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Anyone descended from these HERONS of Ireland?
William Cowan HERON lived at Altafort, Skeogh about 3 miles from Dromore and erected the Cowan Heron Hospital there in 1898.
He died at Maryfield ,Holywood, County Down in June 1917.
Prior to this in the 1861 Belfast Street Directory of 1861 there is a John HERON at Maryfield - his father ? In the prospectus of the Belfast & County Down Railway the shareholder list includes John Heron Esq,. Holywood.Director of the Ulster Banking Company.
And who was James HERON, Rosavo, Holywood also in 1861 Belfast Street Directory ?
By 1922 Francis (Frank) Adens Theadore HERON aged 32 is a member of the Indian Police and married to our great aunt Elizabeth Sophia Cameron ROSS at Dalmeny Gardens nr Edinburgh,the home of her brother.
On the marriage certificate of Oct 4 1922 his usual residence is Maryfield, Holywood ,County Down, Ireland and his parents named as Francis Adens Heron ( gentleman !) and Mary Martin Heron nee Smith.
Frank had been posted to Lahore 1913 thenhe and Bessie lived in Delhi or New Delhi where he became the chief of Police.
Any information about these Herons would be much appreciated.
On my searches I found a Francis HERON chief trader of the Hudsons Bay Co, Red River Settlements in Rupertland 12 Aug 1840. Perhaps this can be of help to someone.
Frances,
Inverness.SCT.
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Heron [Co Down] family trees exist in the Blackwood Family history manuscript trees in LinenHall library, Belfast. The Volume references are 23p1 Greenfield, 25, 29, 31, 42T, 45, 75, 86 Reid.
I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if they think your knowledge relevant and be prepared to pay the extra for post and packing. However if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library that is always needing extra funds. Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Telephone: +44 (0)28 9032 1707, Fax: +44 (0)28 9043 8586, Email:info[at]linenhall.com.
Good hunting Jim
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Very grateful for this excellent informaton, Jim. I'm fairly sure Bessie & Frank Heron had no children so a backward look at their line will suffice unless I find them on a UK census or India site.
Cheers,
frances.
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Going through older posts and came across this one. By now you might have been able to find more information but if you haven't done so the following might be of interest.
PRONI now has Will extracts online (www.proni.gov.uk) and searching for Heron + Maryfield brings up 5 items: Sarah Heron d.1867, John Heron d.1870, Mary Heron d.1913, John Heron d.1917, William Cowan Heron d.1917 (the last 2 at least mention a Francis A. Heron). It might be searching just the surname in the extracts and checking all entries.
PRONI also have 1912 Ulster Covenant database (click on link to view signatures).
Another new site is 1911 census for Co. Antrim and Co. Down which were put online (free) a few days ago:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
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Anyone descended from these HERONS of Ireland ?
And who was James HERON, Rosavo, Holywood also in 1861 Belfast Street Directory ?
Dear Fransmoi,
The following may be of interest to you.
James Heron of Rosavo, Cultra, County Down was the second son of John Heron of Maryfield, Holywood, County Down who was the third son of Francis Heron, of Ardigon, Killyleagh, County Down. James, as you correctly mention, was a Director of Ulster Bank. He was baptised 15th. May, 1816, m. 25th. April, 1848, Nerissa Rosavo (ob. 7th. November, 1904), only daughter of Charles Hutton, of Rosavo, County Dublin, ob. 1st. November, 1868, having had issue. Rosavo was eventually sold and in recent times was a nursing home. More recently and sadly it had its name changed to Richmond Private Nursing home.
Yours, etc., Newgent_for_Life.
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Anyone descended from these HERONS of Ireland ?
On the marriage certificate of Oct 4 1922 his usual residence is Maryfield, Holywood ,County Down, Ireland and his parents named as Francis Adens Heron ( gentleman !) and Mary Martin Heron nee Smith.
Dear Frances,
Another piece of information with ref to the above.
Francis Adens Theodore, of Maryfield, Holywood, County Down; DL., JP, b. 26th April 1849, was the son of James of Rosavo. He married 1st. 28th April, 1874, Charlotte Amelia (ob. 18th. July, 1875, aged 22), dr. of John Langtree, of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, and had issue;
1a. Charlotte Amelia, b. 5th. July, 1875; osp. 5th. June, 1945. Francis A.T. Heron m. 2ndly. 1st. August, 1876, Mary ( ob. 15th. October, 1929), dr. of David Smyth, of Jesson, Bengal, and ob. 2nd. May, 1939 having by her had issue as their second son;
2a. Francis Adens Theodore, OBE, Ind. Police Service.
Etc., Newgent.
Frances,
Inverness.SCT.
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Thank you all for such excellent information !
Frank Heron as we knew him and grt Aunt Bessie on their return from India died within months of each other in Scotland. He in Loanhead on 18th Jan 1950 and Bessie while on holiday at my maternal Grandmother's house in Elgin on 24 May 1950. Gran had died and Bessie took the house for a time though their home was in Esher ,Surrey.
Frances.
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An item of passing interest regarding the Francis Heron mentioned in the first posting. It is taken from the Londonderry Sentinel of 25 Apr 1840.
Francis Heron of the Hon. the Hudson Bay Company died at Prospect Hill Co Donegal on the 11th inst.
Mr. Heron Emigrated from Ramelton in 1811 aged 17 years and worked his way up to become proprietor of the Hudson Bay Company. He died in his 40th year leaving a widow and a young family.
There are several Herons mentioned, mainly associated with Presbyterian Ministers.
Regards
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Dear Fransmoi,
Are you aware that the family you are researching in County Down originally came from Galloway. For a complete genealogy family tree refer to Burke's Irish Family Records, 1976 edition. For a broader look at the family, refer to "History of the Lands and Their Owners in Galloway", by P.H. McKerlie, 1878, (vol iv). The Heron lands are near to Wigtown.
Yours, etc., Newgent.
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Some wonderful manuscripts have come to hand regarding the history of the Herons in Ireland from the late 1600s -the full accounts are lodged in the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland, Balmoral Ave, Belfast
Collected by Niall Heron ,Dumurry, Belfast these make fascinating reading and confirm that John Heron emigrated from Newton Stewart ,Galloway in Scotland about a month after the battle of Bothwell Brig 22nd June 1679.
I cannot access a telephone number for Niall and until I write to him I hesitate to copy his work online without his permission.
Watch this space !
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Some wonderful manuscripts have come to hand regarding the history of the Herons in Ireland from the late 1600s
Dear Fransmoi,
If you really want to research the Heron Family in a big way I suggest you refer to the Publick Record Office, Balmoral. They have all the necessary information from c.1254-1960; ref: T/1766;documents including leases, rentals, accounts and correspondence, c. 1725-1940; ref:D/3302. I would imagine the documents you refer to are already common knowledge.
Yours, etc., Newgent.
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Frances,
I saw your posting about Francis Heron of the Hudson Bay co.
wondered if you had if your findings were in any Irish records. Myself and a friend are this Francis Heron -
thanks and regards Carolyn
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I came upon this chap in my search but he does not seem to be related to any of mine.I suspect that he will be mentioned in Hudson Bay records and in an on-line history of the company.I'd wager there are books for sale on line also covering the subject.
You do realise I will be looking for him too now.That's the trouble with genealogy - there are those of us who cannot leave a twig alone and produce bushes rather than trees.!
Good hunting,
Fransmoi.
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Frances,
I saw your posting about Francis Heron of the Hudson Bay co.
wondered if you had if your findings were in any Irish records. Myself and a friend are this Francis Heron -
thanks and regards Carolyn
I am also from this Francis Heron. I am wondering if anyone knows where Prospect Hill is? Is there any information on his family in Ireland? Any help very much appreciated!
Kindest regards,
Leanne
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I believe Prospect Hill was in Londonderry.
I have been away from this for some time, but have done research on Francis Heron of the HBC, some of his children--Edward and Jane Mary in particular.
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Just curious,
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Does this listing have a Robert Heron's son christened in the
Presbyterian April 8, 1700? If so this is the info that I am looking for!
Thank you in advance for your response!
Donna Herren Lively
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hello there!
i have just been reading all this conversation! i am related to francis adens Theodore heron, junior and senior through francis senior's mother nerissa rosavo hutton. if anyone wants to get in touch please reply!! looking forward to hearing more information!!
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Hello cousin ?
My great aunt "Bessie" Cameron Ross married in 1932 " Frank" Adens Theadore Heron O.B.E. Born 1890 at Maryfield House, Holywood,Co. Down, he became a chief of Police in India.They died within months of each other in 1950 and are buried in Edinburgh. Her mother lived there on being widowed and Bessie & Frank were married from her brother Iain Woodman Ross' house New Gardens ,Dalmeny nr Edinburgh. Bessie's other brother ( there were 7 boys and 2 girls ) Errington Ross , Castle Heather ,Inverness .was my grandfather. Frank died in Edinburgh and Bessie died 4 months later on holiday at Southlands, Reidhaven St, Elgin the home of my maternal grandmother Mrs Sowden who had died.Bessie's usual address was given as Esher in Surrey.Hope we have a link .I have a very poor picture of aunt Bessie and would love if someone out there has another I could copy.
Fransmoi.
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sorry fransmoi, we are not cousins i am afraid. i am only related to the herons not the ross's. good to find more info on the herons though!! i never knew that james was director of ulster bank! francis adens heron jnr is my 3rd cousin twice removed.
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I believe that my family may have origins in Ireland. Have you any more information about Nial Heron's manuscripts please.
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I'm a heron trying to trace my family history. I know one of my ancestors James heron born in 1837 and then migrated to New Zealand in 1857 onboard the Indiana. Is this the same herons or different ? We have no other Information before he came from Ireland.
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I’m Donna from Australia. 6th generation Heron from the general merchant and ship owner John Heron 1781-1870 of Queen street Belfast who was the first director of Ulster Banking Company in 1838.
His father was Patrick Heron 1750 -1816 who purchased Ardigon House Killileagii.
John Heron 1781-1870 and Sarah Mathews 1788-1867
Had ten children including William Cowan Heron 1819-1917 and James Heron 1816-1868
James Heron married Nerissa Rosavo Hutton 1824-1924, they had eight children together.
In 1844 James had a liaison with the housemaid Sarah Smith 1828-1885… together they had a boy named James Mathews Heron 1844-1916.
Sarah took her son James to Australia in 1855. The Heron family continued to financially support the boy who was very well educated.
James Mathews Heron met and married Annie Rahilly 1848-1918 in Beechworth Victoria Australia. They had eight children.
One of those eight children was Louis Stanley Heron 1877-1968… he settled with his young family in the outskirts of Melbourne Australia in a seaside town called Seaford.
Louis Heron is my great grandfather, and his daughter Mary Kathleen Heron 1917-2005 is my grandmother.
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Donna from Australia again, 6th generation Heron.
What I believed to be Ardigon house, is actually Tullyveery House Killyleagh Downpatrick.
Or maybe the Herons also owned Ardigon House, of which I cannot find any further details.
Any information would be appreciated please.
I’m not sure if some of the earlier dates are accurate.
See my previous post.
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
" Frank" Adens Theadore Heron O.B.E. Born 1890 at Maryfield House, Holywood,Co. Down
Francis Adens Theodore Heron born 14 June 1890 at The Nest?, Cultra, Co Down.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02433/1906034.pdf
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What I believed to be Ardigon house, is actually Tullyveery House Killyleagh Downpatrick.
Or maybe the Herons also owned Ardigon House, of which I cannot find any further details.
Both Tullyveery House and Ardigon House existed. The townlands of Tullyveery and Ardigon are adjacent to eachother.
Tullyveery townland
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dufferin/killyleagh/killyleagh/tullyveery/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4655408#map=15/54.4155/-5.6828
Ardigon townland to the west
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dufferin/killyleagh/killyleagh/ardigon/
From a 1900-1907 map, Tullyveery House (WNW) and Ardigon House (WSW) of the village of Shrigley.
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Adding this link-
James Heron married Nerissa Rosavo Hutton 1824-1924
Narissa Rosavo Hutton marriage - 25 April 1848 - St James' Parish Church, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1848/09348/5385003.pdf
Her father Charles Hutton, a gentleman.
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Older Heron siblings with MMN Smith-
John James Heron born 25 February 1888.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02530/1937433.pdf
Jane Lang Heron born 13 October 1884.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02672/1984737.pdf
Narissa Rosavo Heron born 20 June 1879.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02910/2066386.pdf
Sarah Frances Heron born 6 June 1877.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03001/2100050.pdf
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I am related to these herons. I have a family tree. If anyone wants to know more, you can contact me. I would love to hear from you.