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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Huntingdonshire => Topic started by: may on Saturday 14 February 04 19:27 GMT (UK)
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Looking for Henson family. Living at Orton Longueville near Peterborough pre 1830.
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Dear May,
The Henson name looks like it originates from Nottinghashire by the 1881 Cenus, showing over 570 people. It is then highley concentrated through leiiceshire 306 and Northampsonshire 354.
Huntingdonshire shows 65.
Sarah :)
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Hannah HENSON (dau of Henry HENSON & Sarah SKILLINGTON), born 1826, in Hickling, Notts, married Thomas EDGSON of Long Clawson, Leics, in 1851.
See my EDGSON ancestry on my website
www.annieg.fsnet.co.uk
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There are several Henson's in the 1881 Census.
3 are resident in Orton Longville with Thomas born there in 1819.
I'm also looking to unravel a Henson mystery .... Elizabeth Henson married William Church.
She appears in 1891 (age 24 b. Godmanchester, Hunts) with widowed mother Sarah (57 b. Holton? Hunts) (nee Sarah Ann Harrop?).
In 1881 Elizabeth is in the Union workhouse Peterborough with William & Susan. Can't find Sarah.
Can't find any of them in 1871.
Anyone help?
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Hi May,
I was interested in your post about the Henson family.
Are these the same Henson's who were married into the NUTT family of Peterborough?I used to know a William Henson who married an Evelyn MOWBRAY .They lived at one time in London Road ,Peterborough .When I knew him they had moved to Alwalton.He died in 1991 aged about 90.
Trisha
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Hello May,
I do not know if this little piece of information will help, but on my husbands side of the family we have gone back to G.G.G.G. Grand father "Thomas Henson". His wife was Ann (Ringrose? we think).
They had a son "Thomas" who married "Alice" (last name unknown). I haven't got all their children but some of them were born in Naseby, Northampton. They could of had a "Thomas" as I have plenty of gaps.
I hope the information help you.
Kind Regards
Children
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Naseby is 32 miles away according to Parloc. I have all my Hensons in Orton Longueville going back to 1780. Are yours before this??
Best wishes
May
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Hi May
Yes my Henson are before 1780. So far I have gone back to 1768 where THOMAS HENSON married ANN RINGROSE.
I dont think our line is connected, but you never know.
I will keep on hunting.
Cheers
Wendy
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Hi Oleg
I have found
William CHURCH married
Elizabeth HENSON
in 1893 in Peterborough
June Quarter 3b 516
.... also ......
Thomas HENSON married
Martha PAWLEY
in 1893 in Peterborough
June Quarter 3b 536
which looks like Elizabeth's marriage, and if she had a brother called Thomas, it looks as though brother & sister were married at the same time.
So, if you're satisfied that this is your Elizabeth, you can order her/their certificate(s) on
www.1837online.com
quoting the infomation above
it will cost you £7.00 and take about 3/6 days
Happy hunting !!
;D ;D ;D
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Hi Oleg this looks them on the 1871 Census
1871 Census
RG10/1526
Duck End
Godmanchester
Huntingdon
William HINSON/Head/30/Labourer/Godmanchester, Hunts
Mary? HINSON/Wife/30/Haughton, Hunts
Elizabeth HINSON/Dau/2/Godmanchester, Hunts
William HINSON/Son/1/Godmanchester, Hunts
Not only has the surname been transcribed wrongly, but Sarah is named as Mary.. Anyhow, it's more than likely that this is your family.
:D :D
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;) ;) ;)
And again Oleg,
I think this kind of proves that the family below is yours !!
William HENSON married
Sarah Ann HARROP
in 1858 in Huntingdon
December Quarter 3b 558
And again, you can send for this certificate as outlined previously.
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Many thanks mobo!
William Church was my great grandfather - we knew he married Elizabeth Henson and had found the ref to the 1893 wedding.
The infuriating thing was the 1871 census - which would also have given the fathers name and lead to the Sarah Ann HARROP marriage! Can't beat a bit of bad transcription to infuriate - no wonder i couldn't find any 2 year olds (+- a bit) born in Godmanchester called Elizabeth or any HENSONS born in the town!!
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Hi Oleg
I was initally attracted to this topic, as I have HENSON'S in my 'tree', but I also have quite a few CHURCH'S (who married into my MORRIS'S). See them on website as the profile below.
REBECCA MORRIS was born August 10, 1845 in Easton, Hunts. She married THOMAS CHURCH 1868 in Easton, Hunts. He was born 1843 in Barham, Hunts. Occupation: Butcher/Grazier.
etc etc. etc.
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I have been to your site and checked the CHURCH's (and Henson's!) just in case there was a link.
There doesn't appear to be an obvious one as yet.
I have CHURCH's in and around the Peterborough area stemming from Peter CHURCH b. 1791 (ish) probably in Bury St.Edmunds - he married Ann COX in 1823.
From these two i have all sorts spreading to Doncaster, Hitchin (females m to PALMER, BEETON & APPLEBY), Croydon (ELSEY), Woolwich, Lincs (MACHIN) as well as those who remained in Peterborough (fem m. to STAINSBY) - but remarkably none in Hunts!
If you come across anyone who fits in with any of the above feel free to send in my direction!!
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I reached this topic by googling Henson - hope someone else may get here the same way. My John Henson was born c1809 in Keyworth and married to Elizabeth Garner c1813. They married 1839 in Wysall. John's father was William, a stockinger, but then I'm stuck.
Does anyone recognise the family - or have any info please?
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What a coincidence!! I have a John Henson born about 1849 married to Elizabeth Garner (born about 1844 Cotterstock, Northants. Children Elizabeth, Thomas and Margaret
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May - these are quite distant relatives of mine. I'm doing this research for my elderly aunt who didn't know much about her family. She was a Henson. And I'm finding so much intermarriage in her family in Nottingham - the same surnames keep cropping up in different branches. So It's possible either your Henson or your Garner are related to mine.
My Hensons seem to have come from Keyworth or Ratcliffe, the Garners from Wysall. Elizabeth Garner's parents were Joseph Garner born 1785 and Sarah Painter 1789. Elizabeth's children were Elizabeth, Sarah, Joseph, William and John. If any of these crop up in your tree I'd love to hear.
I notice you're also researching the Toons - I have a Mary Toon born 1825 who married John Cutts - could this be another coincidence?
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It must be coincidence methinks...... My Toon's are from NW Leics and the Hensons from Huntingdonshire/Leicestershire but there are many coincidences in this game don't you think?
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Don't know - I find they move more or less all over the Notts/Derby/Leics/Warwickshire area. My Mary Toon I think came from Ratcliffe but certainly lived and had all her children in the All Saints area of Leicester. Oddly, she was married in coventry. Joseph, her father, was a carpenter. If you come across them in your searches I'd be grateful to know.
Hope you're lucky with your Hensons.
Lesley
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My HENRY HENSON, (Schoolmaster) b.c. 1800, married SARAH SKILLINGTON.
Their daughter
HANNAH HENSON, was born August 13, 1826 in Hickling, Notts. She married THOMAS EDGSON April 6, 1851 in Harby, Notts, son of WILLIAM EDGSON and ELIZABETH CHAMBERS. He was born 1831 in Long Clawson, Leics.
They had a family and lived in Long Clawson, Leicester.
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Hi,
the parents of Thomas HENSON-b.1871 in Peterborough who was married to a Martha PAWLEY who has been previously mentioned were;-
William HENSON and Anne Eliza SLATER.They married at Crowland Abbey on the 4th Sept 1853.
William HENSON was born on 11 May 1831 at either Little Beltham,Leics or Littleworth,Rutland.He later went onto become the landlord of 'The China Cup' in Eastgate,Peterborough.
Anne Eliza SLATER was born in Wisbech on the 8th Sept,possibly in 1832.
Their other children besides Thomas were;-
Elizabeth Rebecca-b.c 1856 in Crowland.She married 1/Thomas NUTT 2/Joseph BURTON
Susannah-b.c.1857.She married a John Thomas FOVARGUE.
George-b.c.1860
Interestingly ,Thomas HENSON married twice to 2 sisters.His 1st wife Martha died in 1913.They had 3 children,Elizabeth Rebecca(Lalla),Anne Maud and John William(Billy).
He then married Martha's sister Emma.The only child of theirs that I know of was called Thomas,although confusingly he was always known as Peter.
Hope all this helps someone,
Trisha :) :) :)
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I'm searching for Thomas HENSON as well and the last post looks very coincidental
I'm looking for my GGGGrandfather Thomas HENSON Father of my GGGrandmother Rebecca born:abt 1821 - her birth place is Gidding huntindonshire in the 1851 census (her age in 1851 was 30) but the only likely candidate I can find in the IGI is Rebecca born in Glatton christened:1823 father Thomas mother Catherine ( I can find two other children Eleanor (born in Glatton ch:1817) and Alice (born in Great Gidding ch:1828). Glatton and the Gidding's are really close together so I guess this may be a good match.
Rebecca lives in Cowbit lincolnshire in 1851 and Married Michael GILDROY ( his surname is spelled in many different ways) in Cowbit in 1844. (they were very difficult to find in the 1851 due to transcription errors and typically were on the last page so I had to scan the whole of crowland and cowbit before I found them.) Michael died in 1849 and rebecca is down as a widow in the 1851 census. I was lucky in unlocking this element via a new lincolnshire site with lincolnshire marriage records including maiden names and Fathers names.
Cowbit is the next village to Crowland and her Daughter Mary puts Crowland as her place of birth in later years although she is clearly in Cowbit in 1851 aged 2.
Interestingly Rebecca had a visitor in the house in 1851 a Thomas Henson who was also 30 year old he states his birthplace as Glapthorn Hunts.
The Marriage of William in Crowland might be a coincidence but I wonder if this is the same family - any chance we have a link?
I also note that the names Thomas and Rebecca are coincidentally in your tree
can you see any linkages
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Hi Stuart,
I think there is some possible connection but there are quite a few HENSON's around that area so it may not be too close.I'll go and have a look at my notes on the Hensons and see if I can work it out.I'll get back to you very soon.
Trisha :) :)
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Hi Stuart,
I've had a look at my notes and it seems that my line of HENSON's come from Leicesteshire.None of the names and places are anywhere in my notes.That's not to say they're not related but I can't get any further back than 1831 at the moment.The relationship could be further back.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Trisha :) :) :)
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Hi Stuart
Welcome to Rootschat
Only about 15% of Hunts parish registers appear on the IGI, so "your" Rebecca could be among the 85% that the LDS weren't allowed to film. Whilst Glatton has been extracted, Gt Gidding hasn't.
Having said that, you may have the right one as the 1841 census shows
HO107/450 - 14 Folio 13B
Great Gidding
Thomas Henson 60 Ag lab born in county
Catharine Henson 55 Born in Ireland
Thomas 20 ag lab; John 20 ag lab; Rebekah 15 all born in county
The Thomas age 20 (ages over 15 in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 below) may well be the visitor in 1851 and provides a firmer link to Thomas and Catherine. I assume the Lincs marriage site to which you refer confirms her father's name as Thomas.
I couldn't see any other Hensons in the Giddings, and none in Glatton
There's no marriage on the Hunts Marriage Index for Thomas and Catharine.
There's a member submission on the IGI (always to be taken with large pinches of salt) of Elizabeth daughter of Thomas and Catherine in 1812 at Gt Weldon Northants - the Gt Gidding Thomas and Catherine are old enough to have been married by 1812. Of course it might be a complete red herring, but Northants is as badly covered on the IGI as Hunts. It might be interesting to see what a marriage look up request on the Northants board throws up.
Regards
David
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Great thanks for the input - sounds like it could be them I've found a Thomas Hendson ( note the spelling) in Great gidding in the 1851 census - must be the same one he was born 1780 ish ( usual 2 year plus and minus I guess) with his daughter Ann and grandchildren maryann and rebecca!!!.
The 1851 gives me Thos b:1780 Glatton with daughter Ann b:1824 and grandchildren Maryann b:1845 and rebecca b:1848 all born Great Gidding
Now there is some very interesting stufff here:-
The IGI has a significant number of Hensons in the giddings and Glatton
In 1851 there is just Thomas above - where did they go? and why?
Then the big question for me is I have from the IGI three children to Thomas and Catharine as per my last post but one to Thomas and Ann. I have their marriage as (Thomas Henson spouse Ann wells 20 sept 1843 great gidding) from the IGI but confirmed on the BMD - is this a second marriage - ties up with your Thomas but cannot find Catharine's death That would make Thomas old when he married Ann but again ties up with the census data I have found
This bit of my tree is new to me so I have gone for my "now becoming standard scatter gun approach". This is really interesting.... I have extracted all the 1851 census data for the Henson's in Huntingdon and each surrounding county. I'll post the data if anyone needs it let me know. I plan to do a map of where they live and have only found one family in the Giddings area - none of the villages have anyone except for the the Hendson's which I covered above. It looks to me as though the family left this part of Huntingdon on mass - I wonder why?.
Any idea's how I found out if this Thomas was previously married to Catharine then to Ann? if this is right I have them otherwise I'm still looking
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Hi Stuart
The BVRI shows the 1843 marriage. Thomas's father was Thomas and, given that there were two children and Thomas snr would have been in his mid 60's, I think it more likely that it was Thomas jnr who married and in 1851 he was merely visiting his sister where his marital condition was left blank. His wife Ann and their children MaryAnn and Rebecca were living with her father in law.
BVRI has
30 Apr 1844 MaryAnn chr at Gt Gidding parents Thomas and Ann
No Rebecca 1848 though
It also has
James chr Gt Gidding 31 May 1844 son of Rebecca Henson
Regards
David
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Absolutely Brilliant - that ties it all in very well I have Rebbecca living in Cowbit in 1851 with son James born 1844 she was also married in 1844 and yes I have confirmation that her father was Thomas from the marriage. I suspect the James ch:1844 son of Rebbecca Henson is my James does the use of her maiden name mean he was illegitimate? If your thoughts on Thomas and Catharine's son Thomas are correct that would give me the following:-
Thomas = Catherine
1780 1780 - 1785
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Thomas = Ann Wells John Rebbecca = Michael
abt 1821 1824 ? 1821 1820
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Mary Ann 1844 James 1844
Rebbecca 1848 Catherine 1846
Mary 1848
I also have Eleanor CH 1817 and Alice Ch 1828 as daughters of Thomas and Catharine from the IGI
I have a Rebbecca registered in 1847 in Oundle XV 321 June qtr which is likely to be Thomas and Ann's daughter Birth certificate would confirm.
I have now found John and Rebekah Cook married in Great Giddings on 4 May1777 This sounds a very likely candidate for Thomas's parents I guess - they appear to have two other children born in Gatton Eleanor 27 Feb 1778 and Rebbecca 27 Apr 1783
I'll keep looking
Interestingly when I discussed the Hensons with my father he suddenly remembers Aunt Maud and uncle Jack Henson were farmers in Ramsey or wayboys and that my Uncle Jack Rippon went to live with them as there was no room for him at home. Dad remembers visiting and collecting bread, meat and eggs regularly during the war. My Uncle jack was actually Christened John Herbert. So it may be worth trying to trace John and Thomas a little further to find this link.
I've not used the BVRI before for research but it looks a good tool so I've just sent for a full set. While I wait can you see Rebbecca in 1847?
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Hi Stuart
Yes, the absence of a father's name on an IGI christening entry usually signifies illegitimacy. Rebecca 1847/8 is not on the BVRI.
I think your descendancy chart looks right, and is how I would interpret what we've come up with so far.
I find the BVRI very useful, although others disagree! It depends on the county. Hunts which is badly covered on the IGI has a number of additional parishes included in the BVRI which I find invaluable. I also use the Hunts Marriage Index a lot as it covers most Hunts parishes - this is available from the Hunts FHS on fiche, priced very reasonably. Not having a fiche viewer I have to resort to a 20x magnifying glass and put up with the greasy nose prints on the fiches!
Regards
David
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Well the BVRI was worth the investment although I wish I had found out that you can get it from the UK rather than having to buy from the US.
I have found Thomas's birth father John and mother Elizabeth Born Glatton 1780 - has to be my man but then I go off the rails again. I can't find any more children to John and Elizabeth or there marriage in the BVRI or the IGI. There is another John in Glatton married to Rebecca but they have children that Span Thomas' birth so this sounds like a separate couple.
I can't find Thomas' Marriage either have no idea where than has gone I wonder as his wife was Irish if they were married out of the country.
Any ideas welcome
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I am trying to find out more about the Hensons who were concentrated around the Kimberley area of Nottingham. Largely mining stock. Trying to cross-check if any were involved in mining accidents. Any pointers, much appreciated.
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As on the face of it there's no connection with the Hensons from Hunts you'd be best advised to post on the Notts board, adding dates for the period you're looking for.
David
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Thanks, David. That makes sense! I'm new to this site so just finding my way around.
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My family are Hensons in Peterborough
My Grandad was Jim Henson married at the time to Florry Henson they had four girls
June Girlie Shirley and Miriam Henson Resided in Walpole street and Victoria street and around that area .
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Sandra, can you tell me a little more, where they originated from or their parents names? cannot tie in at the moment.
Best wishes
May
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I recently found they originate from Ireland the name ( Ling ) Henson Jim henson came from kings Lynn to work railroads resided later on in walpole street peterborough .my grandma's surname was Alice
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Hi
Did you mean that James P Henson married Florrie ALLIS QSep 1938 Peterboro?
There is another Henson / ALLIS marriage in 1933 Peterboro
Ray
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I think this maybe the one if serves me correct .They had four 5 daughters June Miriam Shirley and Girlie i cannot remember the other she died at birth sadly all now deceased apart from one .But i spelt the name Alice Wrong its the way you spelt it .
Sandra
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I have a Fanny Henson married to a William Coles in 1887? and trying to find a family line for her. She was my great grandmother. They had a son named Thomas Beeton Coles. Does anyone have a connection to them?