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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: roz.ronly on Monday 01 November 04 15:37 GMT (UK)
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Any Kettlety's out there ? Extremely difficult finding this family despite a rare name. I have an Albert Kettlety married to an Elizabeth Prescott both born around 1882 in Avon, Wilts or Worcs.
Any info at all would be very much appreciated.
Roz
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Hi Roz
Have you looked at the 1901 Census. There is an Albert aged 19
born:Worcestershire Claines County:Worcestershire Civil parish:North Claines Coach Maker
Ada - aged 10 - same details (except the occupation)
Elizabeth aged 44 (born Worcestershire Rowe)
Henry 14 - office Boy
I didn't find a husband for Elizabeth - may have missed him or she may be a widow.
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Any Kettlety's out there ? Extremely difficult finding this family despite a rare name. I have an Albert Kettlety married to an Elizabeth Prescott both born around 1882 in Avon, Wilts or Worcs.
Any info at all would be very much appreciated.
Roz
Found these two families in the 1891 census:
Kettlety, Albert 8 Bath, Somerset Son Twerton Somerset
Kettlety, Edith 3 Twerton, Somerset Daughter Twerton Somerset
Kettlety, George 10 Bath, Somerset Son Twerton Somerset
Kettlety, Louisa 34 Lambeth, London Wife Twerton Somerset
Kettlety, Louisa 14 Bath, Somerset Daughter Twerton Somerset
Kettlety, Mabel 1 Twerton, Somerset Daughter Twerton Somerset
Kettlety, William 37 Bradford, Wiltshire Head Twerton Somerset
Kettlety, William 11 Bath, Somerset Son Twerton Somerset
RG12/1929 Folio 71 Page 13
Twerton
Kettlety , Albert 9 Claines, Worcestershire Son North Claines Worcestershire
Kettlety , Elizth 35 Church Lench, Worcestershire Wife North Claines Worcestershire
Kettlety , Ellen 7 Claines, Worcestershire Daughter North Claines Worcestershire
Kettlety , Harry 4 Claines, Worcestershire Son North Claines Worcestershire
Kettlety , Kata 10.12 Claines, Worcestershire Daughter North Claines Worcestershire
Kettlety , Worthy (?) 42 Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire Head North Claines Worcestershire
RG12/2341 Folio 87 Page 4
Claines
There's 25 Wiltshire Kettletys in the 1871 census, no Alberts or Berts but one 'Obed' Kettlety aged 2 of Bradford. Looking at the image it looks like it could say Albert though it's hard to tell. All the other names in that family are fairly standard Victorian names so I'd be surprised if they suddenly decided to go for something unusual, though it's always a possibility of course.
This is the family anyway:
Eliza Kettlety 12 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Daughter Bradford Wiltshire
Frank Kettlety 10 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Son Bradford Wiltshire
Frederick Kettlety 8 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Son Bradford Wiltshire
George Kettlety 15 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Son Bradford Wiltshire
Harriet Kettlety 46 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Wife Bradford Wiltshire
James Kettlety 58 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Head Bradford Wiltshire
Obed Kettlety 2 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Son Bradford Wiltshire
Peter Kettlety 4 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Son Bradford Wiltshire
William Kettlety 17 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Son Bradford Wiltshire
RG10/1925 Folio 40 Page 16
Bradford On Avon
Liam
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Albert was my grandfather. He was the son of Worthy and father of Ada May and Kathleen Emily.
He died young and the girls were raised by grandparents. He had an adopted brother Harry who was killed and buried in France. Albert was also in the army but did not go overseas.
Harry was a detective constable and we would love to know where he came from and how he came to be a Kettlety..
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Hi Marie my mother's name was Vera kettlety she was born january1914 in Cheltenham she was raised by her grandparents as both her parents died young. I understood she had two sisters but she never spoke of them I believe her father was Alfred kettlety. I know nothing of my history other than my mother left home early age and went into service at 28 she gave birth to me Pamela Mary kettlety in 1943 in London. Alfred's father according to recent information was worthy...her sister I am advised was Kathleen kettlety. Can anyone help me? Pam jarrett
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Hi Pam,
On Ancestry.co.uk there is a family tree which ties in with the info you have listed;
Vera Dorothy Kettley born mar ¼ 1914 Cheltenham with mother's maiden name as Howley.
They only list one sibling Kathleen (1916-1962)
Father is Albert Kittley b. 1881 Claines, Worc d. 1923 Gloucs.- (s/o Worthy 1848-1899 mother Elizabeth Clarke 1856- (Pershore, Worcs)
Mother is Rose Emily Howley b.1878 Cirencester d.1916 Charlton Kings, Gloucs - her parents are not listed.
Is this of any use - it seems to confirm the info you may already have.
Alan
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Hi Alan hey thanks for your input I am a novice computer user even the book computers for dummies was too advanced for me!!!on a more serious note i completed a winsley at war enquiry application as there are kettlety listed in action. Linda was so helpful found no link with soldiers so far but advised Kathleen kettlety was my mother's sister married a Malcom morrison it was to this end I was hopeful as I observed a Marie morrison providing much the same info as myself so are we related? If Kathleen was my mother's sister and became a morrison I am so longing to discover a relative with even further hope of a photo..aanything to which I can identify my mother was strange in that she had completely detached herself from any family as a consequence I always longed for aunt's sisters or even cousins. So here I am 75 and no further advanced in my quest. As I say my birth name Pamela Mary kettlety does that suggest a Mary kettlety somewhere? I do hope Marie will see this and reply thanks .
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Hi Pam,
Well I've been looking around for you and have found that Rose Howley married Albert Kettley in 1912 in the Cheltenham District (Vol; 6a, Page 577).
Rose Emily's parents appear to have been William T Howley and Eliza per the 1891 census for
Much Birch, Herefordshire (she was only 2 and born Cirencester as were her parents).
In 1901 census the family were in Hasfield, Gloucs and consists of;
Wm. T Howley aged 38 Carter
Elizabeth " " 37
Rose E " " 13
Alfred " " 9 born Birdlip
William T " " 4 " Shirlington
Elsie " " 1 " Birdlip
Rose Emily Howley was baptised 30-4-1889 in Stratton, Gloucs (d/o William Thomas & Eliza) Farm Labr.
Marriage;
10-4-1884 Withington, Gloucs.
William Thomas Howley, 21, bach, Labourer (s/o Henry Howley, Carter) to
Eliza Howley, 21, sp, (d/o Alfred Howley, Carter)
By Banns
I can let you have copies of these documents if you wish.
Reply to this thread (for your 3rd posting) and you can then start using the private message system by clicking on my name. We can then swap suitable email addresses which avoids publicising them resulting in unwanted emails.
This gives some more info on your mother's background.
Alan
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athGreat to hear from you. My mother was Kathleen Emily, born in Cheltenham on Feb.17, 1916. She had an older sister Ada May who married Gerry Crenol and lived in Burnham. They had a daughter Susan who died about age 47. My grandfather Albert died when my mother was 8. Sorry but I'm no good at geneaology or computers. Albert had an adopted brother who was killed in France in 1916 and was buried there. He was a police detective constable, unmarried and no descendants. Albert was in the army but did not go overseas. My mother had one photo of him in uniform. Don,t know where it went. Hope this helps.
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Dear cousin Pam, If you are correct about these grandparents you have 3 cousins in Canada and at age 77 I would be one of them. My father was Malcolm Murdo Morrison from Bragar, near Stornoway. If you look up the Bragar Arch (which has its own website) you will find his family. I would love to correspond with you directly as I know nobody from
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Hi Marie what intriguesmme is that according to Linda from winsley at war my mother's father too was worthy and had a sister Kathleen whomasmi am told married a malcome morrison...no relation to you? She said Vera Dorothy kettlety had a sister Kathleen then father of both Vera and Kathleen was Albert kettlety mother Rose howley what was you mother's name? I keep thinking while I so far I am so close to finding a long lost family member. I believe all ert middle name was Thomas will check on my mother's marraige. I am sure she said she had two sisters...gets confusing doesn't it? I have to reread everything to digest it all and like you say the computer thing I too struggle with.so...anything you can advise me would be great our stories are so similar especially when compared with the account provided by Linda from w at w....hope to hear that k you so much!! Lol as
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Confusing is right! My sister's name is Rose Alberta, which should be a clue. My mother Kathleen had a fatal stroke in St.Albans when she was 45 (we thought). Ada died of same in Weston at 74. The only other we knew was a cousin Freda who turned up at Ada's from time o time but never came to ours. My mother said Worthy was a signalman on the railway and used to come home drunk carrying his lamp and singing "Lead Kindly Light". They left home in their teens and worked and lived-in at a boarding school.
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Dear Pam, Tried to send personal message but did not work. Ada had a skin condition and I have skin cancer. You are welcome to the few photos I have but can't send by computer. Is Canada not on your bucket list? Many thanks to Alan and everyone who has helped in this search. Are we all related? What about Harry? And Freda? Sincerely, Marie