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Title: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: ballach on Wednesday 27 September 06 13:34 BST (UK)
HELLO,
I AM RESEARCHING THE MURRAY FAMILY  WHO CAME ORIGINALLY FROM SLIEVENISKY THEN SOME WENT ONTO LIVE AT CLANVARAGHAN I HAVE LOTS OF NAMES BUT AS YET NO D.O.B'S
I HAVE THE WILL OF JAMES MURRAY FROM SLIENENISKY DIED 1860 FROM THIS HE MENTIONS HIS DECEASED WIFE SUSANAH HIS DECEASED CHILDREN JOHN, HENRY AND SARAH JANE. ALSO IS SURVIVING CHILDREN HUGH.PATRICK SUSANAH AND ELIZA. ELIZA MARRIED PETER MCKAY AND THEY HAD A DAUGHTER SUSAN.
I HAVE ALSO THE WILL OF HIS SON HUGH FROM CLOUGH, DATED 1868 IN HIS WILL HE MENTIONS HIS DECEASED WIVES, ANN AND ELLEN MURRAY AND HIS SURVIVING WIFE MARY AND HIS SISTER SUSAN CRANGLE NEE MURRAY.
IF ANYTHING RINGS A BELL,  I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU
THANKS SUE
Title: Re: MURRAY'S FROM SLIEVENISKY/CLANVARAHGHAN
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Wednesday 04 October 06 19:19 BST (UK)
I don’t know if you have tried Ros Davies Co Down website use Google
Daniel MURRAY   Kilmegan  a grocer in Castlewellan in 1846 POD
Very Rev. Canon Henry MURRAY . Kilmegan & Bright born 12 Oct 1874, Slievenisky, son of Patrick Murray & Margaret Lennon; ordained 1899; parish priest at Killough 1925- 1933 then St Mary's, Newcastle 1933-1955  Sheila DadsonMiss Jane MURRAY . Kilmegan b. 8 Jul 1876 at Clanvaraghan; daughter of Patrick Murray & Margaret Lennon; married Robert McManus in 1907; mother of Hugh b. 1908 & Jessie b. 1910 (married Hugh Fitzpatrick, of Kilcoo ) & Patrick b. 1912 (all b. Workington, Cumberland UK); d. 1948 Sheila 

Another success will be at
www.familysearch.com  for Murrays isvery hard work after 5000 entries it allows you to refine search to just Co Down, but Kilmegan is not a search success, others exist with patience. I spotted Clough several times
Hugh Murray 
Birth:  02 AUG 1877   Sleivinighy, , Down, Ireland
Parents:
  Father:  Hugh Murray  Family
  Mother:  Maria Murray Kelly     
Daniel Murray 
Birth:  29 JAN 1880   Castlewellon, , Down, Ireland
Parents:
  Father:  Henry Murray  Family
  Mother:  Sarah Murray McAleenon     
etc etc
Good luck on both sites, of course there are several more eg Ulster Historical Foundation etc.  Jim
Title: Re: MURRAY'S FROM SLIEVENISKY/CLANVARAHGHAN
Post by: ballach on Thursday 05 October 06 14:36 BST (UK)
have had a look and may have found a few more so thanks Jim
Ballach
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: lily29 on Sunday 21 March 10 12:59 GMT (UK)
Hi, I have just started researching the Murray family from Slievenisky.  I have a Bridget Murray who came to the US with her 2 cousins Rose and Mary Ann Savage in 1905. She gave her date of birth as 1882.  Rose and Mary Ann's mother was Mary Ann Murray who married Hugh Savage  in Slievenisky. I am wondering if any of these people ring a bell with you. Would love to hear from you.  Thank you.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 21 March 10 15:33 GMT (UK)
Hi, 
   Hugh Savage married Mary Ann Murray in Clanvaraghan Roman Catholic Church, Downpatrick on 15 May 1877. I can find two children, John b 1 Mar 1878 and Rose b 28 Jul 1879.

Regards
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: lily29 on Sunday 21 March 10 17:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the information you sent me on the children of Hugh and Mary Ann Murray. Is she in the same family that you are researching?  I have come to a  brick wall on the Murray family.  I am trying to find out who  Bridget Murray's father  and mother is.  Thanks for all your help
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 21 March 10 20:19 GMT (UK)
Lily,
      No, no connection. Just helping to chip away your brick wall. I have one very tentative name. A Bridget Murray who was born on 21 Jul 1880 in Magherascouse to Hugh and Rose Murray. I also have the marriage of Hugh Murray and Mary Rose Murray on 11 Oct 1871 in Carrickmannon , Kilmood Roman Catholic Church, Newtownards. Remember this is extremely tentative.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: tiffin71 on Thursday 02 September 10 16:01 BST (UK)
@ Ballach, I am also a descendant of the Slieveniskey Murray, it seems you have done such a lot of research- could we compare notes?

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Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: tiffin71 on Friday 03 September 10 08:02 BST (UK)
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I'm descended from James Murray d 1860 who married Susannah Murray
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 03 September 10 08:03 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: buona on Saturday 06 November 10 16:56 GMT (UK)
I have an ancestor, Michael Murray, from Down who in the 1911 English Census gives his place of birth as "Silvereriky Co. Down."  As I can't find any reference to such a place in Down I am wondering if it could be the "Slievenisky" mentioned in these posts - maybe Michael couldn't write and the enumerator of the Census made a guess about the spelling?  Can anyone enlighten me about whereabouts please?

Michael was the son of John Murray (b.abt 1806) and his wife, Mary(b. abt 1808) both born in Down.  They had 5 children all born in Down - presumably Slievenisky?
John Murray b.1833
Edward Murray 1835
Michael Murray 1839
Mary Murray 1842
Pada (Patrick?) 1846

By the 1851 Census they were all living in Whitehaven, Cumberland England.  Anyone any connection with these Murrays?  Are they connected with the Murrays mentioned in the above posts?

Any info would be very welcome
Thanks,
buona



Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: Clanvaraghan on Sunday 02 January 11 00:35 GMT (UK)
Hello,
My Murray Family are from Slieveniskey and Clanvaraghan.  My greatgrandfather was Patrick Murray married to Margaret Lennon and they lived in Clanvaraghan House  I believe his father was James Murray 1860.  Their daughter was Jane Murray married Robert McManus and lived in Workington. Would like to hear from any of the Murray Clan from this area.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: lily29 on Sunday 02 January 11 14:03 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Murrays from Slievenisky were Mary Ann Murray who married Hugh Savage, she was born in 1850.  I believe her parents were John Murray and Nancy Walsh.   A Bridget Murray came to the US with two of her cousins in 1905,  Rose Savage and Mary Ann Savage.  Unfortunately I have no other information about the Murrays.  I would love to hear from you since they must be related somehow. 
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: buona on Sunday 02 January 11 15:59 GMT (UK)
Hello Clanvaraghan and llily29

How lovely to hear from you both and thankyou for answering my post. 

I am particularly excited about the Workington aspect as my grandmother (daughter of Edward Murray 1835 in my post above) had relatives  in Workington but so far in my searches I have been unable to make any connections there.  I do vaguely remember someone we used to call "Aunty Mary Murray" from Workington who I think had a daughter called "Doreen." 

I will spend sometime going back over my notes etc. and see what I can unearth.  I think that finding the parents/siblings of my John Murray 1806 (my post above) might provide a key
The Murrays you both mention in your posts seem to have been born later than my Murrays from Slievenisky but I am sure they are all related - cousins/nieces etc.  I am  sure if we work together and pool our finds we might make some progress...

Bye for now and a Happy New Year to you both
buona




Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: Clanvaraghan on Sunday 02 January 11 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, 
Were you aware that the 1901 and 1911 Irish Census are available FREE  on  National Archive Census of Ireland.  Also on PRONI - On the Will Search you can now get free images on some of the Wills.

Hope to hear from the person interested in James Murray.  His Will is posted under James MURRY, He died Feb 15 1860.  His son Hugh Murray also has his will posted - Hugh Murray of Clough died March 14 1865.  The "Ballach" person is a relative of mine.  Our branch is known as the Ballach Murray's.

I have tried to connect some of the Murray families from the Kilmegan Parish and will check my files.   At one time there were five Patrick Murray families living in Clanvaraghan, not too easy to keep them separated.

Clanvaraghan
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: lily29 on Sunday 02 January 11 20:54 GMT (UK)
Yes I looked in the census for Bridget Murray,  but was unable to find her.  I know the names all run together which makes it very difficult.  I was thinking maybe Bridget was living in England at that time and that was why she wasn't on the census. It is like finding a needle in a haystack.  I would love any help that I can get.  Thanks
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: peppermint on Tuesday 11 January 11 14:24 GMT (UK)
Lily is it a bridget murray you r looking for.  Ihad  a great aunt called bridget murray born 29/04/1858 dont know if its the same Bridget Murray let me know.  Im also looking for the Murrays
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: lily29 on Tuesday 11 January 11 14:29 GMT (UK)
My Bridget Murray was born about 1882 or 1883.  On the Ellis Isaland record she lists her home as Slievenisky. 
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: peppermint on Tuesday 11 January 11 14:37 GMT (UK)
does it say who her parents were?  maybe my Bridget was related.  r u related to this Bridget Murray
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: lily29 on Tuesday 11 January 11 19:09 GMT (UK)
The Ellis Island records do not state who her parents are. She paid her won way to NYC in Sept 1905 and travel with her two cousins, Rose Savage and Mary Ann Savage.  Mary Ann Savage was my husband's grandmother.  Rose and Mary Ann settled in lower New  York State.  Mary Ann Murray married Hugh Savage.  I think her parents were John Murray and Nancy Walsh.  Hugh Savage and Mary Ann Murray are buried in the  Finnis Catholic cemetery Dromara.  Maybe my Bridget was named after an aunt.  I really don't have too much more on her.  Thanks for corresponding with me.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: peppermint on Wednesday 12 January 11 15:42 GMT (UK)
Im trying to find murray relations but seem to have come to a blank.  My greatgrandfather was John Murray Married Anne Maginnis they had 12 children I dont know where they went to Hugh was my grandfather and married mary anne mcevoy .  there was a anne who died and I know of james who went to australia the rest I just dont know what happened to them.They were born between 1846 and 1867 Names were.patrick bridget arthur sarah john henry mary catherine and felix
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 12 January 11 17:24 GMT (UK)
Hi,
    I can find the marriage of Hugh Murray who married a widow, Mary Mackin whose maiden name was McAVOY, in Aghlisnafin Roman Catholic Church, Downpatrick on 20 Nov 1881.

Regards
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: peppermint on Thursday 13 January 11 18:50 GMT (UK)
thanks kingskerswell but its not the same Murray's.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: martiboy on Monday 21 February 11 23:05 GMT (UK)
Hi My Murray's came from County Down. Were in Ballaghanery (1901 census) Then newcastle (1911 census)
gF was a John Murray dead by 1898 when daughter Rose Married a Robert McKight. Another daughter Eliabeth married a John Smyth and was in Newcastle County Down in 19011 A sister sussanah (susan)married in 1907 a guy called Handley who was a waiter in Newecastle. Had two brothers John & Patrick Any of this chime wirth anyone contributing. m
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: nancoyne on Saturday 29 December 12 22:49 GMT (UK)
Rose and Mary Ann Savage would have been cousins of my grandmother.
They were children of Mary Ann Murray and Henry Savage.
Mary Ann Murray was sister to my grandmother's father John Murray.
Mary Ann Savagemarried a Donnery.Their daughter Catherine married a Davidson.
Can you tell me anymore about Mary Ann Murray - Her parents and grandparents?
Nan Coyne
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: peppermint on Wednesday 02 January 13 11:18 GMT (UK)
can you tell me more about your john murray when did he die etc.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: nancoyne on Wednesday 02 January 13 22:45 GMT (UK)
My great grandfather, John Murray,   married  Jane Milligan in Clough church in1872.  They emigrated to England where they had at least 10 children. He was shown as living in Middlesborough, aged 64 years in 1911 Census.
I think he died about 1917.
He was born in Slievenisky and had at least 2 sisters ;- Mary-Ann and Susan.  We have not heard of any others.
His mother was a Nancy Walsh. We are not sure of his father's christian name or whether his father had any brothers or sisters. His grandmother's name was Ann.
I am looking for any information about his father's family.
nancoyne
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 03 January 13 08:00 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   I can find the marriage of John Murray and Jane Milligan on 22 Aug 1872. However the church was Castlewellan Roman Catholic Church. In this case the fathers' names were Edward Murray and John Milligan.

Regards
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: nancoyne on Thursday 03 January 13 09:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks, kinkerswell.
This must be the Murray I am looking for.  Oral history in the family had previously called him John so we were surprised to find him recorded as Edward on the wedding certificate.
Can you tell me anything else about his family?
nancoyne
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 03 January 13 10:13 GMT (UK)
Nancoyne,
              Sorry, I have no further information.

Regards
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: byrnesmyth on Wednesday 08 January 14 10:53 GMT (UK)
hello, my auntie mentioned the other day that she heard our Murray connnections originated in Slievenisky. My great-great-gf was Patrick Murray of Knocksticken, b. about 1854, married Anne Maria Davey 21 March 1884 in Downpatrick, d. 7 June 1934. Around 1904 they moved to her father John Davey's farm in Ardilea following the death of his widow Elizabeth. However some of the family remained in Knocksticken, Co. Down.

I think Patrick's father was also a Patrick, going by the valuation records, possibly a brother of Hugh?
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: lily29 on Wednesday 08 January 14 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hi,
My information on the Murray family is very scant.  Mary Ann Murray, was born in 1850, I think in  Loughinisland.  Her brother John Murray, born 1847 stated in the 1911 census he was born in Loughinisland, so I am assuming she was born there also.  Her parents were Edward Murray and Mary  Ann Walsh.  There were many Murrays living in the Slievensky according to the Griffiths Valuation and I have not been able to tie any of then together.  When Mary Ann Savage went to the US in 1905, she travelled with a cousin Bridget Murray.  She stated she was from Slievensky. This is all I have for now after researching many years. Hope we can connect our families somehow. Please let me know if I can help further.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: tonybonsai on Friday 26 September 14 12:38 BST (UK)
The Slievenisky area has also been mentioned to me as a possible connected location for my related Murray families. Can anyone else recognise them  or fit them in to a decent line? Patrick Murray, born late 1790's / early 1800's married a Catherine O'Hare and they may have been in Leitrim area. They probably died in County Down. Their son James Murray born in Leitrim area abt 1826 married Bridget McMillan at Ballywillwill, Down abt 1847 and they ended up in Ayrshire, Scotland where both died in 1892 and 1909. Bridget's parents were Patrick McMillan and Bridget nee Smith. I have a reference to a Peter Murray (common name in my Murray folk) born at Drumgooland, Down in 1827 and parents names are given as Patrick and Margaret (NOT Catherine?) nee O'Hare.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Monday 14 August 17 16:43 BST (UK)
I know, this is an old thread, but I am now looking for Murrays from Slievenisky too.

I have a Hugh Murray who married Margaret King in Sept 1834 (Church record lists it as taking place in Drumgooland)

They went on to have a number of children - Catherine (b 1853) who married William Kelly (this is my GG Grand parents)
The siblings I have found are - Margaret, Ann, Hugh and Thomas (Birth place is given as Derryneil or Slievenisky)

If anyone has any information on who the siblings married or if they emigrated etc, or who Hugh Murray/Margaret Kings parents are I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: MURRAYs from Slievenisky / Clanvarahghan
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Monday 14 August 17 16:49 BST (UK)
And just to confuse things even more, I have another Murray connection, from the same area, so they are probably related somehow.

I have a Harry (Henry) Murray, married Agnes Doyle - I can't find a marriage certificate, but have found birth certs for the children (Patrick, Arthur, Martha, George, Francis and Bernard and my great granddad Richard Murray (b.1866 m 1902).

Any help with Harry's parents or siblings much appreciated