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I am looking for anyone who may have a connection to the JOY family in Brenchley, Kent. I have shown a brief outline of my connection to the JOY line and hope to find someone who can help me extend my family tree.
Regards
Mike
New Zealand
Descendants of George Joy
1 George JOY b: Abt. 1607 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism: 27 Jan 1647/48 Brenchley, Kent, England
.. +Dorothy MOYCE b: Bef. 15 Dec 1611 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism 1: 15 Nov 1611 Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism 2: 15 Dec 1611 m: 22 Aug 1633 in Brenchley, Kent, England Father: John MOYCE Mother: Mary HOSMER
..... 2 John JOY b: Bef. 07 Apr 1634 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism: 07 Apr 1634 d: Bef. 22 Apr 1634 in Brenchley, Kent, England Burial: 22 Apr 1634
..... 2 William JOY b: Bef. 01 Feb 1634/35 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism: 01 Feb 1634/35 Christening: 01 Feb 1633/34 Brenchley, Kent, England Burial: 01 Jun 1671
..... 2 Elizabeth JOY b 1: Bef. 25 Feb 1637/38 in Brenchley, Kent, England b 2: 1637 Baptism: 25 Feb 1637/38 Christening: 25 Feb 1636/37 Brenchley, Kent, England
..... 2 Mary JOY b: Bef. 10 May 1640 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism: 10 May 1640 Christening: 10 May 1640 Brenchley, Kent, England
......... +Edward BOTTING b 1: Bef. 19 Jun 1642 in Brenchley, Kent, England b 2: 1653 Baptism: 19 Jun 1642 Christening: 27 Dec 1653 Brenchley, Kent, England m 1: 25 Jul 1665 in Brenchley, Kent, England m 2: Abt. 1671 in Brenchley, Kent, England Father: Gilbert BOTTYN Mother: Esther LEFFORD
............ 3 Elizabeth BOTTING b: Bef. 29 Apr 1666 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism: 29 Apr 1666 Brenchley, Kent, England
............ 3 Thomas BOTTING b 1: Bef. 05 Jan 1666/67 b 2: 05 Jan 1675/76 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism: 05 Jan 1666/67 Brenchley, Kent, England
................ +Susannah BORESTEAD b: Unknown m: Abt. 1705 in Brenchley, Kent, England
............ 3 Mary BOTTING b: 13 Jan 1668/69 Baptism: 30 Jan 1668/69
............ 3 Dorothy BOTTEN b 1: Bef. 07 Sep 1673 in Brenchley, Kent, England b 2: 1660 in Kent, England Baptism: 07 Sep 1673 Christening: 07 Sep 1763 Brenchley, Kent, England d 1: Abt. 19 Jan 1753 in Brenchley, Kent, England d 2: 20 Jan 1754 in Brenchley, Kent, England Burial 1: 20 Jan 1753 in Brenchley, Kent, England Burial 2: 20 Jan 1753
................ +Thomas KING b: Bef. 21 Aug 1664 in Brenchley, Kent, England Baptism: 21 Aug 1664 Christening: 21 Aug 1664 Brenchley, Kent, England m: Abt. 1692 in Brenchley, Kent, England d: Dec 1733 in Brenchley, Kent, England Father: Robert KING Mother: Elizabeth INGE
..... 2 John JOY b: Bef. 20 Aug 1643 Baptism: 20 Aug 1643
..... 2 Robert JOY b 1: Bef. 24 Apr 1650 in Brenchley, Kent, England b 2: 1649 Baptism: 24 Apr 1650
......... +Mary WILSON b 1: Abt. 1650 in Horsmonden, England b 2: Abt. 1650 in England m: 31 Dec 1676
............ 3 Martha JOY b 1: 24 Feb 1675/76 in Brenchley, Kent, England b 2: 1680 in Pembury, Kent, England Baptism: 24 Feb 1675/76 Brenchley, Kent, England d: 25 Apr 1740 in Pembury, Kent, England
................ +William MANKTELOW b: 03 Nov 1658 in Pembury, Kent, England m: 24 Jan 1694/95 in Brenchley, Kent, England d: 02 Jun 1748 Father: William MANKTELOW Mother: ?
............ 3 John JOY b: Abt. 1689 in Brenchley, Kent, England
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Hi Mike
I think we corresponded about 10 years ago about the Joy family!
I will have a look and see if I have anything new but I think the stumbling block is the parentage of George Joy as the PRs indicate missing pages and poor record keeping at the time of his baptism/birth. I think George could be the brother of my ancestor John Joy son of William Joy and his wife Elizabeth.
Barbara
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Hello Mike,
My grandfathers sister Alice Watkins married a Harold Joy do you have them in your tree?If so I would be pleased to hear further details.
The Watkins all came from Brenchley.
bulsara
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Hi Bulsara
What timescale are we talking about for Harold and Alice?
I have a lot of info on the Brenchley Joys as my family lived there from about 1600 to the late 1880s and I have followed up quite a few lines.
Barbara
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Hello again
I have a Harold Joy born about 1882 in Brenchley - is he likely? If so, I have quite a lot of information on his ancestors.
Barbara
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Hi Mike
I've noticed that you have the surname Martin as part of your subject line but I can't see any mentioned in your message. I have a few Martins born in Brenchley in my tree. The earliest so far being Robert Martin bapt 10 Jul 1785 who married Sarah Parks 17 Feb 1806 in Brenchley. Do you think there is any connecton?
Regards Genna
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Barbara,
The Alice that I have was born in 1887 so its' quite poss its the right one.I don't know anything about the Joys before then.
Another of my grandfathers siblings married a Larkin,Jemima Elizabeth in 1894
bulsara
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Hi Bulsara
According to Free BMD Harold G Joy married Sep 1910 and an Alice Watkins is also listed with the same reference.
In 1901 he was still living at home with his parents and siblings, in Paddock Wood, and his occupation was Bricklayer - a trade that runs in the Joy family.
What would you like to know about Harold?
Barbara
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Barbara,
Have you any info on him since his marriage?
One of his grandchildren was murdered but I don't know her name.I have very little info on them,my auntie knew more as she was evacuated down to live with them during the war.
Did the Larkin name mean anything to you?
bulsara
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Hi Bulsara
Nothing since the 1901 census unless I can find it on Free BMD. There is a daughter b 1911 - Dorothy A Joy. Certainly had not heard of a murder!
Jemima Larkin I was aware of but no direct connection with my Larkin family as yet. She was one of the Brenchley Larkins whereas my lot are from Cranbrook and then Horsmonden. All the places are quite close of course so there may be a connection somewhere. I understand that some of the Brenchley Larkins emigrated to Australia and changed their surname to Thomas - just to make life difficult.
Barbara
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Barbara,
I know there were 3 daughters,Dolly,Betty and Megan,wish I could find out more.Maybe one day.
bulsara
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Have just been googling and found this
The First World War poet Siegried Sassoon was born in Matfield and the village was the setting for one of Kent's more spectacular murders during WW2. In 1940, Dorothy, wife of Walter Fisher, and their daughter Freda were shot to death in a orchard immediately behind Crittenden Cottage, just outside the village. Their housemaid, Charlotte Saunders, was also found dead inside the house
Thought it might be interesting as Matfield is close to Paddock Wood, the timing is about right and the name Dorothy occurs - may be worth following up!
Barbara
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Barbara,
Have sent you a pm
bulsara
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Hi Barbara. It is great to hear from you again. I would be most greatful if you can add anything to my tree. I must admit I have been a little distracted by some of the other branches of my tree.
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Hello Mike,
My grandfathers sister Alice Watkins married a Harold Joy do you have them in your tree?If so I would be pleased to hear further details.
The Watkins all came from Brenchley.
bulsara
I'm afraid that these names don't appear on my tree (yet) but they very well could in the near future.
Mike
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Hi Mike
I've noticed that you have the surname Martin as part of your subject line but I can't see any mentioned in your message. I have a few Martins born in Brenchley in my tree. The earliest so far being Robert Martin bapt 10 Jul 1785 who married Sarah Parks 17 Feb 1806 in Brenchley. Do you think there is any connecton?
Regards Genna
Hi Genna. I do have quite a bit of data for my MARTIN branch
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my martin family comes from brenchley any connection
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Hi there from the Colonies!!
If you can send me your direct email address I will send you a copy of everything I have so far on my MARTIN tree, including some old photos - there is too much to put everything on this website.
My email address is *
I would love to see where you fit in to my tree.
Regards
Mike Hobbs
Wellington
New Zealand
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Hello, I just found your messages about the Joy family of Brenchley, and wonder if my ancestor Elizabeth Joy, who died in 1747 just after the birth of her first and only child with Francis Ashdown, might be connected? Thanks.
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Hi there. It is great to hear from you. I can't find your Elizabeth Joy on my tree, but if you can send me a direct email to (*) I will send you a copy of what I have. There will be a connection there somewhere.
I also have the name Ashdown on my tree - they married into my Botting/Botten branch. I will send you a copy of that as well.
Hope to hear from you again soon.
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Mike
Wellington
New Zealand
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Hi Kells
I have quite a lot of information on the Joy family from Brenchley and am sure I have something on Elizabeth and Francis Ashdown.
I will get back to you!
Barbara
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Barbara - just stumbled across this thread and was very interested to read what you'd written some years ago when it started, about the 3 murders at Crittenden Cottage, Matfield, one of whom was the maid, a Charlotte Saunders.
My Saunders lot were from Brenchley and one or two lived in Matfield, so I'm off to do a bit of sleuthing to see if there might be a connection!
Will let you know if I find anything relevant.
Mrs. T.
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Thank you Mike, it was kind of you to send what you have. Would love to be able to place my family somewhere amongst your tree.
Thank you very much indeed Barbara, I'd be delighted to hear from you if you have anything.
Kelly :)
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Hello Kells
I have dug out my papers and have a little information on Elizabeth.
These notes were made a long while ago when I first bought the Brenchley PRs on microfiche and they need confirming.
Elizabeth Joy d Robert bap18 Oct 1724
Elizabeth Joy married Francis Ashdown27 Nov 1746
Elizabeth Ashdown bur 13 Sept 1747
Elizabeth Ashdown bap 6 Sept 1747
Elizabeth Ashdown married John Manwaring 5 May 1767
I am fairly sure that Francis remarried and had more children but have no record of that.
In my notes I put together some tentative family groupings and my hypothesis was that
Elizabeth Joy was the daughter of Robert Joy (bur 1770) and Frances Mercer(bur 1765) who married
23 March 1715/16 in East Farleigh.
Robert Joy was bap 26 Sep 1685 and was the son of Robert Joy and his wife Mary Wilson.
This Robert Joy was the son of John Joy and Margaret Cloute.
John Joy was my 9x great grandfather through his son William.
One of my "to do " jobs is to review all this early work that I did but, as I know that the Kent FHS are producing transcripts of the Brenchley PRs on CD ROM shortly, I have deferred it. Will be a bit easier on my eyes than the fiche!
If there is anything else I might be able to help with do ask.
Mrs T
I had totally forgotten about that murder! Do please report back.
Barbara
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Hello Barbara,
Thank you ever so much, what a wonderful lot of information, much appreciated. I will tentatively add the names you have given me as a possible ancestry for Elizabeth Joy. Francis Ashdown did indeed remarry and have more children with Jane Austen.
I wonder if perhaps I should get my own copy of the Brenchley PR's as I have so many families from there, I wonder would the Kent FHS sell to the public (non-members) and send outside the UK? Might help me confirm all the family lines I am trying to follow which is hard to do from Australia.
Thanks again,
Kelly.
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Hello Kells
Glad to be of help.
Kent FHS do sell to non members. Here is a link to their website
http://www.kfhs.org.uk/index.htm
They will post information on there when the new CD is ready.
What other families do you have in Brenchley?
Barbara
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Hello Barbara,
Thank you for the link, I will take a look.
I have several Brenchley names, Ashdown and Joy were much further back in my tree, and I also have Diamond, Manwaring, Fuggle, Gibbons, Sudell, Crundwell, Huggett, Peerson, and Davie (in no order). I have been told there is an entry in the Brenchley PR's for John Dimonde, from whom all the Diamond's in Brenchley came. The Diamonds and Manwarings often married cousins, so I have the same ....xG-Grandparents more than once, makes for an interesting tree! Sudell had origins in Romney, Christopher Sudell came to Brenchley as a doctor. Most of my info is scant, and given to me by others. I have never seen entries other than what can be found in the IGI.
Thanks for all of your help.
Kelly.
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Thanks Kelly
Some familiar names there from my browsing of the Parish Registers. No links with my family names as far as I can see though apart from Elizabeth Joy.
Barbara
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Kia ora Mike
I am new to this, and just stumbled across this site today. My great great grandfather John King took his family to New Zealand in 1874. His wife was Matilda Ann, and I think she was a Joy, and I think they were married in 1862. Does she fit into your picture somewhere?
Steve
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Hi Mike, Barbara
I have only recently become aware of my Brenchley ancestry. I believe I am descended from Robert Joy b1621 son of William (1595-1624) and Elizabeth (1595-1662). There are one or two somewhat dodgy links in the chain; I am trying to work on them.
Regards
Graham
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HI Graham and welcome to Rootschat :)
Good to find another Joy researcher as there don't seem to be many of us.
I am descended from William and Elizabeth through their son John. Where did you get their birth dates from please? A William Joy was baptising children in Brenchley from 1601 from memory.
Do let me know more about your descent from Robert and I will see what I have.
Barbara
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Hi Barbara
I'm still a bit new to working at this level (before 1837). I am using ancestry.com.au and my Goodman family tree is a public member tree. My dates info has come from other public member trees. Initially, I got very excited when I found Brenchley, which to me is like a fossil cave of ancestors; just amazing. I have taken facts from other member trees and the combined ancestry tree (I haven't got the name quite right there). I am now trying to firm up the roof of my fossil cave mine (I love analogies) with sources, working back from firm facts that I can confirm. Tonight (in Alice Springs, where I live) I have joined the Kent Family History Society and I plan to order their Cd 34 which has the Brenchley records in it.
For me, the Joy family marries into the Kings, and thence later to the Cuddingtons in Barming in about 1800.
I am coming to Kent next week and hope to do some actual fieldwork.
Regards
Graham
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Hi Graham
I am glad you have realised that you need to check what you find on other trees against the records :) Some trees are well researched but others are not good at all!
I am a member of KFHS and the CD you mention is very useful.
It looks as though your Robert and my John were brothers. I have a possible marriage of Robert to Mary Cloute. Mary's sister was Margaret Cloute who maried my John Joy. My John was a mason.
I am sure I have come across a link with the King family in my line too. Maybe through the Playfoot/Splayfoot/Playford family. I will have to check.
I hope you have a really good trip to Kent. Brenchley church is well worth a visit. You will see the inscription "W A Joy 1787" on the outside of the church tower. I have to check the records but believe this was when the tower had to be repaired and I think the 2 builders were William Joy my 5 x great grandfather and his brother Alexander.
Barbara
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Hi
I have just found this posting.
Mary Joy and Edward Botting are my 8 x great grandparents.
It would be great to have contact with any relatives.
jbj63
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Hi
Those names ring bells! Can you give me some dates please and I will look at my records.
There is definitely another researcher interested in Botting but I can't remember whether she is a member of this forum or whether I have discussed the family with her on the Kent Family History mail list. I will check.
Barbara
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Those names ring bells! Can you give me some dates please and I will look at my records.
Hi Barbara
I have only just researched back that far.
I don't have any dates for Edward Botting and Mary Joy, but their daughter Dorothy (my 7 x great grandmother was born 1673 in Brenchley. She married Thomas King but I have been unable to find a marriage record.
Jbj63
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Hello again
I expect you have the marriage of Edward to Mary on 25 July 1665 and the baptisms of their children from 1666 to 1678.
I can only see one burial that might relate to this family in Brenchley, Edward on 2 Jan 1679. This could be the son Edward (bap 19 March 1675) but I think it is more likely to be an adult as there is no mention in the register of him being a child or "the son of". Other entries around this date definitely indicate child burials. It could be the burial of Edward married to Mary in which case you might want to look for a second marriage for Mary.
I don't have any definite information on Mary Joy's origins I am afraid.
I will check my notes again and let you know if I find anything else.
Barbara
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I knew that I had seen something more on this family!
I have found some correspondence I had back in 1998 about marriages between the King and Playfoot/ford family (another of my ancestral lines) with a descendant of John King who married Elizabeth Heasman in 1808. The researcher also mentioned his link to the Joy family through the marriage of Edward Botting and Mary Joy and their daughter Dorothy. It was, unfortunately, just a passing reference so it does not throw any light on the origins of Mary and Edward.
Barbara
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Edward Botten/Botting was the son of Gilbert Botting and Esther Harblet nee Lefford. I have been unable to find the birth of Gilbert Botting anywhere. I think there are gaps in the Brenchley records in the early 1600s.
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Hi all, here's my first message to the site - I'm VERY new to this!
I'm descended from the Joys of Brenchley - specifically from Ada (Adah?) Flora Joy b. 1849, who is my great-great-grandmother. She's one of many daughters of James Albert Joy (b. 1819 Brenchley) and Mary Clara Prendergast (b. 1816 London) who lived in Great Wadd Farm near Staplehurst in Kent. James Albert Joy was the son of Thomas Joy (b. 1769 Brenchley). Hope that means something to someone!
Ada Flora Joy married Alfred Wilkinson (b. 1848 Herne Bay); their grandson Kenneth (b. 1915 Herne Bay) migrated to Argentina where my Dad was born. Dad then came to Australia where I was born and where I still am.
I'm quite curious about finding other relations, would love to get in touch with anyone who knows anything about what happened to all the brothers and sisters of Ada Flora Joy:
- Edward Alfred Guyon Joy b. 1844
- Ernest James Mace Joy b. 1845
- Algernon de Blaquiere Joy b. 1847
- William Horace Joy b. 1847
- Clara Joy b. 1851
- Jabez Thomas Minto Joy b. 1851 (then married Alfred Wilkinson's sister Harriet)
- Laura Marianne Joy b. 1853
- George Langford Joy b. 1854
- Kate Joy b. 1854
- Minnie Elizabeth Maria Joy b. 1856
- Jon Guyon Joy b. 1858
- Henry de Beaufre Joy b. 1861
Cheers
Fiona
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Hi Fiona and welcome to Rootschat :)
I do have some information on this branch of the Joy family but will need to check what that is!
I am descended from another branch but have collected details of many Joys in Kent especially those with a link to Brenchley.
I will get back to you.
Barbara
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Hi again Fiona
I am afraid I don't have a lot of information on the descendants of James Albert although I have found marriages for most of his children and identified a number of grandchildren.
I have baptism and burial details for Thomas Joy, James' father and some notes on his ancestors that need more verification.
I am also sure I have a record of the MI for Mary Clara Prendergasts mother but need to get out another file.
Let me know what you are interested in.
Barbara
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Hi Fiona
This is the inscription I found in the Baptist burial ground at Matfield.
Marianne Prendergast wife of J L Prendergast of Ireland d of Captain Henry William and Martha Guyon of Hampstead died 9 July 1857 aged 83.
Barbara
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Hi,
I'm new to RootsChat -- I found the site while researching my great-great grandfather, Ernest James Mace Joy. He married Elizabeth Hickmott & they emigrated to the US with their son, Harold. They had 10 more children after moving to the US.
Kris D
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Hi Kris and welcome to Rootschat.
I have not linked your Joy family with mine as yet but feel sure they will connect somewhere. I would be interested to know when Ernest and family emigrated and to have more information about his marriage and children as I am trying to keep track of the Joy families that lived in or near Brenchley.
Barbara
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Hi Barbara,
Thanks for your response! I have used Ancestry.com for most of my research regarding the Joy family. According to the records I've been able to find, Ernest James Mace Joy was born to James Albert Joy and Mary Clara Prendergast in Maidstone, 1845. It looks like the family then moved to Brenchley. Ernest married Elizabeth Hickmott in April 1866 (in Cranbrook?), and they emigrated to the US in 1867 with their infant son, Harold. Several more children were born after the family settled in Akron, Ohio (Rufus, Lionel, Oliver, Herman, Eli, Bessie Clora, Laura, Minnie, James and Eunice). Their son Harold was my great grandfather. His daughter Josephine was my father's (Harry) mother.
Kris
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Thanks Kris.
If there is anything I may be able to help with do let me know.
Barbara
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Hi Fiona
I randomly saw your posting while I was Google historical back ground of my house.
I have lived at Great Wadd Farm in Frittenden since 2004, home of a couple of generations of Joy (Formerly known as Wadd Farm until around 1910 - there is now another newer Wadd Farm locally).
I have found Albert Joy popping up on the census when I did some research following some restoration work, during which I found an envelope addressed to Albert Joy, postmarked 1870 (Victorian penny red post). It had been folded and tucked into a gap between two beams in the garret of the house.
I'm currently selling the house and the envelope is pressed in book in a packing crate somewhere. When I find it I'm happy to send it to you as a family heirloom if you would like?
The house is amazing and you can get a picture of what it might have been like for Albert to live there is you look at the sale particulars on the Rightmove website. Prior to Albert it was known to be the residence of Beasley (notorious member of the Hawkhurst gang) and was said to be haunted by the ghost of Beasley until is was exorcised in the late 1800's - perhaps at the instigation of the Joys?
Mark
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Hello everyone. I am researching the Joy family, which apparently has some deep roots in Kent.
The oldest ancestor I have some solid information for is an Alexander Joy, born Jan 23, 1820, in Brenchley. He was a bricklayer and for a while a publican. Wife's name was Elizabeth , and they had 4 children, including Sarah (b. 1843 Tunbridge), my great-great grandmother.
I believe Alexander's parents were also named Alexander and Elizabeth (not a lot of variety in those days, was there?), but at this distance my information becomes sparse.
It would be great if I could go back a few more generations. Does anyone have any hints?
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Hi Geoff
Alexander is connected to my Joy family and was the son of Alexander Joy and Elizabeth Warrener. Alexander senior was the brother of my 5 x great grandfather William Joy.
I have the will of the older Alexander who died in 1840 and details of the siblings of your Alexander as well as his descendants.
Will check out what I have a bit later today. It is some time since I looked at my Joy family.
Which child of Sarah Joy are you descended from?
Great to find a Joy relative even if somewhat distant!
Barbara
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Hi Barbara,
Thanks for that info, it's been a bit of a slog with this branch of the family, great to have a breakthrough.
Sarah Joy had a son, apparently before marriage (very naughty in those days!), John Thomas Joy. His son, John Thomas Jr, was the father of my mother.
Cheers
Geoff
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Hi again Geoff
Sarah had 3 children before she married Joseph Russell on 18 July 1873 in Brenchley, Kent. Illegitimacy was not so uncommon then. Your John Thomas Joy had an older brother Henry William who also married a Dolding and an older sister Elizabeth Ann who was baptised in Brenchley on 10 August 1862. I haven't found baptisms for the 2 boys. Sarah was buried in Brenchley 12 July 1901.
Sarah was the daughter of Alexander Joy and Elizabeth Underdown and was baptised on 16 April 1843 at Brenchley. Her parents married on 30 January 1842 in Brenchley.
Alexander was born 23 January 1820 in Brenchley. His parents were Alexander Joy a bricklayer and Elizabeth Warrener who was the daughter of John Warrener a Carrier. They had married in Brenchley on 2 November 1802.
Alexander senior was baptised in Brenchley on 13 June 1779 and was the son of William Joy and his wife Sarah variously called Splayfoot/Playfoot and variants. She signed Splayfoot on her marriage record of 21 February 1770.
I hope this is something to be going on with. Let me know what else you want. Of course, this is my own research so you should satsify yourself that my findings are correct.
So your ancestor was John Thomas Joy born 1891 the son of John Thomas and Ellen Celia Dolding? I can see him in the censuses up to 1911 and would love to know what happened after. He seems to have had a lot of siblings!
Barbara
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Yes, John had a lot of brothers and sisters. I guess he strayed from the bricklaying profession, and tried other endeavors. He served in the first world war, in Egypt and Palestine, Royal Cyclist Corp. He later helped run his father's grocery business in Tunbridge and Enfield. He married in 1915. He also had an artistic ability, and worked in display and advertising, particularly after the crash in 1929. Family lore has it that he designed the Pelican logo for the Guinness brewing company, but not certain of that. This info from my aunt, John's older daughter.
I posted a picture of John and his parents on the North West Kent Family History Society website, where I was also inquiring recently.
We plan on visiting Kent this September (from Canada), so I hope to poke around some of the places my ancestors tread.
Thanks for all the help.
Geoff
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Hi Geoff
Thank you for that information.
My grandfather's half sister emigrated to Canada after WW1 and I have recently tracked my husband's 3 x great grandfather and his second family from Norfolk, England to Clark, Durham County, Ontario.
Back to the Joy family - Alexander and his wife Elizabeth Underdown had 6 children in total all baptised in Brenchley between 1843 Sarah and the twins Alfred and Edwin in 1856. You can now confirm mother's maiden name in the GRO index by registering at this site
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
It is free.
As you have a lot of Brenchley interests you may find it worthwhile to invest in CD 34 produced by the Kent FHS as it has transcripts of the Parish Registers.
https://www.kfhs.org.uk/shop-cd
I hope you have a great time when you come to the UK. Would volunteer to meet up with you in Kent but as I live in Cornwall and am heading into Norfolk for some research in September unfortunately that won't be possible.
Brenchley church is well worth a visit and there is an inscription on one of the external walls "W A Joy 1787" which I believe relates to our Joy family who seem to have been masons/builders/bricklayers for generations. When I get to the Kent Archives in Maidstone next I want to check the churchwardens accounts as they should give details of payments for the maintenance of the church.
I have photos of the inscription and of the church. If you would like copies let me have your email address by personal message and I will send them to you. Please don't put you email address on the open forum.
I have traced the Joys back to about 1600 in Brenchley although I do need to verify some of the links. It gets trickier the further back you go of course as the Parish Register information is sparse and needs to be cross referenced with other parish records if possible.
Let me know if I can help with anything more. I have accumulated quite a lot of information since I started my research.
Barbara
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Thanks for all that Barbara. I certainly intend to visit the church in Brenchley, and take some photos of my probable ancestors handiwork. Will also check out those other resources.
Cheers
Geoff