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Title: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: wamwig on Friday 25 August 06 08:33 BST (UK)
Hi all

I have an ancestor, Frances Wilkin born Walsingham 1807 and married William Twiddy in East Barsham in December 1829, but have then come to a bit of a halt there with that line, just wondered if there were any Wilkin's left in Walsingham at the 1841 census?

Many Thanks

Anthony

Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: sammy14 on Friday 25 August 06 09:01 BST (UK)
Anthony,
Did not see any Wilkins in the 1841 Census in Norfolk. Possibly if you have Frances Wilkins parents names, would have better luck.

Do you have William and Frances Twiddy family from the 1841 Census. 
Can give you that info if you don't have.

Sam
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: Tati on Friday 25 August 06 09:04 BST (UK)
Hi Anthony,

Are Walsingham and Little Walsingham the same?

If so, I can see:
HO107/772/14
Little Walsingham
Almshouses

Sarah Wilkin, 68
William Wilkin, 14

HO107/772/14 13 18
Thorngate Lane

Charles Wilkin, 44, Ag lab
William, 17
Elizabeth, 15
Charles, 11
John, 6

HO107/772/14
Knight? St
Confined in the Cage ( ???)

Robert Wilkin, 29, Ag lab
Mary, 25

All born in county

Tanja  :)

In 1851, I can see another couple: John age 50 & family (born & living Little Walsingham)
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: wamwig on Friday 25 August 06 09:08 BST (UK)
Thanks Sam and Tanja

Yes Little Walsingham would be Walsingham, gives me a few more names just got to work out how they are related to Frances, logic would suggest that maybe Charles is a brother and Sarah might be their mother, only a thought though.

Confined in the cage sounds interesting!!

Thanks again

Anthony
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: Tati on Friday 25 August 06 09:13 BST (UK)
Knight Street
Confined in the Cage


is at the top of the page and the Wilkin address is dittoed from above. With a little luck, it didn't really apply to them  :P

PS I see there's a member submitted record on the IGI for Frances: parents John Wilkin and Sarah Rix - siblings William 1802, Robert 1811, Charles 1795, Ann 1804
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: wamwig on Friday 25 August 06 09:21 BST (UK)
Tanja

Guess that just about ties the Sarah in the 1841 as her mother then and the Charles and Robert, also gives me some addresses to look for next time I'm there, which is a bit of a shame as I was there the week before last and wish I'd known it then, oh well theres always next time.

Thanks again

Anthony
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: EileenI on Friday 25 August 06 09:27 BST (UK)
Hi Anthony,

I have the east Barsham A/Ts Transcripts and have found this-

Births

1806 dec 25, William, son of Philip and Ann (*Burgess, spinster) [given as *Harvey, spinster in the marriages] born nov 1

1782 oct 6  Harvey,  Ann daughter  of Thomas and Ann

Marriages

1802 jan 25, Twidy x Philip, bach otp
                      Harvey x Anne, sp  otp
                       wit : Jas Sands  Thos Harvey x

Burials
1808   feb 5  Philip, married man aged 23? years

Hope its of help,

Regards Eileen
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: wamwig on Friday 25 August 06 09:32 BST (UK)
Eileen

That is terrific information, very interesting and helps to fill in a few more gaps, thanks very much. Later censuses had William as born in Snoring, although all the villages are close there so perhaps its an easy error to make.

Anthony
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: EileenI on Friday 25 August 06 10:15 BST (UK)
Hi Anthony,
Other Harvey's in East Barsham.

Births

1772 may 10, John s of  Thomas and Ann
1774 mar 13 , Thomas s of Thomas and Ann
1775 dec 24, Mary d of Thomas and Ann
1778 jun 7, Elizabeth d of Thomas and Ann
1782 oct 6, Ann d of Thomas and Ann
1785 may 1, Robert s of Thomas and Ann

1797 aug 14, Thomas s of Thomas and Elizabeth (Sizeland) born aug 13 priv bpt

Marriages
1795 nov 17  Matsel x John bach otp
                      Harvey x Mary  sp otp  Banns
wit: Thomas Riches Frances Steel

1797 oct 9  Rix? x Henry   bach   otp
                   Harvey x Elizabeth sp otp banns
wit: Ann Harvey x James Sands

Burials
1787 jun 29 Harvey Robert s of Thomas and Ann (Atter) aged 2

Hope it helps!
Regards Eileen
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: wamwig on Friday 25 August 06 11:37 BST (UK)
Eileen

Wow even more information thanks very much and also Ann's mothers maiden name (Atter - not very common I suspect).

Wonder why on Williams birth record Ann's maiden name was given as Burgess rather than Harvey. Is it possible Ann Twiddy (Harvey) died and Phillip then married another Ann (Burgess) or was Ann married before and her husband died?

Anthony
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: EileenI on Friday 25 August 06 22:05 BST (UK)
Hi Anthony,
Had a look on the Norfolk transcriptions Archive site, and found this-

Marriages (Parish Register)
Fakenham 1805 Philip Twiddy to Ann Burgess
groom widr of hempton, bride of Billingford.

so Ann Twiddy (Harvey) must have died some time between 1802 and 1805

also in the Baptisms (parish Register)

Gt Walsingham 1780 Twiddy Philip, Parents William and Catharine.

which would make him 28 when he died.

Eileen
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: linmey on Saturday 26 August 06 07:47 BST (UK)
Eileen

Thanks for that, so now I have to look for a Burgess family in Billingford as well, shame the first wifes burial wasnt in the parish records. Also I did not know Philips parents before so that gets another generation back as well,

Thanks again that really has been a great help.

Anthony (replying from a friends pc which is why its a different user)
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: Tati on Saturday 26 August 06 10:18 BST (UK)
Hi Anthony,

1851
HO107/1826 342 23
Little Walsingham, Norfolk
Thorngate Lane

Charles Wilkin, head, 54, Ag lab, b. Little Walsingham
Ann Wilkin, wife, 36, b. Gt Walsingham
Charles Wilkin, son, 21, Ag lab, b. Little Walsingham
John Flawman Wilkin, son, 16, Tailor Apprentice, b. do.
Sarah Ann Wilkin, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
Margaret Overton Dewing, dau to wife, 14, scholar, b. do.

and John, as requested  ::)

(same page)
John Wilkin, head, 51, Bricklayer Journeyman, b. Little Walsingham
Alice, wife, 48, b. Burnham Thorpe
James, son, 15, Shoemaker Apprentice, b. Norfolk Wells
John, son, 11, scholar, b. Yorkshire Wakefield
Title: Re: 1841 - Wilkin - Walsingham
Post by: wamwig on Saturday 26 August 06 10:49 BST (UK)
Hi Tanja

That at least explains why he is missing from the 1841 census I guess he was in Wakefield or somewhere between Wakefield and Walsingham.

Thanks for that

Anthony