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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: KathMc on Friday 14 July 06 19:35 BST (UK)
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I'm wondering if anyone can tell me anything about Doocastle. I believe my ggg grandfather was superintendent in the 1820s. His name was William Francis Davey and he was married to Mary McNulty. They were from Sligo. My gg grandmother, Mary Davey, was born in County Mayo while William was the superintedent. I have read a little about it and Joseph Mor McDonnell (not flattering about him, for sure) and I would love to get more information. Thanks.
Kathleen
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Doocastle is on the Sligo/Mayo border. If you are looking for information a good place to look would be baptism and marriage records of the parish of Curry, Co. Sligo. Also check out the 1901 census.
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Thanks for this. I am still trying to learn all of the geography of the place and this is extremely helpful. We knew another gg grandfather was born in Curry, but didn't realize it was so close to Doocastle, which could lead to a connection between the two families in Ireland. We always assumed they met in the States.
Kath
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Hello Kathleen,
Here's a link to photographs of the Doocastle area ... they include a photo of the Memorial for the Musicians of Doocastle and another of the National School in the 1930s. www.castlebar.ie/photos/the-west/doocastle/glry
Christopher
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Thanks so much Christopher. It is great to see pix of where my ancestors might have walked. Someday maybe I will get there.
Kath
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Hi Everyone. Thanks to the person who posted a link to the Monument Stone dedicated to the musicians of Doocastle. I'm honoured to see that two of my uncles are inscribed on the dedication: Martin and Denny McCoy.
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KathMC:
My mother's family (Mannion) is from the same area, and she has cousins named Davey. The farthest back I can tell you is Owen Davey of Hartford, CT, who was on the Fire Department. He had a daughter named Mary who is still alive. Any connection? Thanks.
Rich
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Frankeen:
I also have my grandfather, John Mannion, named on the monument, as well as a few other names of possible relatives. Do you have any idea of how the names were chosen? He was killed about 1936 in New York City in an auto accident when my mother was still quite young. Growing up, we knew that he played the fiddle, but I was quite shocked when my mother showed us the picture with his name on it. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Rich
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KathMc
I have a fair bit of information on Doocastle my wife and I visit there every 3 years or so.
It is where my father's and grandfather's origins lie.
my family name is Keleher(family speak says the spelling with a single L is a relation if only it was that easy.)
My good friend Shay McGowan's mother or grandmother was a Kelleher as are a few in Doocastle or Ballindoo as it was originally know
I have a transcript (word format) of the "History of Doocastle" as narated by Martin Francis Kelleher in 1959 a relative of Shay's mother
I also have maps and field numbers of farms within doocastle from the land registry.
I also befriended the local postman (now retired) James O Hara who is a wealth of knowledge though not in the best of health, I have not heard from him for a couple of years.
I'm unsure how forum handles data going to members privately
this is my first post on here
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My family (emigrants to Canada in the 19th century) were Kallaghers from Moylough, just down the road from Doocastle. I think there was a family link to the Kellehers in Doocastle in the distant past, but not for 250 years. I would be very interested to learn about the history of Doocastle and the Kelleher family there.
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if it helps anyone i live just beside doocastle in bunninadden. and regarding the transcript on doocastle, i do believe my grandmother was the person to type it out from the orginal recording :) and i think the people chosen on the monument were just well knowen musicans from the area. i think kallaghers still live in the area of doocastle /moylough. not sure if that would be any help. there are also o'donnels in the area
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Based on the valuation revision lists, it appears that my grandmother was born in 1870 on the site in Doocastle that was later used for the Doocastle National School, probably the same building that is in the 1930 photo. Since Doocastle straddles the line between Mayo and Sligo, can someone tell me whether this location is on the Mayo or Sligo side of the border? Also, can you tell me what is on the site now? I plan to be in the area in June and would like to visit it. Thank you.
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Also, if someone has good knowledge of Doocastle, I would like to know which cemetery or cemeteries would have been used by people there in the period of 1865-1875. My great-grandparents died in Doocastle in that time period. Thanks again.
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Just back from the trip. I was very fortunate to be able to meet second cousins who helped me locate the land my great-grandparents leased in Doocastle. Although there is no proof such as a stone, it is most logical that they were buried in the old section of Kilturra cemetery.
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The names on the Doocastle monument are all deceased musicians of the area. From what I understand, one of the living musicians wanted his name included until he heard that requirement.
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Would love to get a copy of the History of Doocastle if you could help me.
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HI, I have just stumbled on this site whilst showing my son my Mothers family home. My grandparents name was Martin & Nora McGuire. I too would like to get a copy of the history of Doocastle. I was talking to the late Frank Rogers a few years back and I believe he was working on this book (maybe an updated version) but he mentioned Martin Francis Kelleher. My mother (Maureen) always told me tales about Martin the blind singer, song writer and story teller. However I have my mothers song book which she wrote down the lyrics to many of Martins song's. If anybody out there is continuing to work on the book please get in touch and I will pass on a copy of the songs
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Rich, (from 2009)
My GGF and GGM Bartly Mannion and Mary (Gallagher) had a son John, b.@1891; came to NYC, married Maryanne G, had 2 daughters, Dorothy, 11 and Alice, 7 as of 1930 US NYC census. Not sure when John died, might be the same person. Would his name be on the music statue if he left Ireland? Same John, as no age was mentioned. Going to see if I can find a list for Kilturra cem. My GGF was from Cloonakiliny, Kilturra, Swinford on the census in Eire. My other GGP's were Foody, from Castleconor East. My GP's Thomas Mannion and Mary E Foody met and married in 1912 in NYC. They died in 1935 when my dad was very young and he wound up in an orphanage with his brothers. I'm amazed with what I've found so far! Is there a parish to write to, connected to Kilturra? (Bunninadden,maybe?)
Carol
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Carol,
John Mannon's baptismal record might be on LDS Film 1279233 Items 10-11. I'll see if I have it at my local FHC. If I do I'll check it for you. There is a Bartley Mannion family in the 1901 Irish census, but the mother's name is Bridget. They also appear in the 1911 census. Are you sure of her first name?
D-G
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Hi D-G,
So excited to see a reply! You are correct, it is Bridget, that is the correct family. Family history is that all of Bartly's children went to NYC, with the exception of daughter Bridget, who reportedly became a nun. (having trouble finding that). He had 2 other sons, Bartly and Thomas (my GF) who missed the 1901 census, as they came to NYC, late 1890's. In fact, the grandchildren, listed as birthplace NYC, were his kids from a first marriage, wife deceased, childbirth. They show up again on the 1920 US census, as living with him and his second wife in NYC. Upon my dad's death in 1971, my aunt, listed as Mary Anne, provided a complete schematic of each of Bartly's kids, who they married and their kids...but I never knew of any grandparents until now, thanks to 1901, 1911. I still have all of the info. Hope this is a help to you.
Carol
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I have to jump into this conversation. I just read the 2014 All Ireland Fleadh is in Sligo which made me think about the visit I made there ten years ago. Met my relatives Mick and Ann Kearns, cousin to my grandfather Pat Mannion, from Sligo. We visited the stone monument, the musicians of Doocastle and saw John Mannion who I assumed was a relative. Kathleen I would be interested if any of your history sheds more light on the family and if there is a connection.
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Re Doocastle - my boyfriend's mother's family were Hauze. We have been twice to look and met a chap called Martin Kelleher. Any relation? It is really difficult to find out any information but you have found something out? Would be grateful to learn of anything about the area. It is certainly all very spread out - not like England! Martin Kelleher takes the grass from our family fields - but we have no way of proving ownership!
Clare Thorp
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Kathleen
Mary Davey was my gg grandmother as well. She married Tom Costello
Denis Costello Brisbane
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Mary Davey, wife of Thomas Costello was also my GG Grandma, and Martin Costello my G Grandfather. I would love to be in contact with those of you who share her in your family also please!
Kirsty Jones (Brisbane, QLD)
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I'm wondering if anyone can tell me anything about Doocastle. I believe my ggg grandfather was superintendent in the 1820s. His name was William Francis Davey and he was married to Mary McNulty. They were from Sligo. My gg grandmother, Mary Davey, was born in County Mayo while William was the superintedent. I have read a little about it and Joseph Mor McDonnell (not flattering about him, for sure) and I would love to get more information. Thanks.
Kathleen
Hi Kathleen, I am wondering how you found out the parents of Mary Davey? I believe we share her as a gg grandmother, but I have struggled to find evidence of her parents and birth.
Kirsty
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Hi Kirsty
Actually I was wrong, Mary Davey was my great grandmother, your father Martin was my grandfather's John's brother. All this generation seemed to have come to Queensland except one who remained in Ireland. I don't know much about Martin except he died in 1916 and my father, Hugh, thought he died in Africa. We could be way off the mark with this. I believe he had 2 daughters Addine and Irene. Is there ant accuracy in this?
Denis Costello Brisbane
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Wow.
Martin died in Brisbane, of Tuberculosis in 1916. He met and married Clara Deardon in South Africa in 1907/8 and moved to Australia in 1908.
His Daughter Adeline is my grandmother who married John Mcgregor and lived in Enoggera.
Adeline died in 1982.
Irene I have not yet found her children, but I know she and her family lived in High street in Bundaberg.
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Hi Kirsty
Yes, they are the details as I know them. Now I know the South African connection. At least 1916 was correct.
Denis
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I would just like to know if the John Mannion on the rock of Doocastle might be my Great Grandfather's brother. My grandfather came to US in 1892 and settled. It may be his fathers brother. Bartly Mannion was married to a Bridget Gallagher. Swinford. Long story!!.