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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: baldy on Tuesday 09 November 04 04:07 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for some help/guidance about 1851 census.After spending countless hours tracing (old) family members
I have come across a query;in the census it shows a person (Clarence) Beattie living at Barrand 870 with family.
After "trying" to track him down I find his name was NOT Clarence but Ebenezer,also find that sister Jane was living at
Barrand 870 .Census states that she is son of William;I have been looking for a James,could this be the same person
Have been on to Scotslandpeople (GROS) site and there is NO James ever listed for that period of time (1848-1848)
But according to his father death certificate James was at his side when he died.
Could some "please" try to explain this situation to me
Thanks
Baldy
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Hiya,
The birth you are looking for pre-dates statutory registration. The OPR record may not have survived or he may not have been baptised. Not finding him on Scotlandspeople is not unusual pre-1855.
Do you have other census info e.g. 1841?
All the best,
Pam
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Good a Pam.
Thanks for the reply.
No I do not have any other info,I do not know where to find the 1841 census
I know the 1851,1881,1901 is available on the net
Baldy
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I have access to all the films for Dumfries at my local library. I went tonight and it will be a while before I get there again but if you let me know what look ups you want done and where I'll do them as soon as I can :)
Is it household 2/32 on teh 1851? It looks like they were in Troqueer in 1841 going by the births of the children I have access to that so I'll have a gander.
All the best,
Pam
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PS Please PM me if you think I've forgotten I have a bowl full of holes as a brain at the moment ;D
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Hiya Baldy,
My first trip to the library of the year and I found this...
OPR Film: 870/2 Kirkbean
1848
Ebenezer son lawful of William Beattie and Janet Callandeer born 17th baptized 21st January by the Rev Mr Grierson
I think the fact that the name in 1851 is in square brackets means they couldn't read it properly.
I had the Troqueer film out and found the family...
1841
Troqueer ED1 page 6
Martingirth
Janet Beattie 30 Y
James 7 Y
Isabella 6 Y
Mary 4 Y
Robert 2 Y
Janet 7m Y
(Y being born in county)
William isn't in the house as he is a ploughman I reckon he will be working away as it is a later census than later years.
Hope this helps,
Pam
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Hello Pam.
Thank you for that Information.
That was exactly what I was looking for about Ebenezer.
The actual fact that he was originally given the name as Clarence in some
census confirms that it was a "total" mistake.
Would it be possible for you to let me know when you next intend to visit the library
I may (if I could) have another lookup.
Kindest Regards
Baldy(au)
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Not sure when I will get there again but please feel free to request the look up - if it is a different family then start a new thread and I will put it in my note book.
I'm moving house at the end of this week so it may be a while or I may find myself passing the library and I can pop in. Can't promise though.
Pam
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Hi Pam.
It is for the same family;I am no desperate hurry for 'any'; information whatso ever.
Information required is on Isabella BEATTIE DOB 1835,am looking to see if and when
and to who she married.Parents were Thomas Beattie & Janet Callander.
I hope that all goes well for you in the house moving project.
Regards Baldy (au)
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If this is before 1855 I need to know where you think she was married because all the OPRs in Edinburgh library are on film. Happy to scroll through a known parish though.
Alternatively it should come up on Scotlandspeople and I could get the detail from the film.
Pam
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Hello Pam.
Thanks for that.We are only assuming here,but could be around 1853--1855
in Troqueer,(Tinwald) again this is pure speculation;my reason is ;she was
born in Troqueer Kirkcudbright.
We were led to believe that a marriage took place abt 1857 then again we have
no definate proof.
Again I thank you
Regards