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Title: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Walcha72 on Friday 13 October 06 04:34 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am not having much luck in tracking down some of my McCormicks from Campbeltown.

I have John McCormick (my great great grandfather).  So far I have not been able to find any birth or christening record of him.  I am not so concerned about that.  On his marriage certificate (1866) his parents are recorded as Brian McCormick and Ann McNeill (decd).  (My copy of this certificate is at home so I can't check his age).

On John's death certificate (1913) his parents are recorded as Bernard McCormick (decd) and Ann McNeill.  John's age is recorded as 70 (giving a birth year of around 1843).

On the 1891 and 1901 censuses John's age is consistent with a birth year of 1843. 

I have also found who I am 99% certain is John's sister - Rosina McCormick.  On her marriage certificate to Hector McNeill (Mc)Gill (1873), her parents are recorded as Brian McCormick (decd) and Catherine McNeill (decd).  Her age is 19 (giving a birth year of 1854).

On her death certificate (1917) her parents are Brian McCormick (decd) and Ann McNeill (decd).  Her age is 58 (giving a birth year of 1859).

So far I have only found Rosina (aka Rose) on the 1901 census. (Have been concentrating on other lines instead).  Her age there is 44 (birth year 1857).  No luck in finding her birth or christening.

John had two daughters named Rosina so it makes sense these two are brother and sister.  John and Rosina have consistent birthplaces of Campbeltown, Argyll.

As for their parents, apart from the marriage and death certificates mentioned above, the only possible mention I have found of them is an extracted marriage on the IGI of Bryan McCormig and Ann McNeill, 8 Dec 1838, Southend, Argyll.

I have not been able to find Brian or Bernard on any censuses.  Even varying the spelling of both given and surnames hasn't been much help.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks for your help.

Debbie
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: tootsiepie on Friday 13 October 06 06:00 BST (UK)
Hi,  Go to the FREECEN site,  click Campbeltown,  and 1841 census, and type in BRION MACCORMICK
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Walcha72 on Friday 13 October 06 06:05 BST (UK)
Thanks tootsiepie.

Still confused over the Ann/Catherine thing though.  Will have to see if I can find anything about the 1 year old Mary as well.
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: mtosh on Tuesday 03 February 09 14:17 GMT (UK)
interested in the mccormicks been tracing for a friend whose gran was elizabeth mccormick sister of alice ,rosina ,peter, great grand parents john  and wife mary glegg from arran
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Walcha72 on Tuesday 03 February 09 21:55 GMT (UK)
Hi mtosh,

That is my family!!  I am descended from another sister, Jean (or Jane).

The John McCormick mentioned at the beginning of this thread is the one who married Mary Clegg.

I would love to hear more from you as I have nothing on Elizabeth or her family, but have quite a bit on some of the others.  I have heaps on the Cleggs (who have spread to England, Canada and Australia).

Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Debbie
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: mtosh on Wednesday 04 February 09 12:46 GMT (UK)
you will have much more than i have for sure a short version  i have as the father of john mccormick as bernard mccormick or bryan mccormig who married ann mcneil on 8th dec 1838 at castle hill manse campbelltown i have them with two children at moment one being john and the other rosina.not followed up on rosina as yet.
john as you know maried mary glegg; i havent followed the gleg line as yet either , i have as their children: john brn 20/6/1874 ; rosina brn 10/9/1883 other children as elizabeth ,alice,peter.william.jane, helen, betty and mary how accurate that is im not too sure at the moment. alice married james mccrank and had at least two sons james and john and would appear to have stayed in campbelltown;  Rosina married hugh muir; i assume you will have most of that line, iv not got the most recent.  peter married an elizabeth mcintyre on 30/10/1897 in campbeltown he died on 17/10/1950
elizabeth married john dunnett on 12/04/1907 in govan she has changed her name to mccormack she died on 25th july 1933 their son john  mccormackdunett was born 16.12/1919 in brough caithness he married a jessie mckay and the had four children ian ,ishbel ,hugh ,and elizabeth . i have more details  of the dunnet connection but as yet not  itemised them. hope this is off interest to you . this a bit long winded way of doing things not sure if can send attachments
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Walcha72 on Wednesday 04 February 09 21:30 GMT (UK)
Hi mtosh,

This is of definite interest to me.

I'll send you a Personal Message with my email details.

Debbie
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: tinamccrank on Wednesday 08 December 10 21:24 GMT (UK)
hi Alice McCormick was my great great grandmother!!!   Interested in sharing some info with you!!!! 



"alice married james mccrank and had at least two sons james and john and would appear to have stayed in campbelltown"

plz get in touch
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Walcha72 on Thursday 09 December 10 03:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Tina,

I would love to hear more from you.

In order for me to send a personal message to you (including my email), you need to make at least 3 posts on Rootschat.

So, just make two more replies to this topic and I'll be able to contact you directly.

Looking forward to hearing from you again soon.

Debbie
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: tinamccrank on Thursday 09 December 10 08:11 GMT (UK)
No problem
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: tinamccrank on Thursday 09 December 10 08:13 GMT (UK)
I work in the registrars office so I'll go look out my family research when I get to work today
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: fairypool on Tuesday 21 December 10 11:48 GMT (UK)
Hello Tina,
I am the Granddaughter of Elizabeth McCormack and am called after her. She was Alice's sister. She married in Glasgow and following the births of my Uncle George (Dunnet) and Aunt Helen (Nellie Dunnet) my Grandfather (John Dunnet)and Granny moved back to his native Caithness where my father (John McCormack Dunnet) was born. My Aunt Nellie kept in touch with Alice up until her death. My older sister (now deceased) visited Alice once or twice when she was a student nurse in Glasgow. I have a letter from Alice to my parents thanking them for a Christmas gift and the Cambeltown address still has McCranks living there. I have not as yet done anything about this as its been a VERY busy past 3years one way or another. I have a fair bit of the family tree and would be happy to share it with you.
Elizabeth McCormack Dunnet  aka Elspeth! 
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: ADH on Tuesday 25 September 12 20:52 BST (UK)
Hellen McPhee McCormick (Mothers name Cleig) was my Grandmother who married my Grandfather Patrick Hamill in Campbeltown  28/11/1911.
According to my father she gave birth to many children but only four survived into adulthood. She died in childbirth.
Hope this is pof some help?
Alastair
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Walcha72 on Wednesday 26 September 12 03:40 BST (UK)
Hi Alastair,

I have sent you a PM.

Regards,

Debbie
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: ADH on Saturday 28 November 15 18:46 GMT (UK)
Hellen McPhee McCormick (Mothers name Cleig) was my Grandmother who married my Grandfather Patrick Hamill in Campbeltown  28/11/1911.

Does anyone know where the McPhee name came from??
Thanks  for your help :)
Alastair
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 28 November 15 19:34 GMT (UK)
Could McPhee be the female Cleig's mother's maiden name?

Annie
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: ADH on Sunday 29 November 15 07:54 GMT (UK)
Hello Annie,

Thanks for your response, much appreciated.
Her mother and her maternal grandmother don't have this name so I am thinking it must be on the fathers side or even further back. It is strange that she is the only one in her family with this name so I shall continue to look for it.
Appreciate your input.
Alastair
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Cath. on Sunday 07 August 16 16:19 BST (UK)
Hello Everyone,

John McCormick and Mary Cleig/Clegg were my Great Grandparents. My Grandfather was their son John.

I would be really interested in sharing information with you all!
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: ADH on Sunday 07 August 16 18:18 BST (UK)
Hello Cath,

I now have all the information relating to the McCormicks of days gone by and happy to share but its thanks to Debbie  Walcha72  who shared it with me - she did all the hard work.
A
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Cath. on Sunday 07 August 16 18:29 BST (UK)
Oh that would be great. I'd be grateful if you could forward it to me?
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: ADH on Monday 08 August 16 07:33 BST (UK)
Happy to do that Cath, a lot of information is outlined below in Debbies email trail. Where are you located and how much of the family do you know about? Suspect its best if you send me your email address on a personal message so I can send you what i have got.
A
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 08 August 16 09:17 BST (UK)
Cath,  try a post on this excellent website,    http://www.kintyreforum.com/

Bests,

Skoosh
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Cath. on Monday 08 August 16 13:45 BST (UK)
Yes, it's so interesting, and lovely to know I have relatives also looking into the family tree. Located in Ayrshire on the West coast of Scotland.
We have also gone as far back as Brian/Bernard McCormick/McCormaig who married Ann McNeill. We only have information on our direct lines, so have nothing on siblings apart from their names and year born worked out from censuses.

I shall send you message shortly

C
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: hdw on Sunday 16 April 17 19:09 BST (UK)
elizabeth married john dunnett on 12/04/1907 in govan she has changed her name to mccormack she died on 25th july 1933 their son john  mccormackdunett was born 16.12/1919 in brough caithness he married a jessie mckay and the had four children ian ,ishbel ,hugh ,and elizabeth . i have more details  of the dunnet connection but as yet not  itemised them. hope this is off interest to you . this a bit long winded way of doing things not sure if can send attachments

I had a distant relative in Edinburgh called James Stephenson who married a Mary Ann Dunnet from Caithness in 1876. Her parents James Dunnet, mason, and Ann Sinclair were married in 1849 at Thurso.

Harry
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: brookepartington on Sunday 15 July 18 16:36 BST (UK)
hello, my grandfathers name is Paul Partington and his real mother was Alice McCormick and we are trying to find more information on them if anyone can help me that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Abbeyb on Saturday 20 October 18 18:44 BST (UK)
Hi. I have been reading, with interest all the posts made on the McCormicks. My grandmother was Alice McCormick.
 I would love to hear from anyone about her and the rest of the family on her side. It's been a long time since your posts. I hope this may reach some of you.
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Cath. on Friday 11 June 21 14:30 BST (UK)
Hi Abbeyb

Have only seen your message now. Are you off Alice's children to John McCrank?

Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Abbeyb on Sunday 27 June 21 18:55 BST (UK)
Hi
Yes I am. My Mum was Alice, daughter of Alice and James. Sorry, I have been trying to reply for a while! I hope this works .
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 01 September 22 04:47 BST (UK)
my grandfathers name is Paul Partington and his real mother was Alice McCormick and we are trying to find more information on them if anyone can help
Hi Brooke,

Your info. is rather vague...

It would be an idea to post relevant details for your g/f i.e. where/when born (full address) & all details on mother e.g. her usual address?

Was he adopted/brought up by another family?

If your g/f is deceased you can post his 'real' birth name too.

Annie

Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 01 September 22 16:11 BST (UK)
Interesting site on MacCormicks Island, I landed on this many years ago, nice wee harbour,
John Paul Jones apparently landed on it for ship repairs. ;D

https://eileanmormaccormick.weebly.com

Bests,

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Mysterious McCormicks in Campbeltown
Post by: Sineadb89 on Friday 13 October 23 12:30 BST (UK)
Hi not entirely sure how this site works, but came across your ancestor Bryan McCormick.  Brian would be my great great uncle.  His Parents Sara McArdel, born 1795, and James McCormick, born 1795, are my direct ancestors, being my Great Great Great Grandparents.

Bryan was born in Crossmaglen Ireland in 1818 and died in Argyll Scotland in 1873.

Somewhere along the way here in Ireland at least, the name changed to McCormack and that was the surname of my maternal grandparents.  So in the 1901 Census the family here in Ireland went by McCormick, but by the 1911 Irish Census the surname was McCormack.

Would love to find out more about the ancestry.

Sinead