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Title: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Terie on Saturday 26 August 06 00:17 BST (UK)
I have just began to search for the family of Andrew Crawford born Roxburghshire,Scotland,1860,
he is the only branch of my Crawford tree I need to complete.
Andrew Crawford was the informant at the death of his uncle in Scotland on Aug 24th 1889,he gave his address as;141 Queens Rd,Bayswater,London.

I have searched for Andrew on the 1901 census for England and believe he is living at 17 Grosvenor Rd, Ilford,Essex, with his wife Selina( hand writing difficult to read),
Andrew is 41yrs old,a draper born Scotland.

My only clue to his family is a photograph of Olive Crawford taken in Billericay, she kept in touch with my late great-uncle, who died in 1998.

When Miss Olive Crawford died in 1999 my mother received a letter from her nephew, Brigadier Alistair W Crawford,

I have done a search on the 1837 web site and found; Olive Eleanor F Crawford,born 2nd Oct 1907,died Thurrock,Dec 1999,
Also Olive Eleanor F Crawford, born Romford 1907,

My other great-uncle who will be 101yrs old next month, can only tell me that Olive Crawfords father was Andrew Crawford who was a draper. he didn't keep in touch with that side of the family,

Given that Olive was born in 1907 she may have been Andrew's daughter or grand-daughter,

Andrew Crawford's parents were William Crawford and Eleanor Brown,

Any help or suggestions would be most welcome,
I live in Canada and I am more familiar with research in Scotland which has a very different system.
Thank you for reading,
Amanda.
Title: Re: Andrew Crawford,Ilford.
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 26 August 06 12:27 BST (UK)
I don't think Olive can be Selina's daughter, as this looks like her death in 1903:

Deaths Dec 1903
CRAWFORD   Selina          50   
Romford 4a 257

There's a marriage for an Andrew Crawford in Romford reg. district in 1905 to either Jessie Bennett LOFTHOUSE or Amy Amelia NICHOLLS.

Rambler
Title: Re: Andrew Crawford,Ilford.
Post by: Terie on Saturday 26 August 06 13:48 BST (UK)
Hi Rambler,thanks for your help, I decided to order the birth certificate of Olive Crawford born 1907,it should arrive in a couple of weeks and give some answers, will let you know the result,

thank you again,

Amanda.
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Terie on Tuesday 12 September 06 15:18 BST (UK)
Just received the birth certificate of Olive Eleanor Frances Crawford today,
confirms that her father was Andrew Crawford,master draper,
her mother Amy Amelia Crawford formerly Nicholls,
born at 45 Mansfield Road, Ilford,
I now need to get the marriage certificate from 1905.

Would that tell me if Andrew Crawford was previously married?
Amy Amelia Nicholls could be his second wife?

Andrew Crawford would have been 45yrs old when he married her.

thank you for any help,
Amanda,
Canada.
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 12 September 06 15:31 BST (UK)
The wedding cert should state that Andrew was a widower, rather than "bachelor".  It will also give his age and occupation, which will help confirm that it's the same person - I think it's very likely Amy was his second wife, as everything else seems to fit.

Rambler
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Terie on Thursday 26 October 06 18:37 BST (UK)
Thank you Rambler,
will post again when I receive marriage certificate,
Amanda.
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Terie on Friday 14 November 08 16:51 GMT (UK)
Taking another look at my Crawford research, I now have the marriage certificate for Andrew which records him as a Widower age 45yrs, master draper of 45 Mansfield Rd, Ilford,
he married Amy Amelia Nicholls on 1st June 1905 at the Presbyterian Church, Oakfield Rd, Ilford.

Amy Nicholls was age 27yrs so could have had several children including Olive who was born Oct 2nd 1907, Amy's father was named James Joseph Nicholls,

any suggestions for finding other children of Andrew and Amy Amelia Crawford?

Amanda.
Canada.
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: GrandmaSheila on Friday 14 November 08 17:07 GMT (UK)
Found a Jean A.I. Crawford (mothers maiden name Nicholls) born in Billericay, Essex in Sept. 1915.

Found this on freeBMD.

Sheila
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Terie on Saturday 15 November 08 23:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you Sheila, I had not thought off checking the freeBMD site again,

I will try to order this cert over the next week or so,

In Scotland the family used the traditional naming pattern for children but it looks like Andrew did not continue with this,

Amanda.
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Terie on Wednesday 04 February 09 00:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks to the released 1911 Census I have found Andrew Crawford and family living at 45 Mansfield Rd,Ilford, along with Amy and dau Olive there is also their son ANDREW KENNETH CRAWFORD age 5yrs,

Andrew Kenneth Crawford born March 1906 Romford. on the free BMD site,

does anyone recognize this name?

Amanda,
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: paddycr on Monday 17 August 15 20:06 BST (UK)
Old thread!  If anyone is still interested or listening I can let you know a bit about Andrew Kenneth Crawford - he was a member of my family
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: louisa maud on Tuesday 18 August 15 10:10 BST (UK)
Andrew Kenneth Crawford married 1935 to Annie Somerville Plymouth

Died 13/12/1956 Plymouth,  of College Avenue  Mannamead Plymouth
administration to widow Annie

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: paddycr on Tuesday 18 August 15 16:05 BST (UK)
Andrew Kenneth Crawford married 1935 to Annie Somerville Plymouth

Died 13/12/1956 Plymouth,  of College Avenue  Mannamead Plymouth
administration to widow Annie

Louisa Maud

Thanks Louisa,

This is indeed the correct person.  The bride was actually Annie-Kate Somerville, but she went the name Vena.  She died on 17/3/2010 (I think), and the death would have been recorded under the surname 'Neve'.

Can I ask where you got this detailed info?  I started sniffing around on the FreeBMD site but the level of recording was very basic.  I am a complete beginner so any links etc. you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 19 August 15 07:28 BST (UK)
I got this info from

freebmd.org.uk
ancestry.co.uk

There are other sources of information, ancestry is a fee paying site

The marriage,  if you want all of the details you would have to purchase the marriage certificate

Happy hunting

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
Post by: Terie on Sunday 05 February 17 01:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the info.