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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Roxburghshire => Topic started by: icini on Sunday 30 July 06 00:58 BST (UK)
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does anyone know of a John Smith born around 1821 Roxburgh, married to Jane ?? . Children include William, Robert S, Christina, John, and Janet. found on 1851 census, Edinburgh. William, Robert, and John born in England. I think this set are the parents for my Christina Smith born 1849 and married James Duncan 1868 Glasgow. Any help appreciated. Donna
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Have you obtained the marriage record off the website: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
It will narrow down your search for correct parents.
Kind regards
Tees
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I was going to suggest that. The ref for their marriages is Vol 644-7 Page 8 .
John Smith (tailor) is indeed her father and her mother was Jane Mains.
Gadget
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Thank you both so much; if this is the one , another brick down. On the marriage cert for daughter Christina the last name is unreadable. again, thank you. Donna
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Hi Donna!
You are more than welcome! Really, the hat is off to Gadget for getting you a correct reference number. ;D
If you need any help with deciphering the surname on the marriage entry, why don't you try and scan the part where you are having a trouble with?
We may be able to help you out.
OR you can try and get her death record using all the surnames to identify a correct death entry on her.
Just drop a line to let us know.
All the best
Tees
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The surname, as I read it ,was Mains or Mays, I believe as I said in my previous posting. I'll put it up below for you all to read.
Gadget
Another look - it might be Major. Think I'll put it up on the Common Room board
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Hi Donna
I would have to agree with Gadget that it is either Mains or Mays. I am inclined to the surname of Mains.
Or Major...but it does not look like that.
The only way to confirm this is to get the death entry on Christina to make sure what was her maiden surname. Or her siblings' marriage/death entries.
Regards
Tees
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I've put it on the Common Room:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,172713.msg821071.html#msg821071
Gadget
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(as posted in the Common Room earlier) It looks more like like "Marine" to me. I thought it was "Maline" at first but the "l" in tailor is nothing like the letter in question in this word. I hadn't come across "Marine" as a surname before but a quick search on ancestry reveals quite a few people of that name.
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wow , a lot of good efforts on my behalf . Thank you. I do have Christine's death cert but the last name looks totally different- it is longer by about three or four letters- Amourin or something like that. That is why I am trying with daughter's marriage cert- I figured that since the father is not deceased he should know that last name of his bride?! I could not find a Smith/ Mains combo on SP. I will try the others.
I think I found the family on the 1851 census in Edinburgh( where Christina was born). It mentions that three of the children were born in England so I am having my brother-in-law look them up on ancestry.com. I thought it might be possible for them to have married there. I have started searching her siblings now but Smith is so common. One brother - born in England- has the name of Robert S.Smith. that's a little different.
I am interested in tracing through the maternal line as I am trying to follow a book entitled " the Seven Daughters of Eve" in which it discusses mitochondrial DNA( through mother's line) and Jane is stopping me!
Thanks again to everyone for their help. Donna
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Is there any chance of putting a snippet of the death cert up with the mother's name?
Or perhaps, the date of death so that we could have a look.
Gadget
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I'll give it a try. I have never done it before on this site. In case it doesn't work here are the dates of Christina's death. June 28, 1903, age 54. There is a number in the side of the page- 1275 and page number is 435- might not help anything.
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Well it certainly looks like Armour to me. I wonder if the other one is a variation - Maour or something.
She was 19 in 1868 and 54 in 1903 - seems like an age difference as well ???
Gadget
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HI: that's what I thought too. As to age difference I think my female ancestors were a bit vain. In the early censuses they aged maybe 7-8 years then I guess it caught up with them and one of them aged 18 years in a later census! I know they are correct though because of mention of daughter , husband etc. Donna