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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Monmouthshire => Topic started by: hourihane on Sunday 15 October 06 09:47 BST (UK)
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Hi In does anyone know please what book they are referring to in the text below .About the pedigree of Wynston of Trewyn .
(Part ii. 242, ped. of family
of Wynston of Trewyn mentioning Thomas Sitsyllt of Alltyrynys, 'A quo Cecil of Alltyrynys')
Seisyll, Seisyllt, Cecil
In Part iv. 98. Portskewet there is a Cycill Griffyth in the record
of tenants of the barony 1569; but the most important examples are
connected with the family of Alltyrynys: Part ii. 242, ped. of family
of Wynston of Trewyn mentioning Thomas Sitsyllt of Alltyrynys, 'A quo
Cecil of Alltyrynys'; and on p. 242 is the evidence for the belief
that the great Cecil families of England came from this source. P.
245 'The name of Cecil is not extinct in the county. More than one
labouring man can be found with this surname, and in the parish of
Welsh Newton near Monmouth, is a most respectable family of farmers
named Cecil, who assert their claim to be considered kinsfolk of the
noble family in England. [T.E. Morris p.108 gives a pedigree,
starting with 'Gilbert Winston . . . ', then four generations of
Sitsilt, leading to 'William Cecil, Baron of Burley . . .'. The
following information is added: 'Boswell, a writer on Armoury, states
that he had seen the names Sitsilt and Sitsylt "in documents in the
possession of the Right Honourable the Lord of Burghly, to whom in
blood the same belongeth, whose name being written Cecil at this day"
(1572), and he adds that the original home of the Cecils, "Alterynnis
remaineth near Abervanny".']
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I have a Y DNA connection to the Cecils. My earliest ancestors, late 1600's lived at Ganerew about 7 miles from Welsh Newton, later they moved to the Vowchurch area of Herefordshire (not far from Alt Yr Ynys).
We "Y" descended people (shared ancestor about 1300 AD) are trying to work out the Cecil origins and connections. Please get in touch if you have any connection. regards, John Howells
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Hi there,
My great grand-father was a Lord Robert Cecil who resided in Wimbledon, I only recently found this out whilst delving into family genealogy... Immensely interesting. I too would like to discover more about where the Cecil's originated from and I'm looking into it still. I'm going to check out the FTDNA Cecil project as well:)
I look forward to hearing from you.
Many thanks,
Emilia
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I connect to the Cecils of Lower Dyffryn Grosmont, who are almost certainly a branch of the Allt yr Ynys family, via a William Howell who married Mary Rowland Cecil at Skenfrith in 1816. From baptismal records of their children I know William was a hoopshaver but I know nothing more about his ancestry. His daughter Sarah married (1) John Lawrence a stonemason from Monmouth and (2) Thomas Meredith a tyler and plasterer from Garway. I wonder whether William Howell connects to your Howells family?
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If Emsii and Minnow are still interested in the Cecil DNA please contact me via PM or this forum.
cheers
Jack Gee
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HOURIHANE,
where did you get this quote?
cheers
Jack Gee