname is diaper but could be misspelt. He died 1917 any help would be really appreciated
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Ok,
Have you checked the cwgc site for info?
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He isn't on cwgc, so we need to know a little more, do you have any further info.
There is one 1917 death for Albert Cecil Diaper - thats an usual surname, possibly related?
I dont have the 1917 magazines unfortunately, but there was a booklet published for the companies memorial service, will see what it contains.
What else do you have?
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Hi
I was at passendaele this weekend he is on cwgc site as kia. Died there and memorial at Tyne cot, as no body found. Details I have are John Thomas diaper private, 253604, 3rd battalion London regiment. Attached 7th btn royal fus. Died 30th October 1917. His Children put in home when he died. So I am trying to find a photo of him. I know he worked for the gas company and his name is on one of their memorials in London...Brentford I think. Thank you for any assistance Alison
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Ok, I looked but he didnt come up.
I dont have any 1917 annuals, but possibly Mat got them, its a while back so cant remember - try messaging on here, its mrmizu from earlier in this thread.
Pete
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Thanks Pete
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Hi Chamber, just wondering if you were enquiring about my grandfather Snow Blagburn Tallantyre? He was a chemist, and inventor.
Brittany
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What does this mean?
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Cross posted I think, on wrong thread.
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Brentford has been re generated & a lot of its history has been lost .However several of the local war Memorials & plaques for bulldozed church's & companys have been re installed in the grounds of Brentford Library you might like to give them a call I don't know if James is still there he was of great help to me a few years back he also worked at the history center in Hounslow Library
Brentford Library = 02085608801 Hounslow =08454562800
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Jane that’s marvellous thank you I will contact him. Kind regards Alison
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Richoooonda
I think your post about your grandfather addressed to Chamber was related to his/her post back in 2009 (on page 6 of the thread). He/she hasn't been on the site since March 2012 so if you don't get a response, try a personal message.
MaxD
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Thanks MaxD. Not used to this. :)
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Jane that’s marvellous thank you I will contact him. Kind regards Alison
I can confirm that the Memorial for Brentford Gas, Light & coke company for both wars is now as I thought situated outside ' Brentford also identical tablets are @ the former sites in Fulham & Bromley -by-bow .
not far under 600 names are on the list for W.W.1 according to the Royal British Legions Middlesex roll of honours list Diaper J.T. being amongst them I can take a drive there over the next few days & get a few photos if you like .
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If you could post them on here as well please :)
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If you could post them on here as well please :)
Yes I will do in the meantime if you google Brentford war memorial's it will give you a list of the main one & added ones that have been re sited there if you click on the second on down= MIDDLESEX ROLL OF HONOURS LIST it will open up with a full list of the names & in some an added info part ,through this you can open up memorials in other towns (Sorry for the long explanation but I am not a technical sort of person)
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Hi new to this forum. My husband found a brown small bag in a wall cavity in Broadway Market and on it it says the gas light and coke company.
Attached a pic. Not sure if it’s interests anybody?