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Title: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Friday 15 September 06 19:36 BST (UK)
Looking for decendents of John McKenzie and Janet McDougall m 1836 Greenock.  Childern traced so far, Janet b about 1847? and Elizabeth b 1849.  Any help greatly appreciated.

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 15 September 06 20:41 BST (UK)
Hi Anne

This may be the family in 1841, from FreeCen:

MCKENZIE John 25 Jrnymn Ropemaker b. Renfrewshire            
MCKENZIE Janet   20 B. Renfrewshire            
MCKENZIE William 4 b. Renfrewshire            
MCKENZIE John 21 b. Renfrewshire    

Address: Roxburgh St, Greenock-Renfrewshire

I can't see any children on IGI for them except for Elizabeth b. 1849. Your best route may be through the censuses for 1851/61 to determine what other children they had.

Regards.

Monica        
    
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Friday 15 September 06 20:57 BST (UK)
That was quick  :) Yes, they definately had an Elizabeth in 1849.  These two have been only one pair of many "deadends" (I think I'm supposed to call them "brickwalls" or something  :) ) in my family history for more than a few years and I thank you for this info.  I just hope that someone recognises these names as part of "their" family history.  I sometimes feel like I am "the end of the line" in my family  ::)

Many thanks,

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 15 September 06 21:01 BST (UK)
Anne

Keep plugging on, if only for your own curiosity. Most people, and I include me (!), seldom make the big connections. Most of the fun (oh yes and frustration) comes from putting the pieces together and making some sense of it.

Good luck.

Monica
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Friday 15 September 06 21:13 BST (UK)
Hi Monica,

Thanks for that  ;) I have been tracing my family (officially) since 1994 but my wee granny was giving me loads of info for 30 years before that  :) Once started, never given up!

Regards

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Friday 15 September 06 21:22 BST (UK)
Hi Monica,

Just noticed on your post that you are reseaching the Moran family from Co Mayo.  My brother-in-law is descended from a Moran family in Co Mayo.  His great, great grandmother was a Mary Moran m Myles Gibbons 1864 in Aghagower, Co Mayo.

Regards,

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: PoisenIvy on Saturday 16 September 06 06:43 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Saturday 16 September 06 12:45 BST (UK)
Hi, Thanks for that.  I have Elizabeth and her sister, Janet, my great grandmother but I am sure there are more.  Will check out the John and William mentioned above.

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: ShellDeLeo on Wednesday 04 October 06 23:14 BST (UK)
WILLIAM 2 PATTISON (JAMES 1 ) was born 1822 in Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland, and died 08 Apr 1891 in 382 London
Road, Glasgow, lanark, Scotland. He married JANE MCDOUGALL 27 Dec 1847 in Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland.

do u have any info on jane mc dougall at all thanks Michele :
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Thursday 05 October 06 18:56 BST (UK)
Hi Monica,

I have checked John and Janet's OPR Banns and Marriage entry and John is indeed a Ropemaker, so this family looks likely to be them.  Thanks for info. 

Hi Michele,

I haven't come across a Jane McDougall marrying in 1847.  This would probably put her birth year in the mid to late 1820's or early 1830's (although I do have a an irregular marriage of a 13yr 8mth old female to a 20 yr old male in Dumfriesshire)  If I should come across a Jane McDougall in my search I will let you know.  I am currently looking for a Dugald McDougall born abt 1826, goodness knows where, but probably Scotland and possibly Argyle or the Western Isles.

Good luck in your search,

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: Lisa Wilson on Monday 09 July 07 09:05 BST (UK)
Hi, I just wanted to make contact about your McDougall connections. I just posted information about my family line but wondered if you had any link with the Eckford/Caverton Mill family?
thanks
Lisa
Wellington
New Zealand
www.rishworth.com
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Monday 09 July 07 15:19 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa,

I don't know of any connection to Eckford/Caverton Mill as yet, never say never.

To date, all of my McDougalls have settled in the Greenock area during the mid 19th Century, having left Argyllshire.

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: liverpool lass on Monday 09 July 07 16:04 BST (UK)
Hi Anne, I also have McKenzies from Renfrewshire but I just checked and my John wasn't born until 1828 (too young!). However there may be some link... My Johns father was Murdoch McKenzie who married Agnes McPherson. Have you ever come across these during your research?
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: annejs on Wednesday 11 July 07 09:49 BST (UK)
Hi liverpool lass,

Sorry, I haven't come across your names, so far, never say never.

I can't find out much about this pair I'm afraid so I tend to leave them for a while then go back every now and then. 

If I come Murdoch or Agnes in my search I will let you know.

Anne
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: bobby66 on Wednesday 28 July 10 22:33 BST (UK)
Hi i see you have mccoll i am looking for ellen mccoll born about 1816 bonegal she had a son john manellis born about 1847 john came to greenock and married rose ann mcgroarty 1870 greenock do you have ellen in your tree kind regards margaret
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: chrisseyw on Friday 30 July 10 16:30 BST (UK)
i also have dougald mcdougall in my tree   married t ages crmbie

i dont know if this helps


chrissey
Title: Re: John McKenzie/Janet McDougall
Post by: chc71 on Friday 08 August 14 00:53 BST (UK)
Anne, I noticed your brother-in-law is descended from Myles Gibbons and Mary Moran, who were married in Aghagower, Mayo, Ireland. If this is the same family, they lived in Cushin (near Westport), Mayo, Ireland from about 1861-1905. I am looking for more information on Myles and Mary and their 7 or more children. If your brother-in-law has any information that he'd be willing to share, I'd appreciate it. Thanks