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Title: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Dizzy Escape on Thursday 04 November 04 09:40 GMT (UK)
My great great grandfather was John Disley (b. 1845) of Berriew who married Susannah Jones from Wentnor in Shropshire.  John's father was James Disley (b. 1814) who married Mary Woods, also of Berriew, daughter of Richard Woods, a weaver.  James was the son of James Disley (1773-1848)and Martha (1784-1859).  Does anyone have any more information about the Disleys of Berriew?
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Lloydy on Wednesday 05 January 05 19:20 GMT (UK)
Here are some Disley's from the 1861 census:

RG9/4254, folio 84, page 24

DISLEY Edward, s, -, 6, scholar  Fron Sion Hugh, 
DISLEY Elizabeth, sv, w, 56, dressmaker, School Houses, 
DISLEY James, h, m, 47, ag lab, Fron Sion Hugh, 
DISLEY John, sv, u, 15, carter,, The Cottage,
DISLEY Mary, w, m, 48,  Fron Sion

All born MGY Berriew, except Mary born MGY Llanwyddelen   

RG9/4254 folio 92, page 19

DISLEY Richard, ld, u, 20, ag lab Cefn Faenor,
Born MGY, Berriew

RG9/4254 folio 54 page 10

DISLEY Richard, sv, -, 13, general servant The Cottage,
Born MGY, Berriew

RG9/4254/ folio 86 page 12

DISLEY Sarah, sv, u, 14, general servant, , Barn
Born MGY, Churchstoke

RG9/4254 folio 94 page 24

DISLEY Thomas, s, -, 8, scholar, Fron Sion Hugh, 
DISLEY William, s, -, 11, scholar,  Fron Sion Hugh,
Both born MGY, Berriew

Jan :)
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Lloydy on Wednesday 05 January 05 19:24 GMT (UK)
The two younger Disley's as servants in 1861

RG9/4254 folio 54, page 10

GOUGH Mary Powell, h, w,age 73, farmer 56 acres+, born MGY Berriew, The Cottage
GOUGH Edward Powell, s, u, age 29, farmers son, born MGY Churchstoke, The Cottage,
GOUGH John Powell, s, u, age 27, farmers son, born MGY Churchstoke, The Cottage, 
BULLOCK Jane, sv, u, age 19, housekeeper, born MGY Guilsfield, The Cottage,
DISLEY John, sv, u, age 15, carter, born MGY Berriew, The Cottage,
DISLEY Richard, sv, -, age 13, general servant, born MGY Berriew, The Cottage


and their parents

RG9/4254, folio 94, page 24

DISLEY James, h, m, age 47, ag lab, born MGY Berriew, Fron Sion Hugh
DISLEY Mary, w, m, age 48, -, born MGY Llanwyddelan, Fron Sion Hugh,
DISLEY William, s, -, age 11, scholar, born MGY Berriew, Fron Sion Hugh,
DISLEY Thomas, s, -, age 8, scholar, born MGY Berriew, Fron Sion Hugh,
DISLEY Edward, s, -, age 6, scholar, born MGY Berriew, Fron Sion Hugh,

Jan :)
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Dizzy Escape on Friday 06 May 05 18:22 BST (UK)
Thanks for this - and sorry to have been so slow to have replied.  (I hadn't realised I had a reply waiting for me.)  I'm now trying to trace James Disley (1773).  I'd love to know where he heralded from.
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 06 May 05 20:01 BST (UK)
Hi Dizzy

Glad you found your reply!!!!!

I have had a look at 1851 and think this might be a possibility for Martha Disley (James has died, she's a widow)

Living at Lower Dyfryyn, Berriew at her daughter and son-in-law's

John Humphreys 25 farm labourer
Ann Humphreys 22
Mary Ann Humphreys 2
Martha Disley 65 Widow (pauper)  Relationship to Head is ML (mother-in-Law)

All were born in Montgomery.

Is this any help?

Jan


Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Dizzy Escape on Saturday 07 May 05 11:59 BST (UK)
Yes, this is indeed Martha Disley, who was widowed in 1848.  She was living in 1851 with her daughter Ann (b.1828), who married John Humphreys (b. 1825) and whose daughter, Mary Ann, was born in 1849.  I had hoped that Martha's birthplace would have been listed as Shropshire because I have found on IGI a marriage between a James Disley and a Martha Griffiths in Mainstone, Shropshire in 1811, which would fit because their first child was born in 1814.  Mainstone is not all that far away from Berriew, of course. I'll be spending a day in the Shropshire Archives soon, so perhaps I'll make some headway there!
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Lloydy on Saturday 07 May 05 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi again Dizzy

I wouldn't be put off about the birthplace possibly being incorrect.  It was known for birthplaces to be recorded incorrectly on the census.

I have one of my ancestors on all the Montgomeryshire census and on each one she is born in a different town!!!!!!!

If you need any help at all when you come to the Shroshire Archives give me a shout, I live in Shrewsbury :D

Jan
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Dizzy Escape on Saturday 07 May 05 17:59 BST (UK)
Thanks!  Yes, a number of my ancestors put different birthplaces on their census returns.  No consideration for those who are trying to research them in subsequent generations!!!
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Lloydy on Sunday 08 May 05 10:13 BST (UK)
There are a number of DISLEY that appear on the 1851 census, several who were born in Berriew.

Let me know if you would like me to list them for you.

Jan
Title: Re: DISLEY of Berriew
Post by: Dizzy Escape on Sunday 08 May 05 18:27 BST (UK)
Thanks, but I think I have all the Berriew Disleys from the 1851 Census.  It's pushing the tree back into the eighteenth century that's the problem now!